Coronavirus

[ceecee]

We are making similar mistakes to the handling of the Spanish influenza of 1918-20

This virus will be with us for a long time

Let's see. 500 million were infected with the Spanish flu. Which didn't originate there but I doubt many Trump constituents know this or care to learn about it.

17 to 50 million dead. It lasted for 2 years. Many died from malnutrition, overcrowded medical camps and hospitals, and poor hygiene. ALL of which can happen with COVID. Especially when medical professionals with no PPE are infected en mass, watch the numbers rise. Trump's behavior towards this and states that have done away with maintaining their supplies almost guarantee it. We can be right back in 1918-1920 that quick.

Using those Spanish flu statistics, project the COVID numbers by half. 1 year, 250 million infected, 25 million dead. Those are pretty believable numbers. Personally I was thinking, when this started in the US - 6-9 months of stay at home measures, gloves and masks anytime one is outside.

 

[ceecee]

Trump has instilled a false sense of security in many of his constituents. This is unforgivable

Florida Senior Community Finally Embraces Social Distancing | Time

Yeah, there was all kinds of asinine Trump fan bravado coming out of these people about a week ago. But you can only warn people and try to give them information so much.

 

[Red Herring]

There seems to be a lot of he said she said right now about the reasons why, but it seems clear the EU is bulk buying medical equipment including ventilators. The UK, very much short on all of that, could have participated but didn't. The UK government says there was miscommunication. The EU says that is bullshit and the UK deliberately chose not to because they wanted to shop around on their own and "buy British". Specifically that means vacuum cleaner producer Dyson is looking into the possibility of producing ventilators. Yes, that's right, Dyson, you know, the company owned by Boris Johnson's friend the ver y loud and active Brexit supporter James Dyson.

 

[Mind Maverick]

Trump has instilled a false sense of security in many of his constituents. This is unforgivable

I'd still take Trump over Bolsonaro any day. People are comparing him to Trump but he's honestly worse...which is pretty hard to accomplish, but apparently it's possible.

From the article @ceecee linked
“This place is Republicanville and too many people believe what the president is saying, and they were out in the streets and out in the squares,” said Alan Stone, as he sat in one of The Villages’ ever-present golf carts outside a supermarket, waiting for his wife. “They don’t realize that they’re playing with death.”
I can't even take these people seriously. Can you really not think for yourself and recognize the dangers without being told by a president? Being republican has nothing to do with it. This is an issue of being mindless sheeple.

 

[Jaguar]

WASHINGTON (REUTERS) - President Trump said Saturday he was considering imposing a quarantine on New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Trump said he was mulling the quarantine, while at the same time walking back urging to quickly reopen the economy.



This guy, man.

Update:

The quarantine would be for “two weeks on New York, probably New Jersey, certain parts of Connecticut,” he said. It would “restrict travel, because they’re having problems down in Florida, a lot of New Yorkers going down, we don’t want that.”

We don't want that, Donnie. After all, you live in Florida. Jerk.

 

[Nicodemus]

WASHINGTON (REUTERS) - President Trump said Saturday he was considering imposing a quarantine on New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Trump said he was mulling the quarantine, while at the same time walking back urging to quickly reopen the economy.



This guy, man.

Update:

The quarantine would be for “two weeks on New York, probably New Jersey, certain parts of Connecticut,” he said. It would “restrict travel, because they’re having problems down in Florida, a lot of New Yorkers going down, we don’t want that.”

We don't want that, Donnie. After all, you live in Florida. Jerk.

Well, he needs to carry Florida. Hard to do for a Republican when the elderly are hospitalized or dead. Even he knows he has no chance of winning New York, plus people are being mean to him there...

 

[Jaguar]

Well, he needs to carry Florida. Hard to do for a Republican when the elderly are hospitalized or dead. Even he knows he has no chance of winning New York, plus people are being mean to him there...

It has something to do with this asshole who initially blew off the virus:
Florida governor announces mandatory 14-day self-quarantine for anyone traveling from Louisiana | TheHill

 

[ceecee]

I'd still take Trump over Bolsonaro any day. People are comparing him to Trump but he's honestly worse...which is pretty hard to accomplish, but apparently it's possible.

From the article @ceecee linked
“This place is Republicanville and too many people believe what the president is saying, and they were out in the streets and out in the squares,” said Alan Stone, as he sat in one of The Villages’ ever-present golf carts outside a supermarket, waiting for his wife. “They don’t realize that they’re playing with death.”
I can't even take these people seriously. Can you really not think for yourself and recognize the dangers without being told by a president? Being republican has nothing to do with it. This is an issue of being mindless sheeple.

