Coronavirus

[Virtual ghost]

The shutdown is kind of nice at face value. Enjoying the peace and quiet and genera excuse not to go anywhere or do anything. It is making me feel bad for extroverts though. I've been imagining what it's like for them by picturing inverted conditions:

"All citizens are mandated to go to a large house party and stay there for several weeks to a month. If you get bored, take a crew of at least 20 out bar and club hopping, and maybe go sit in a large crowd somewhere to relax, just make sure you get back to the raging party eventually afterwards and stay there. Make sure you are around and listening to people at all times. Locking yourself in a private room is not allowed."

Yeah, I had exactly the same thought.
This is actually very good time to relax: read a book, spend some time with family at home, do some gardening in backyard, play video games whole evening .....

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

The shutdown is kind of nice at face value. Enjoying the peace and quiet and genera excuse not to go anywhere or do anything. It is making me feel bad for extroverts though. I've been imagining what it's like for them by picturing inverted conditions:

"All citizens are mandated to go to a large house party and stay there for several weeks to a month. If you get bored, take a crew of at least 20 out bar and club hopping, and maybe go sit in a large crowd somewhere to relax, just make sure you get back to the raging party eventually afterwards and stay there. Make sure you are around and listening to people at all times. Locking yourself in a private room is not allowed."

That would be a great idea for a science fiction story.

An idea I'd had for a story recently was a reverse virus genetically engineered to only kill people under 50, and how society would deal with it.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Our town closed down most public places. On their official website there's a list: schools, libraries, bars and restaurants, playgrounds, sports places, etc.... and casinos and brothels! (prostitution is legal)

Now I can't stop imagining how some cops will have to check in at the local brothel once in a while as part of their routine to make sure they have properly closed down.

Well, in less liberal countries cops check up on prostitutes all the time. Therefore I fail to see the big deal, this is what most cops globally do for a living.

 

[ceecee]

Yeah, I had exactly the same thought.
This is actually very good time to relax: read a book, spend some time with family at home, do some gardening in backyard, play video games whole evening .....

I've been adding more veg seedlings to my greenhouse and I built a rocket stove for the yard (to heat up water for the greenhouse at night). I do have work to do but it's pretty limited since all the hospitals and nursing homes I service can't be visited - only email, phone, video.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Yeah, I had exactly the same thought.
This is actually very good time to relax: read a book, spend some time with family at home, do some gardening in backyard, play video games whole evening .....

Sounds kind of like my family's normal modus operandi.

 

[Jaguar]

CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through March 7, 2020, there have been:

36,000,000 – 51,000,000
flu illnesses

17,000,000 – 24,000,000
flu medical visits

370,000 – 670,000
flu hospitalizations


22,000 – 55,000
flu deaths


2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates | CDC

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Not sure if American media are reporting on it, but it's a big news story here in Germany:


There is a company in Tübingen, Curevac, who are working on a vaccine together with the public taxpayer funded Robert Koch Institut. They are planning to make the vaccine available to the whole world as soon as they have it. Now the ministry of health and Curevac have both confirmed that Donald Trump offered them billions of Dollars to sell the vaccine to the United States on an exclusive basis, i.e. only for Americans. They refused the offer.

Do I have to explain the absolute assholeness of that move and how angry people are about this?

Small correction: It's the Paul Ehrlich Institut, not the Robert Koch Institut (the RKI is a public institute researching infectious deseases, the PEI is another public institute focussing on the development of vaccines)

1. Trump denied the available WHO coronavirus test kit. (Established as true and easily verifiable, they still haven't offered explanation).
2. The 12-week delay cost American lives. (Obviously).
3. After this delay, Oscar Health launches its testing center locator.
4. Oscar Health is a Kushner company, co-founded by Jared's brother. (Easily verifiable with Google).

I haven't seen other sources posting this yet (specifically about Oscar Health, to determine the extent to which they want to stick their fingers in the pie), but they posted that page themselves. This is in addition to the stories about Trump trying to buy exclusive rights to the German company getting close to finding a vaccine (which HAS been covered by lots of sources, and weirdly isn't getting much coverage here yet).

