Coronavirus

[Virtual ghost]

Hungary has a take off over the last few days in daily new cases:


24, 73, 91, 132, 158, 292 ... ?

 

[ceecee]

Weirdly enough if you stab a hemophilic and they die, the cause of death is listed as murder and not hemophilia.

 

[anticlimatic]

People still care about this thing?

 

[Jaguar]

Not everyone lives in a toilet, some actually live in a city with humans.

 

[Jonny]

Not everyone lives in a toilet, some actually live in a city with humans.

I’d have thought that at least the 7k Americans who died from it over the last week (and their friends/families) would care...but maybe I’m showing too much compassion/human emotion.

Of course, if you choose to care about only what the media focuses on, maybe you’d be more concerned about the riots and civil unrest. Not everyone has the attention span or focus to think for themselves. The irony is that most of what’s going wrong in our country today is directly attributable to this virus, civil unrest included.

 

[FemMecha]

People still care about this thing?

Just a couple of weeks ago you were criticizing people in the Coronavirus Blues thread who didn't want COVID-19 positive people from Texas and Arizona coming into their state for medical help. You expressed the need for compassion to take care of our neighbors and working through this together. Now you don't care?

and I quote from Coronavirus Blues thread...

Don't be like that. We are in this together. Be proud that your state is helping people it isn't even directly responsible for. Nobody gets sick on purpose, and we have seen this thing spike at different times in different places. Networking care nationally to take care of hot spots should be something we can call get behind.

That's quite the switcherooziedoozle you got going on there.

 

[Jaguar]

He's a troll whose goal is forum unrest, what the hell do you expect? Were this a thread on ovarian cancer, he'd enter the thread and ask the women why they even cared about their ovaries.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Take a Free Course on COVID-19 From MIT

Beginning September 1 at 11:30 a.m. ET (8:30 a.m. PT), MIT is offering a course on “COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2 and the Pandemic.” The course’s lectures will be livestreamed every Tuesday and are free to the public. (Only enrolled students can ask questions, but everyone can watch.)
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Fauci will be leading one of them.

 

[Jaguar]

Most Americans see politics driving Covid-19 vaccine approval process

Seventy-eight percent of Americans worry the Covid-19 vaccine approval process is being driven more by politics than science, according to a new survey from STAT and the Harris Poll, a reflection of concern that the Trump administration may give the green light to a vaccine prematurely. The response was largely bipartisan, with 72% of Republicans and 82% of Democrats expressing such worries, according to the poll, which was conducted last week and surveyed 2,067 American adults.

The sentiment underscores rising speculation that President Trump may pressure the Food and Drug Administration to approve or authorize emergency use of at least one Covid-19 vaccine prior to the Nov. 3 election, but before testing has been fully completed.

 

[Jaguar]

In China's Xinjiang, forced medication accompanies lockdown

 

[FemMecha]

In China's Xinjiang, forced medication accompanies lockdown

Another thing this shows is that China is having a second wave of COVID-19. That suggests it is part of this virus' natural progression. The 1918 Pandemic had three waves the second being ten times worst than the first or third waves. I guess we will find out if China's second wave is worse or similar to the first.

 

[JAVO]

A recent study provided more confirmation on T cell immunity persisting after infection, and showing that persistent antibodies are not necessary for immunity. Also there's a mention about a study showing that this immunity could likely result from exposure to different types of coronaviruses which cause a common cold. (Other types of viruses also cause a cold.)

People who get coronavirus develop long-term immunity via T cells: study - Business Insider

What's more, clues gleaned from other coronaviruses, like SARS, suggest T cells' lifespan could be decades long.

 

[ceecee]

All Luck and No Virtue: Sweden's Coronavirus Response | Dissent Magazine

Sweden bet on both national character and herd immunity, hoping they would complement each other. Months later, the country has little testing and one of the highest rates of cases.

 

[Lexicon]

New Insights into How COVID-19 Causes Heart Damage

 

[The Cat]

 

[Red Herring]

There is a woman here in Germany who worked in a carehome for the elderly and people with special needs. She went to the anti-corona demonstration in Berlin (the one the Berlin police wanted to disallow because they expected people to violate hygiene measures because they had violated hygiene measures on previous occasion, then a court said the demonstration could take place because there was no way of proving beforehand if they would vilate hygiene rules and which the police then tried to dissolve when it did take place and they did violate hygiene measures and things did get out of control). When she returned back home she called in sick saying she couldn't come to work because she had the symptoms of a cold. They told her she'd have to get tested for SARS-CoV2 as she works in a fucking carehome for vulnerable people, just returned from a mass assembly with no hygiene measures and is showing symptoms. She refused. They fired her.

On the one hand it's a pity because there is a dire shortage of care workers, on the other hand I wouldn't want the safety and the wellbeing of my loved ones or myself to be in the hands of someone with so little regard for human life or common sense.

 

[Red Herring]

In other news:

US refuses to join international effort to develop Covid-19 vaccine

The US government has said that it will not participate in a global initiative to develop, manufacture and equitably distribute a vaccine for Covid-19 because the effort is co-led by the World Health Organization.

The Covid-19 Vaccines Global Access Facility (Covax) is a plan developed by the WHO, along with the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations and Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, and is meant to accelerate the development and testing of a vaccine and work toward distributing it equally. The WHO announced last month that more than 170 countries were in talks to participate in Covax.

*sigh*

I guess the "pan" in "pandemic" stands for "best resolved locally"

Asked to confirm a report in the Washington Post that the US will not be joining Covax, a White House spokesman, Judd Deere, said in a statement: “Under President Trump’s leadership, vaccine and therapeutic research, development, and trials have advanced at unprecedented speed to deliver groundbreaking, effective medicines driven by data and safety and not held back by government red tape.

I'll light a candle for you

 

[FemMecha]

COVID-19 analysis by supercomputer...

A Supercomputer'''s Covid-19 Analysis Yields a New Way to Understand the Virus | Elemental

 

[Vendrah]

What Experts Know About Covid-19 That They Didn'''t Know Then | Elemental

A vaccine is almost certain

Then: From the outset of the crisis, there’s been cautious optimism that a vaccine would eventually be developed, but veterans of vaccine creation have been careful to say it often takes years, and there was no guarantee one would ever be developed for Covid-19.

Now: The U.S. government has pledged billions of dollars toward quick development of a vaccine, and several teams around the globe have been working toward the goal for months.

Dozens of vaccine candidates are in various stages of testing by different companies and research groups. Optimism was recently boosted when three separate groups — in China, at Oxford University, and in the United States — announced successful early trials, each generating an immune response to the novel coronavirus and appearing to be safe. These candidate vaccines must go through larger human trials involving people beyond the healthy 18-to-55-year-olds typical of trials so far. And then they would need to be produced in great quantities — hundreds of millions of doses for the United States alone, and billions globally. Scaling up production, after any federal approval, is expected to take months.

What it means: “Absolutely, for sure,” a successful vaccine will be developed for Covid-19, says Barry Bloom, PhD, an immunologist and infectious disease expert at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. “And we will get more than one.” With each company able to ramp up production of its own vaccine separately, that would mean more total doses would be available sooner. How effective any of the vaccines will be remains to be seen — a vaccine needs to be just 50% effective to make it to market, Bloom says. The other big question is when, says Andrea Amalfitano, DO, dean of the College of Osteopathic Medicine at Michigan State University.

Expecting a vaccine being administered to the public by March 2021 “is not out of the realm of possibility,” Amalfitano says in a phone interview, but he adds that there is still no guarantee of a vaccine that soon.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Let's see some positivity here! Quit being a bummer with all the negativity!