Coronavirus

[ceecee]

MSNBC and CNN cut away from Trump + admin after Dr. Fauchi ended speaking, and Trump began to air a propaganda video. GOOD, as they should! It's a crying shame it's taken so long for them to acknowledge this, but at least it does demonstrate that some major media outlets will draw a line in the sand. Hopefully, they will continue this trend and more solidly draw the line to eliminate Trump and his bullshit lies.

Disinformation is a problem, and people are starting to get it.

CNN, MSNBC Cut Away From Donald Trump’s Coronavirus Briefing – Deadline

No they won't. Trump = ratings = $$.

I haven't seen a single one of these mini Trump rallies. I don't see the point, I can read what the doctors and experts say in a million other places.

 

[SD45T-2]

To bring this thread back on track, this is a good prospective on what is being done with the dead, particularly in NYC.

IIRC there were places in the Rust Belt commandeering refrigerated trucks like 5 years ago as they were getting hit with the opioid crisis and running out of room for the bodies. So it didn't seem particularly shocking to me now.

New York City has a population density of about 27,000 per square mile with Manhattan being by far the most dense at 69,000. It seems like that would make it harder to stop the spread. The city of Los Angeles is only about 8,000 per square mile.

 

[ceecee]

IIRC there were places in the Rust Belt commandeering refrigerated trucks like 5 years ago as they were getting hit with the opioid crisis and running out of room for the bodies. So it didn't seem particularly shocking to me now.

New York City has a population density of about 27,000 per square mile with Manhattan being by far the most dense at 69,000. It seems like that would make it harder to stop the spread. The city of Los Angeles is only about 8,000 per square mile.

Hart Island has been used as for quarantine and a cemetery for a long long time in NYC. This isn't the first epidemic they've needed it for, it won't be the last. I remember they buried the first HIV deaths there because they thought the bodies would contaminate others. I'm also sure they showed it on NYC Aerial America on the Smithsonian channel - they've always been buried in trenches like this. I just find it odd this isn't more widely known.

 

[Jaguar]

No they won't.

They've already been doing it, but for some odd reason you'd rather pretend it isn't happening.

 

[anticlimatic]

The look on that reporter's face when Fauci told him that Trump shut down the economy the second he advised it was priceless.

I haven't seen a single one of these mini Trump rallies. I don't see the point

Seeing and hearing things live, direct from the source, with all the expression and oral emphasis absent written media, is a much better way to take in information if available. Of course 'not seeing the point' isn't why you tune out (trigger warning)

Trump

 

[Jonny]

 

[Jaguar]

Trump shut down the economy

More bullshit.

 

[Jonny]

More bullshit.

No doubt.

 

[á´…eparted]

The look on that reporter's face when Fauci told him that Trump shut down the economy the second he advised it was priceless.



Seeing and hearing things live, direct from the source, with all the expression and oral emphasis absent written media, is a much better way to take in information if available. Of course 'not seeing the point' isn't why you tune out (trigger warning)

Trump

Let's assume for a second that this is actually meaningful and true (HA!).

Now let's look at a sample of everything else. Taken from reddit, glad I saved this:

hoarded medical supplies: Jared Kushner slammed for saying the federal medical supply stockpile isn’t meant for states - MarketWatch

out bid states for supplies they desperately needed: Coronavirus: Trump outbid states on medical supplies - Business Insider

required governor's to compliment him to receive aid: https://theintercept.com/2020/03/28/exchange-aid-trump-wants-praise-governors-can-use-campaign-ads/

sent medical supplies to another country before any of his own people: Donald Trump boasts about sending $100m of coronavirus medical supplies to Italy despite shortages at US hospitals – The US Sun

downplayed the virus to look good: https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...0f5afb-4dda-48bf-abe1-b7d152d5138c_video.html

pushed untested and life threatening drugs: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ria-drug-for-covid-19-but-evidence-is-lacking

used briefings as rally's: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/trump-coronavirus-briefings-rallies/index.html

fired experienced and knowledgeable personnel for contradicting him: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/trump-fires-intelligence-community-inspector-general-164287

put inexperienced and idiotic people in positions that put the public's health at risk: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/01/jared-kushner-coronavirus-response-160553

put into positions of power criminals and sycophants who would put the public health at risk: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/supreme-court-wisconsin/609631/

actively stolen necessary supplies from states to boost unused federal supplies: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-fema-medical-supplies.html

gone golfing seven times during which he claimed to have known this would be a global pandemic: https://trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings

had ten political rallies with thousands attending in close proximity during when he claimed to have known this was a pandemic and the severity of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-election_Donald_Trump_rallies

