Coronavirus

[FemMecha]

Just glad you are doing as well as can be expected. I still can't get over no toilet paper anywhere here. I don't need any but entirely empty areas at Walmart are wild...

The toilet paper is gone here too. It happened over a few hours this afternoon by 6:30pm. I stopped by the grocery store late and a stock boy said they had some backups, so I took a couple of those, and said I didn't care what brand. They were heavy duty, so I said these would work for my toilet paper fort because these rolls seem like they could take some shrapnel.

 

[Stigmata]

Just glad you are doing as well as can be expected. I still can't get over no toilet paper anywhere here. I don't need any but entirely empty areas at Walmart are wild.

Yeast packets and flour too. This tells me people are attempting to bake their own bread if/when they end up sequestered in the house.

Since all regular sports are over for the foreseeable future, I say bring on the e sports and my favorite ESPN show that's only barely about sports.

What will I do without my Dan Le Batard fix for that foreseeable future? WHERE IS JA? SOMEBODY FIND JA RULE SO I CAN MAKE SENSE OF ALL THIS!!!! Right now is typically around the point where I start trying to pysche myself up for the upcoming NBA playoffs....

Seriously, though, I've got enough water and Campbell's chunky soup to make a significant dent in the global world hunger crisis -- if the hypertension doesn't kill me first then the coronavirus will destroy what little remains.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I bought industrial mega pack with 70 rolls of toilet paper in it.


However I am in luck that here we didn't really get off from warzone mentality. Nobody really cares about the stock market, even the news. This is because we in some parts of the country we had up to 10 political systems since ww1. Therefore one more meltdown doesn't really make a difference, we will rebuild again if needed. After all government and foreign governments have domination in big local companies that have shares, so there is no need for drama. Also the government is expanding rules with which you can postpone paying your bills or whatever, what should give financial system flexibility. Borders and events are closing while healthcare is a human right designed to threat the wounded or treat people who lost their jobs or homes to the front line. In one bizarre way all of this is giving me nostalgic feelings about my childhood, for me this is actually "the normal world". After all in crisis my people usually outperform, since we aren't really made for normal.

 

[EcK]

I'm thinking airplanes. Politicians, high-level bureaucrats, and celebrities practically spend their lives jetting around the world on airplanes, and airplanes are enclosed spaces with recirculated air. A similar example: When retirement homes get an outbreak of Legionnaires' Disease, the source is almost always found to be in the ventilation system and recirculation of air. Cruise ships occasionally have similar problems with outbreaks of illness: Lots of passengers crowded together breathing the same recirculated air-conditioned air.

Anyway, in my opinion the use of aircraft and long flights to far-off destinations would be an easy explanation for why high-level officials and celebs seem to be catching the bug so much. Even if it's a private jet, you're breathing the same air as the crew and help, who may have picked it up in their own travels. Frankly, I myself wouldn't be doing any long intercontinental flights right about now.

If planes are the cause, then it's kind of a "tax on rich people." Politicians are going to have to start campaigning from home, via cameras and satellite links. No more jetting around the country and then shaking hands and kissing babies. (At least until aircraft redesign their air systems to include more fresh air exchange and/or sanitation filters.)

I agree that it's a 'multiplier' but as far as I know him and his wife were not jet setting but filming a movie on site. I think the major factor here is mass under-reporting of mild cases of the illness - which would be good news for the mortality rate but also make it impossible to 'stop' the pandemic. The only reason they know they have it is because they're like a billionaire etc. otherwise if the symptoms are mild they'd probably just have assumed it was a cold or the common flu and never get tested (and go on infecting other people) .

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Im going shopping tomorrow, and I am afraid of what I'll find. Should I be armed?

bartah town doesn't allow weapons, but I'd recommend keeping your holdout weapons if you head inside.

 

[Tennessee Jed]

I agree that it's a 'multiplier' but as far as I know him and his wife were not jet setting but filming a movie on site. I think the major factor here is mass under-reporting of mild cases of the illness - which would be good news for the mortality rate but also make it impossible to 'stop' the pandemic. The only reason they know they have it is because they're like a billionaire etc. otherwise if the symptoms are mild they'd probably just have assumed it was a cold or the common flu and never get tested (and go on infecting other people) .

I would like to believe your explanation: That the number of cases is vastly under-reported. Because that would indicate that the mortality rate from the disease is actually very low.