It's available to dismiss this as the stuff of conspiracies because certainly has that sensational stink to it - but every one of those 4 statements above is easily verifiable with Google search.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I've been adding more veg seedlings to my greenhouse and I built a rocket stove for the yard (to heat up water for the greenhouse at night). I do have work to do but it's pretty limited since all the hospitals and nursing homes I service can't be visited - only email, phone, video.

Yeap, it is time for some "rural atmosphere".
I am actually looking forward to clearing up the garden that the grandma left us. Since the place is pretty but it is full of "elements" that don't need to be there, even if some fruit still grows on the trees. Nobody had the time over the years so I kept the place with bare minimum of maintenance and now it is time to turn it into what it should be. I grew up eating bio food from that garden.

 

[Jonny]

For those of you interested, I'm starting to update my past chart to include "post-projection" cases and deaths. This will compare what is actually transpiring after the (overly simplistic) model was calibrated to what was projected to occur. What we will likely (hopefully) see, is that the actual post-projection cases will start to fall substantially below what the model predicts, because various mitigating factors such as isolation, increased screening, herd immunity, etc. will transpire (including, obviously, the hard limit on the total number of people actually living in the United States, lol).

 

[Jaguar]

Does Jared Kushner’s Brother Own a Company Involved in COVID-19 Testing?

 

[SearchingforPeace]

No, the White House Didn’t ‘Dissolve’ Its Pandemic Response Office | RealClearPolitics

Can't the media stop lying even for a pandemic?????

 

[SearchingforPeace]

If the choice is between destroying the world economy and saving a few million people who likely would have supported in the next 5 years anyway (and 5 million die every year on average), I would rather not end up in Mad Max Land.

A lot of small businesses will go under real quickly. And tip earners and entertainment and tourist businesses are going to die real quick.

Good thing we have internet and streaming services or there would already be riots and mass hysteria.

 

[Jaguar]

Keep flying, people. Great job.

 

[Stigmata]

It's kinda funny how when the idea of giving out free money comes from the right, the great concern about promoting government entitlement programs and all those who will mishandle the money, wasting it on drugs and alcohol are no longer a big concern.

 

[Jaguar]

Nearly seven million residents in seven counties must shelter in place to help stop the spread of coronavirus. Elsewhere in the Golden State, people are calling 911 to report coughers.

Let me guess, the people who called 911 on the coughers were the same people who thought the world was coming to an end with Y2K.

 

[Virtual ghost]

It's kinda funny how when the idea of giving out free money comes from the right, the great concern about promoting government entitlement programs and all those who will mishandle the money, wasting it on drugs and alcohol are no longer a big concern.

That is simply human nature, when shit really hits the fan everyone will start to be more concerned about very down to Earth survival. Therefore more abstract terms like money will suddenly be much more relative. This is basically because at the end of the day all money is indeed monopoly money. If it can't provide the basics it has no real value, what is generally getting more and more true as as the crisis gets bigger. This is why in my part of the world right wingers are basically socialists in the terms of money dynamic. Since these kinds of major crisis are coming relatively often and the whole system has to carry everyone through.

 

[Maou]

It's kinda funny how when the idea of giving out free money comes from the right, the great concern about promoting government entitlement programs and all those who will mishandle the money, wasting it on drugs and alcohol are no longer a big concern.

Pretty sure combating a global pandemic, and zero market crash, unprecedented levels of layoffs, is a pretty good reason to give out money.

 

[Lark]

Socialism: Not just awesome at fighting outbreaks.

Good the whole live long day.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Silly question, why can't the stock market just be frozen for a few weeks ? Because due to pandemics everyone will do bad decisions in a panic, what will only make things even worse. Therefore since basically everything is closing wouldn't it be logical to freeze all the numbers and continue when the virus clears.

 

[Maou]

Silly question, why can't the stock market just be frozen for a few weeks ? Because due to pandemics everyone will do bad decisions in a panic, what will only make things even worse. Therefore since basically everything is closing wouldn't it be logical to freeze all the numbers and continue when the virus clears.

Because its not the governments money? Imagine if your bank told you, you couldn't withdraw your money. Many boomers have their life savings in it, and they shouldn't be freaking out and selling to begin with.