called it the Wuhan/Chinese virus perpetuating stereotypes and harmful prejudices: https://www.aljazeera.com/programme...oronavirus-chinese-virus-200323102618665.html

threaten to cut the funding on the very organization trying to combat the virus on a global scale: https://www.npr.org/2020/04/08/8302...s-to-cut-funding-to-world-health-organization

criticizes and chastises reporters who ask him to say something to scared Americans: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ronavirus-question-attack-reporter-over-fears

blamed previous administrations for his own shortcomings: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ack-coronavirus-testing-blames-obama-n1157671

blamed democrats from occupying him in a impeachment of which he REFUSED TO PARTICIPATE IN: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/republicans-impeachment-distracted-trump-coronavirus.html

used the pandemic to suspend EPA environmental enforcement for corporations: https://www.theguardian.com/environ...es-pollute-without-penalty-during-coronavirus

used a stimulus package to award himself a $500 billion dollar unregulated slush fund: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/23/democrats-slush-fund-republican-rescue-package-143565

cut vital personnel and funding from the White House Security Council Pandemic Response team: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli.../coronavirus-trump-covid-19-pandemic-response

Safe to say, your comment is nothing more than misdirection. Dare I say, disinformation.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Why do you doubt CDC scientists?

they're too woke

 

[Jaguar]

The Covid-19 Tracker - STAT

 

[Maou]

Anyone recieve Trump bux this round?

 

[Red Memories]

Anyone recieve Trump bux this round?

not yet. it says most of the tax payers should have theirs by april 15th and most before May. We'll see.

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Saw in article saying in Australia, they're finding ivermectin, normally head lice treatment, slows the virus and causes elimination within 48 hours. now they are figuring out how to dose that to a human. Interesting though.

 

[ceecee]

The look on that reporter's face when Fauci told him that Trump shut down the economy the second he advised it was priceless.



Seeing and hearing things live, direct from the source, with all the expression and oral emphasis absent written media, is a much better way to take in information if available. Of course 'not seeing the point' isn't why you tune out (trigger warning)

Trump

Uh, Yeah. That's why I wrote - mini Trump rally.

 

[ceecee]

From your own linked study:

Due to the severity of SARS-CoV infection, the potential for rapid spread of the disease, and the absence of proven effective and safe in vivo inhibitors of the virus, it is important to identify drugs that can effectively be used to treat or prevent potential SARS-CoV infections.

We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.
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SARS-CoV had a 15% mortality rate. Medicine is all about weighing the risks against the potential benefits, though I'm not surprised this subtlety is lost on you. But let's not play coy here. If Trump hadn't run his mouth off and gotten shit for this, you wouldn't be talking about it.

COVID-19 Patients Given Unproven Drug In Texas Nursing Home In 'Disconcerting' Move | WKMS

Armstrong, who is a prominent GOP activist, called Republican Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick. He says Patrick reached out to Texas state Sen. Bryan Hughes, also a Republican, who knew someone on the board of the New Jersey-based company Amneal Pharmaceuticals. The company, which makes and distributes the drug, has donated more than a million tablets nationwide, including to the states of Texas and Louisiana.

Two days later, Armstrong had received more than enough medication to begin giving it to patients. He said he started by screening those he believed would benefit most and added more people each day. He monitored their blood oxygen saturation, temperatures and how well they were breathing.

He acknowledged that some families were not aware their relatives were put on the drug, saying that "for the most part," he consulted with each nursing home resident prior to giving them on the tablets.

While the "overwhelming majority of them are awake and alert and can actually have a conversation," Armstrong said some suffer from middle stages of dementia. In some cases, he did not discuss prescribing the tablets with anyone at all before doing so. He said it is common for physicians to prescribe new medications to patients without explicit consent from the patient or family members. "It's not required," he said.

It absolutely IS required, clinical trials have, especially for dementia patients or elderly, stringent consent. But oh, this wasn't a clinical trial, it was an "observational study". I'm sure that Josef Mengele or the doctors at Tuskegee felt the same way. Expect more of this from the GOP - criminals gonna criminal after all.

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[Peter Deadpan]

Anyone recieve Trump bux this round?

I just checked and mine is pending for deposit. Halle-fuckin-lujah.

 

[Stigmata]

Anyone recieve Trump bux this round?

Not yet. As of right now it's apparently Schrodinger's stimulus.

 

[Jonny]

Anyone recieve Trump bux this round?

Unfortunately I don’t quality for Pelosi pesos or Schumer shekels or Democrat dollars McConnell monies or Republican rubles or whatever we’re calling them today (never heard the term Trump bux before, but considering he doesn’t write legislation I find it an odd, laughable name). I am a little annoyed with the rise in Donnie debt though.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

I was thinking "socialist scratch" might be the best name for it.