Coronavirus

[FemMecha]

Neurological Effects of COVID-19

 

[Red Memories]

[MENTION=37565]Maou[/MENTION] [MENTION=13112]Stigmata[/MENTION] I caught a "cold" in February that last all the way symptomatically in waves until the first week of April. I became aware mid-March that someone in my college building where my accounting class is tested positive for Covid-19 near the time I caught this "cold". I tested negative for antibodies but I've never had a cold last that long, give me ear aches for weeks on end, give me a full 24 hours of chest pain and tightness, and end with a 30 minute feeling like all my skin where I had had pain from it, was burning, and fully close with 4 days of the worst fatigue I've ever had in my life.

I am pretty fucking convinced I lived through it but I ain't gonna go lick a doorknob and find out.

 

[Stigmata]

[MENTION=37565]Maou[/MENTION] [MENTION=13112]Stigmata[/MENTION] I caught a "cold" in February that last all the way symptomatically in waves until the first week of April. I became aware mid-March that someone in my college building where my accounting class is tested positive for Covid-19 near the time I caught this "cold". I tested negative for antibodies but I've never had a cold last that long, give me ear aches for weeks on end, give me a full 24 hours of chest pain and tightness, and end with a 30 minute feeling like all my skin where I had had pain from it, was burning, and fully close with 4 days of the worst fatigue I've ever had in my life.

I am pretty fucking convinced I lived through it but I ain't gonna go lick a doorknob and find out.

Back in December we did have a wave of people getting sick here as well. Two of my coworkers were sick for almost the entire month of December (coughing, sneezing, fever, fatigue) it seemed. I think at the time everyone though it was just the flu going around, but I remember one of them going to the doctor and being given a zpack, and it not doing anything to help.

But yeah, I'd never felt fatigue like that. I was driving home from work and felt like I was going to pass out. I just came home and imemdiately crashed on the bed and slept for like 14 hours.

 

[Red Memories]

Back in December we did have a wave of people getting sick here as well. Two of my coworkers were sick for almost the entire month of December (coughing, sneezing, fever, fatigue) it seemed. I think at the time everyone though it was just the flu going around, but I remember one of them going to the doctor and being given a zpack, and it not doing anything to help.

But yeah, I'd never felt fatigue like that. I was driving home from work and felt like I was going to pass out. I just came home and imemdiately crashed on the bed and slept for like 14 hours.

relate. I would go outside and walk for 30 minutes and the rest of the day I would be unfunctional. literally never had that level of fatigue in my entire life.

Same with me, I sincerely thought it was a cold/flu when I got it since there were 0 cases in Idaho at that point supposedly.

glad you're okay.

 

[Peter Deadpan]

Meetups should be a lot easier after we all die.
Kumbaya.

 

[FemMecha]

This article describes on estimate that the number of confirmed tested cases of COVID-19 are 6% of the total cases.

Official COVID-19 Numbers Represent Just 6% of Total Infections, a New Analysis Suggests – Reason.com

Edit: If my arithmetic is correct, that would suggest that in my local state there would be one C19 case per 50 people.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Only +3 country wide today (the record low since the beginning). What is continuation of single digits in the number of new cases. Plus the first part of the country is claiming corona-free zone status (all known cases are closed). While few more should follow as the active know cases dip bellow 500 for the whole country (the death rate never really took off).


Therefore virus seems to be beatable with good organization. However truth to be told here there was really a lockdown. From what I heard on TV economy is about 70% down from April last year. But with closed borders we should fairly quickly bounce back for the most part since the pandemic will basically be solved problem inside our borders. Therefore form that perspective shock-therapy seems to be better approach than half-measures.

 

[Red Herring]

Only +3 country wide today (the record low since the beginning). What is continuation of single digits in the number of new cases. Plus the first part of the country is claiming corona-free zone status (all known cases are closed). While few more should follow as the active know cases dip bellow 500 for the whole country (the death rate never really took off).