Well, for lots of them, no. They can't. These are the deep state, fake news, TRUE believers. My parents are somewhat like this, many of their friends are exactly like this but they turn around and say - all politicians are the same, they're all criminals, they all lie. Ok fine so why aren't you attacking Trump and the GOP the same way? It's cult mentality, you can't burst that bubble. And many of them will end up dead.

 

[cascadeco]

Let's see. 500 million were infected with the Spanish flu. Which didn't originate there but I doubt many Trump constituents know this or care to learn about it.

17 to 50 million dead. It lasted for 2 years. Many died from malnutrition, overcrowded medical camps and hospitals, and poor hygiene. ALL of which can happen with COVID. Especially when medical professionals with no PPE are infected en mass, watch the numbers rise. Trump's behavior towards this and states that have done away with maintaining their supplies almost guarantee it. We can be right back in 1918-1920 that quick.

Using those Spanish flu statistics, project the COVID numbers by half. 1 year, 250 million infected, 25 million dead. Those are pretty believable numbers. Personally I was thinking, when this started in the US - 6-9 months of stay at home measures, gloves and masks anytime one is outside.

Trump is just disgusting in how he is 'handling' all of this. Pathetic.

Yeah, I wonder. As time goes on and we learn more about this, and perhaps see many waves of this (it is beginning to look like it'll be with all of in some form for a long while), I wonder how many iterations of 'stay at home', timeframe adjustments, or policy changes, and all of that, we will experience. I am particularly uncertain about how my own job will play out as time goes on and how my company will make decisions (sbux).

 

[Mind Maverick]

Orange County infant infected with coronavirus

This, on the other hand, is heartbreaking.

 

[Mind Maverick]

Opinion | At Walmart, the Coronavirus Makes It Feel Like Black Friday - The New York Times

Some of the people still having to work are in difficult situations. This isn't the worst I've read though, which is surprising because it's Walmart and they notoriously treat their employees like disposable batteries. I'm thankful that I have work from home self-employment that is thriving more than usual during these times...even though I'm not supposed to be doing it because I'm on medical leave from my other job.

 

[Mind Maverick]

Coronavirus: Missouri man charged with licking Walmart products

No words.

 

[Mind Maverick]

New Jersey man said he had coronavirus, coughed on Wegmans worker

charged with making terroristic threats, harassment, and obstruction after officials said he refused to identify himself or provide identification to township police for more than 40 minutes

 

[Virtual ghost]

US in the lead while also in clear first place when it comes to today's new cases.

Turkey is also starting to accelerate in numbers. What is geopolitically big since Turkey has wars on it's borders as well as over 3 million refugees that are a wildcard in a way. Especially if they start moving.

 

[Jaguar]

Hey man, "don't be a cutie pie."

 

[Mind Maverick]

Illinois reports the first known U.S. death of an infant with the coronavirus.

 

[Tellenbach]

New Cases Today:

New York: 6056 new cases
New Jersey: 2299 new cases
Massachusetts: 1017 new cases
Michigan: 993 new cases
Florida: 840 new cases
Louisiana: 569 new cases
Pennsylvania: 533 new cases
Texas: 379 new cases
Washington: 317 new cases
Tennessee: 309 new cases
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California: 189 new cases

Good job California. I'm seeing social distancing everywhere and the majority of people are wearing gloves. What's going on with Massachusetts and Michigan? Are they being "seeded" by New Yorkers? They're fast becoming hotspots.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Bill Gates in 2015

 

[anticlimatic]

New Cases Today: New York: 6056 new cases New Jersey: 2299 new cases Massachusetts: 1017 new cases Michigan: 993 new cases Florida: 840 new cases Louisiana: 569 new cases Pennsylvania: 533 new cases Texas: 379 new cases Washington: 317 new cases Tennessee: 309 new cases . . . California: 189 new cases Good job California. I'm seeing social distancing everywhere and the majority of people are wearing gloves. What's going on with Massachusetts and Michigan? Are they being "seeded" by New Yorkers? They're fast becoming hotspots.

New Yorkers are flooding into my small northern Michigan town to "escape" the virus. So probably. Out of all the people in the country, who are still pretty likely to do so, New Yorkers seem the most prone in the nation to only care about themselves.

 

[Mind Maverick]

New Yorkers are flooding into my small northern Michigan town to "escape" the virus. So probably. Out of all the people in the country, who are still pretty likely to do so, New Yorkers seem the most prone in the nation to only care about themselves.

Tbh, IME this is how people are in basically all of the populated cities.