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Over here they are expecting massive staff fallout in basically all industries due to omicron.

As for quarantine, the duration depends on the virus variant. If you are fully vaccinated and show no symptoms, you only have to quarantine for beta, gamma and omicron. The duration is either 10 days without a test or 5 days with a negative pcr test or 7 days with a negative antigen test.

Masks are a non-issue because they are compulsory nationwide anyway (actually all over the continent, as far as I know).

Which leads m to my initial reaction to the rules you posted:

HOW COME YOU GUYS STILL DON'T HAVE A NATIONAL MASK MANDATE???

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Here we are
World: +1 070 000
Plus there will be a few more hundred thousands before the end of the day.
Btw. this could be the worst day on the record for the US.
 

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With adding of some numbers the previous US record has fallen already on 24th.
However now there is a tie with new record and there are still some states to count. So the record will fall again today.


Edit: 10 seconds later: new record it is
 

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I never thought that I will say something like this but lately I got hooked up on Indian right wing news (on English). I mean it is interesting since you get out of the bubble of first world media. Plus I must say I like how straight forward this is in a number of global issues as the channel.


Therefore this makes a decent closing thought of 2021.



 

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Red states: The federal government doesn't have the consitutional authority to place vaccine mandates on private business!

Also red states: Biden isn't doing anything to help with our surging covid numbers!
I was using that article to illustrate why there is no national mask mandate but yeah...this too.
 

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Today the incoming numbers are visibly worse than yesterday. What means that this wasn't anomaly but just "the newest normal".
 

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Worldwide cases are spiking due to new year celebrations worldwide! Although in my country, it is still low... "Theoretically" (its not like this country do much COVID tests anyway...).
 

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After 2 years of dodging Rona, I contracted Omicron, it has been mild so far i still have a nagging cough. I was one week away from my booster time frame but I consider myself boosted now. I wont be getting any more vaccines or boosters at this time.
 

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I've been away from this thread for some time because life has been busy, but also because I (and my immediate family) had what was likely Delta in October. It was annoying enough that I found no joy in posting about it. :laugh: I missed about 2-3 scattered days of work even though I already work from home, mostly so that I could get some rest (sleeping about 12-16 hours per day). It was similar in impact to handful of severe influenza infections I've had, but it didn't come close to the viral pneumonia I had in my early 20's.

Anyway, I wanted to post this because I think it's a good summary of why we're quite possibly at a good point in the pandemic with the latest Omicron variant.



 

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Daily new cases are highest than ever on Worldmeter globally.


I hope the vaccines work well at least holding the deaths a bit.

If the virus actually keep mutating in ways to turn out to make useless most of our measures, then we may live with full hospitals and death and maybe another crisis on this whole decade, but I hope that doesn't happen.
 

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If it came from a lab, then it was designed to keep mutating and to maximize any effects of "long COVID" on the infected, even after the recovery from the so-called flu stage of infection. You'd think Trumpies, who, at the start of this thing, were more likely to spout the conspiracy theories suggesting COVID is human-made, would thus recognize that this is anything but another simple flu and approach it as a deadly, unpredictable contagion. But ya know.

This is likely far from over. Those who want it to end the most are among the people allowing it to thrive. But ya know.
 

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There is one theory with research that proposes that Omicron developed independently from the original Wuhan strain in the mice population in Africa. I know Stanford is also doing research that it developed in immunocompromised human populations in Africa, likely connected to the HIV epidemic there. I don't have any personal conclusions, but it is just interesting.

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Also, hospitalizations have broken previous records in the U.S., with much higher proportion than what happened in South Africa or the U.K. It is making me wonder if Omicron is slightly mutated here. Some propose that the U.S. has more comorbidities, which could be true, but then hospitalizations should have been higher throughout the pandemic.
 

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There is one theory with research that proposes that Omicron developed independently from the original Wuhan strain in the mice population in Africa. I know Stanford is also doing research that it developed in immunocompromised human populations in Africa, likely connected to the HIV epidemic there. I don't have any personal conclusions, but it is just interesting.

mice population theory

immunocompromized human population theory

Also, hospitalizations have broken previous records in the U.S., with much higher proportion than what happened in South Africa or the U.K. It is making me wonder if Omicron is slightly mutated here. Some propose that the U.S. has more comorbidities, which could be true, but then hospitalizations should have been higher throughout the pandemic.
It absolutely is true. The number of Americans unaware that they have comorbidities, is staggering. Ask anyone in any level of healthcare. The reason for that is that millions and millions have no way of getting any kind of healthcare in this country (on top of dealing with the reasons for the comorbidities in the first place). Do you think that these people are going to go for hospitalization? No they're going to die at home and save their family from being bankrupted by an ambulance ride or a single visit to the ER and there is no way to track this. I'm incredibly tired of the theories and the hypothesis about how COVID started. Who fucking cares?
 

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It absolutely is true. The number of Americans unaware that they have comorbidities, is staggering. Ask anyone in any level of healthcare. The reason for that is that millions and millions have no way of getting any kind of healthcare in this country (on top of dealing with the reasons for the comorbidities in the first place). Do you think that these people are going to go for hospitalization? No they're going to die at home and save their family from being bankrupted by an ambulance ride or a single visit to the ER and there is no way to track this. I'm incredibly tired of the theories and the hypothesis about how COVID started. Who fucking cares?
When I was a teen, I did played GTA IV and there was this line when you called an ambulance when you were dying:
"and make sure your credit card is ready!"
And I used to joke with my cousin:
"If they came by and there is no credit card with the person, are they going to just go away and let the person die on the street??"
I thought this was so insane that it was funny!!!! We used to both laugh at that.
Oh my, couldn't I imagine that it was no joke, it was real.

I even read at reddit/depression several people saying they tried to commit suicide due to debt and the hospital end the suicide and then gave them even more debt. On a sensible word, that would be a joke (a person commiting suicide by debt being "saved" by other people and have even more debt). But this reality is insane no doubt.

I live in a country where health care has both private and public service. This place has its own insanity, though, its worse than US in many aspects but not everything.
 
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This is a great article about the Stanford study linking Omicron to HIV. The article describes pragmatic reasons this understanding is important.

"“If omicron did arise from a patient with HIV, it represents a wake-up call to the world that we can’t forget about the HIV pandemic in the setting of the COVID-19 pandemic,” said Jonathon Li, an associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School... Li said that HIV patients are at high risk, and additional measures to keep them safe must be taken. Researchers agree that the next steps include addressing the global vaccine equity gap to deter the emergence of future variants and increasing accessibility to HIV testing and therapy. "

Full article

Stanford COVID-19 case suggests possible link between Omicron variant and HIV

 
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