Therefore virus seems to be beatable with good organization. However truth to be told here there was really a lockdown. From what I heard on TV economy is about 70% down from April last year. But with closed borders we should fairly quickly bounce back for the most part since the pandemic will basically be solved problem inside our borders. Therefore form that perspective shock-therapy seems to be better approach than half-measures.

You are a small country with 4 million inhabitants though. I am glad you guys seem to be through.

Since you asked about tourism, all signs point to the German government maintaining its worldwide travel warning during the summer. So even with borders reopening most people will likely spend their vacation within the country.

On the positive side, fewer tourists also mean a lower risk of someone reimporting the virus. Think of the desaster that in Ischgl that is in part to blame for this whole mess.

 

[Virtual ghost]

You are a small country with 4 million inhabitants though. I am glad you guys seem to be through.

Since you asked about tourism, all signs point to the German government maintaining its worldwide travel warning during the summer. So even with borders reopening most people will likely spend their vacation within the country.

On the positive side, fewer tourists also mean a lower risk of someone reimporting the virus. Think of the desaster that in Ischgl that is in part to blame for this whole mess.

As I explained the size of the country isn't that important here since everything starts with the patient(s) zero on your soil and from that it is all in how you handle it. Just because we have 4 million people that doesn't mean we couldn't have ended as Italy or even US in the terms of numbers. Population size just on itself only means that the "bowl" will get full faster.



However we were lucky, in the case that this happened in the Summer when 20% of the people in the country are foreign tourists from all over the world this would have been one completely different story. I mean the ministry of tourism openly said recently that we will only accept tourists from nearby countries that have good "virus situation" and that can be trusted with their data (EU basically). But we could get lucky and it wouldn't be a complete loss: all those Europeans that travel around the world in summer as adventure may decide to go somewhere but much closer this year, while our coast is very close to Central Europe (120 km from southern Austria, read: "no plane needed"), all cruise ships are no go zones these days, our EU diaspora will show up surely to some degree, we aren't negatively in the news every day as Spain or Italy, we don't have refugee problems or distance problems as Greece, we don't have Erdogan plus virus problem, our virus is retreating ..... our cards aren't bad at all when compared with "the competition". Therefore we are more likely to pick up potential tourists and due to country size we need less of them. So if central Europe that is our main traditional "target zone" for tourists continues like this with virus numbers there are good odds that the situation can be salvaged decently under the circumstances. Plus we have enough beaches for "social distancing", since our main offer are open spaces anyway.


Never underestimate my people when they set their eyes on the prize.

 

[Red Memories]

The issue in America is we have a very strong individualistic culture of people who do NOT like to be told what to do, how to live, etc. therefore when told to stay inside that's like telling people to rush outside.

 

[rav3n]

Coronavirus in nursing homes: More states pressured to name facilities

Under mounting public pressure to increase transparency, more states are now releasing information about the scourge of the coronavirus on nursing homes and long-term care facilities. The data paints a grim picture: more than 16,000 residents and staff have died, roughly a quarter of the nation’s overall deaths.

In Maryland, which released a list of facilities with positive cases for the first time this week, 97 residents are infected and 34 have died at the facility with the highest number of fatalities, Sagepoint Nursing and Rehabilitation. In New Jersey, where the virus has reached 86% of the state’s 575 long-term care facilities, outbreaks at two veterans’ homes have left 97 dead. In multiple states, including Kentucky, Colorado and Pennsylvania, more than half of the state’s fatalities are from nursing homes.

Two months after the first death from the virus in a U.S. nursing home, advocates and industry leaders say long-term care facilities still face a dire shortage of personal protective equipment and access to testing.

“More needs to be done. The number of deaths is appalling,” said Rhonda Richards, senior legislative representative at AARP. “We can’t overstate the gravity of this situation.”

