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Z Buck McFate

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Isn't testing free? Insurance information is collected, but then isn't the government covering what insurance doesn't? (So, you can not give insurance info for test, and the government will cover it?) I haven't had a test done, but that's my understanding.

I'm pretty sure the current arrangement for home tests is that insurance will reimburse for something like eight a month (like, they aren't given a choice). Or someone can request several directly from the government?
 

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@Virtual ghost Aren't you in Croatia? What's the general opinion about that tennis player (from Serbia?) who can't play in some tournament because he refused vaccination? (I mean, the guy lied about testing positive and attended events without a mask days afterwards, and I think that alone should have consequences - but I'm wondering what kind of anti-vax presence you have there).
 

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Isn't testing free? Insurance information is collected, but then isn't the government covering what insurance doesn't? (So, you can not give insurance info for test, and the government will cover it?) I haven't had a test done, but that's my understanding.

I'm pretty sure the current arrangement for home tests is that insurance will reimburse for something like eight a month (like, they aren't given a choice). Or someone can request several directly from the government?
I received an EOB from my insurance company for the tests (antigen and PCR) I got right before Thanksgiving ($30 and $250). Reason for the full price charge: Out of network (lab) provider. :shrug:
 

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@Virtual ghost Aren't you in Croatia? What's the general opinion about that tennis player (from Serbia?) who can't play in some tournament because he refused vaccination? (I mean, the guy lied about testing positive and attended events without a mask days afterwards, and I think that alone should have consequences - but I'm wondering what kind of anti-vax presence you have there).
I'm pretty sure he was the one that proposed a pro tennis players union - but for men only.

Not VG, Novak Djokovic lol.
 

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@Virtual ghost Aren't you in Croatia? What's the general opinion about that tennis player (from Serbia?) who can't play in some tournament because he refused vaccination? (I mean, the guy lied about testing positive and attended events without a mask days afterwards, and I think that alone should have consequences - but I'm wondering what kind of anti-vax presence you have there).


I really don't care about the guy. For me all of this is just pointless spectacle in which you have nothing to see. Also if he broke some rules he should suffer the consequences.
But here the antivaxx agenda is very strong and only 53% got both doses (14% booster) . What means that death rare per capita is so bad that is even above Brazil at this point. However as you look further east it gets even worse in various numbers.
 

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https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/1073...twitter.com&utm_medium=social&t=1642596649203

So Gorsuch refuses to wear a mask even though it poses a serious threat to the life and health of Sotomayor?

Leaving aside for a moment what a dick move that is and how I still don't understand America's course in this pandemic... I wonder what working together will feel like for them over the next few years. How awkward will that be?! "Yeah, sorry about not giving enough of a fuck for your life to wear a mask. Need anything from the canteen?"
 

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https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/1073...twitter.com&utm_medium=social&t=1642596649203

So Gorsuch refuses to wear a mask even though it poses a serious threat to the life and health of Sotomayor?

Leaving aside for a moment what a dick move that is and how I still don't understand America's course in this pandemic... I wonder what working together will feel like for them over the next few years. How awkward will that be?! "Yeah, sorry about not giving enough of a fuck for your life to wear a mask. Need anything from the canteen?"
I will never understand the visceral response to the mask mandates, in our country it has been mandatory for the past 2 years (and still is)
 

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Para los que entienden el castellano y quieren un poco más de contexto, aca tienen el clip completo:

 

Z Buck McFate

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I really don't care about the guy. For me all of this is just pointless spectacle in which you have nothing to see. Also if he broke some rules he should suffer the consequences.
But here the antivaxx agenda is very strong and only 53% got both doses (14% booster) . What means that death rare per capita is so bad that is even above Brazil at this point. However as you look further east it gets even worse in various numbers.
This is what I'm wondering about, thanks (not so much the individual as how common his position is).

It's interesting to hear about different places being anti-vax. It helps me feel a bit less disgust for the pockets in the U.S. Or rather, it helps me realize the disgust is about other (albeit related) things. (I feel disgust for the shameless fear-mongerers, not those who are afraid - although it gets blurry when people are dying preventable deaths because hospitals are too full to take on more emergencies).
I'm pretty sure he was the one that proposed a pro tennis players union - but for men only.

Not VG, Novak Djokovic lol.
:sick2: Douches gonna douche.
 

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Good to know.

It still leaves a few questions though. I mean, the observable facts remain pretty much the same, they just claim they were unrelated and there are no hard feelings. That might well be the case. Doesn't change the fact Gorsuch is being callous (and setting a bad example)

This is what our constitutional court currently looks like:
Bundesverfassungsgericht.jpg
 

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Good to know.

It still leaves a few questions though. I mean, the observable facts remain pretty much the same, they just claim they were unrelated and there are no hard feelings. That might well be the case. Doesn't change the fact Gorsuch is being callous (and setting a bad example)

Exactly. ( :shrug: ) You'd think - knowing full well their fundamental capacity for "nonpartisan thinking" is currently under scrutiny (and rightly so) - he'd know the value/necessity of doing it for optics alone. Even if Sotomayor says she doesn't have a problem with it (which is maybe setting a bad example of her own), he's essentially hinting that he doesn't believe the CDC/Fauci, putting one foot in Q-land. That's a *really* bad look for SCOTUS.
 

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I don't agree with everything he says, but is it weird that COVID-19 jumps so many species? I thought most viruses were more contained genetically, but so far COVID-19 has infected African rodents, hamsters, white tailed deer, mink, a variety of zoo animals, and possibly more. Isn't that a lot of species jumping?

[video=youtube;v5Pa3abjxoA]

EDIT: He has made some inaccurate statements lately like the high number of U.S. hospital admissions is due to kick-backs from public insurance. It isn't true. I have that insurance and included my letter a few posts back. He is starting to go off in the wrong direction in some of his information. I do not think he understands what is happening in the U.S. right now.
 
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Interesting... here's a study which found that in lab conditions and using lab-grown cells, vaccine mRNA was able to integrate its genetic code permanently into cells.

Of course, this is only one study which was done under artificial conditions. More studies will have to be done before anyone knows if this happens in actual humans.

Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro.... We also show that BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in as fast as 6 h upon BNT162b2 exposure.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm
 
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