 

[Virtual ghost]

The issue in America is we have a very strong individualistic culture of people who do NOT like to be told what to do, how to live, etc. therefore when told to stay inside that's like telling people to rush outside.

We know. At this point that is probably the first thing that is being associated with the country.

 

[Jaguar]

I'm digging this New Mexico chick Governor. She's so organized it turns my crank. Problem? Shut down the roads. Bam. Fuck you viral spread.

 

[rav3n]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/05/02/excess-deaths-during-covid-19/

Excess U.S. deaths hit estimated 37,100 in pandemic’s early days, far more than previously known​

The United States recorded an estimated 37,100 excess deaths as the novel coronavirus spread across the country in March and the first two weeks of April, nearly 13,500 more than are now attributed to covid-19 for that same period, according to an analysis of federal data conducted for The Washington Post by a research team led by the Yale School of Public Health.

The Yale team’s analysis suggests that the number of excess deaths accelerated as the pandemic took hold. There were 16,600 estimated excess deaths just in the week of April 5 to April 11, compared with 20,500 over the prior five weeks.

Though the team’s estimate of the impact early in the outbreak already paints a picture of unusually high mortality, the number is certain to grow as more deaths are reported to the federal government on a rolling basis.

 

[Jaguar]

When Is It Safe To Ease Social Distancing? Here's What One Model Says For Each State
Some States Shouldn't Ease Social Distancing Until At Least June, Modelers Say : Shots - Health News : NPR

 

[Jaguar]

HA!



A lawyer dressed as the Grim Reaper is haunting Florida beaches to protest their reopening - CNN

 

[anticlimatic]

COVID’s Other Casualties

The longer the suppression lasts, history shows, the worse such outcomes will be. A surge of unemployment in 1982 cut the life spans of Americans by a collective two to three million years, researchers found. During the last recession, from 2007-2009, the bleak job market helped spike suicide rates in the United States and Europe, claiming the lives of 10,000 more people than prior to the downturn. This time, such effects could be even deeper in the weeks, months and years ahead if, as many business and political leaders are warning, the economy crashes and unemployment skyrockets to historic levels.

Already, there are reports that isolation measures are triggering more domestic violence in some areas. Prolonged school closings are preventing special needs children from receiving treatment and could presage a rise in dropouts and delinquency. Public health centers will lose funding, causing a decline in their services and the health of their communities. A surge in unemployment to 20% – a forecast now common in Western economies – could cause an additional 20,000 suicides in Europe and the United States among those out of work or entering a near-empty job market.

 

[Virtual ghost]

COVID’s Other Casualties

Wrong perspective, as far as I can tell there wasn't Covid 19 pandemic in 1982. Second, those suicide numbers are something that the pandemic takes in the matter of days even with the lockdowns. The lockdown is there exactly because there are no conditions for the market at the moment and therefore it is better to trade just the market than the market and the people. The simple fact is that USA isn't culturally, legally and financially ready for something like this and as US citizen you will have to ask yourself why this is the case (and what can be done about it).

 

[Virtual ghost]

Russia is moving into daily 5 digit growth of cases zone. But the testing is also heavily going up and it is clearly above the rates of even many much socially developed countries. What indicates that the government is very determined to find all case as quickly as possible. (if the number can trusted)




Worldometer

 

[anticlimatic]

Wrong perspective, as far as I can tell there wasn't Covid 19 pandemic in 1982. Second, those suicide numbers are something that the pandemic takes in the matter of days even with the lockdowns. The lockdown is there exactly because there are no conditions for the market at the moment and therefore it is better to trade just the market than the market and the people. The simple fact is that USA isn't culturally, legally and financially ready for something like this and as US citizen you will have to ask yourself why this is the case (and what can be done about it).

I think COVID19 tunnel vision is the wrong perspective, and until I see any sign that people are actually weighing factors other than blindly and obediently supporting lock-downs I am honor bound to not relent in encouraging people to think more.