According to your theory, the disease is vastly under-reported and is actually quite wide-spread in Australia to the point that Hanks and his wife could pick it up locally at random in that country. Meantime, according to official statistics, Australia has only had something like a grand total of 3 coronavirus-related deaths in the entire continent thus far. That would indicate that the disease isn't very deadly at all: You're saying that lots of people have it in Australia, but almost no fatalities are occurring from it. That would be very good news.

In my previous post, I was just throwing out a pet theory of my own--that Hanks & wife probably picked it up on a flight either to Australia or on a flight within Australia. Flights may be a particular problem for older celebs, etc. because celebs use planes so frequently. But who knows. I don't believe that Hanks has indicated where or how they picked up the disease, and we're all just speculating about the nature and extent of the disease at this point. So I'm just guessing, like everyone else. Time will tell.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

What sort of ventilation systems do passenger trains use? I assume similar to airplanes?

Might see a huge, huge increase in car rentals and a sharp drop in plane and train ticket sales.

Also expecting the theme park industry to take a huge hit this year.

 

[Tina&Jane]

Things around me are getting very serious and a lot of places are closing like schools and libraries. My school district is closed starting today so I'll be out of work for at least the next week. There aren't a ton of cases where I live, but I think with all the uncertainty and fears of overwhelming the healthcare system they are are trying to be preventative. I think it's better to err on the side of caution, especially in schools where the virus has the potential to spread rapidly (at least among staff members, kids seem less susceptible), but I think criticism will come no matter the response. If the impact ends up being less than expected, there will be claims of it being sensationalized, if they didn't take action and shit really hits the fan, people will criticize and say enough wasn't done.

 

[Tennessee Jed]

What sort of ventilation systems do passenger trains use? I assume similar to airplanes?

Might see a huge, huge increase in car rentals and a sharp drop in plane and train ticket sales.

No, trains aren't nearly as enclosed as planes. Planes have to be enclosed and airtight because they are pressurized at high altitudes. Trains aren't designed to be airtight. Also, trains open their doors at every stop, which would result in a big fresh air exchange in every car.

Also expecting the theme park industry to take a huge hit this year.

Yep. Entertainment industry in general is going to take a big hit. Anything that involves crowds and audiences is going to hurt: Movie theaters, broadway, sports venues, musical venues, even bars and restaurants... Hollywood is going to have to cancel those self-congratulatory awards ceremonies of theirs. Even film shoots, which involve lots of traveling and people working close together. Hollywood is said to be terrified at what's coming. The only entertainment stock on the stock market still doing well is Netflix: The stock markets anticipate that sitting at home and streaming is about all people are going to be doing for a while, entertainment-wise.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

I agree that it's a 'multiplier' but as far as I know him and his wife were not jet setting but filming a movie on site. I think the major factor here is mass under-reporting of mild cases of the illness - which would be good news for the mortality rate but also make it impossible to 'stop' the pandemic. The only reason they know they have it is because they're like a billionaire etc. otherwise if the symptoms are mild they'd probably just have assumed it was a cold or the common flu and never get tested (and go on infecting other people) .

There's a good chance - in spite of wealth/fame - they only know because they were in a country doing more testing, that they likely would not have been tested here in the U.S.. It seems like analysis across the board (with the exception 45's Twitter feed, which can't congratulate 45 enough for the amazing job he's doing) suggests we really dropped the ball by not immediately doing more extensive testing.

PolitiFact: Would Tom Hanks have qualified for a coronavirus test in the United States?

 

[Maou]

What sort of ventilation systems do passenger trains use? I assume similar to airplanes?

Might see a huge, huge increase in car rentals and a sharp drop in plane and train ticket sales.

Also expecting the theme park industry to take a huge hit this year.

I work in car retail/rental, its dead here too. Everyone is cancelling their appointments.

 

[Tennessee Jed]

I work in car retail/rental, its dead here too. Everyone is cancelling their appointments.

Yeah, basically people have just stopped traveling altogether. At least, that seems to be the case for white-collar business travel and entertainment/personal/recreational travel.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

I work in car retail/rental, its dead here too. Everyone is cancelling their appointments.

Eventually people like sales personnel are going to have to resume travelling. At that point, many who normally fly might switch to driving.

 

[Red Herring]

Kindergarden and daycare are closed for 5 weeks starting tuesday. I work from home anyway and my SO, as a teacher, will be out of work the entire time (hopefully paid - he's on a short term substitute teacher contract - or we'll soon be seriously broke). Now how do we keep the kids busy?

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Kindergarden and daycare are closed for 5 weeks starting tuesday. I work from home anyway and my SO, as a teacher, will be out of work the entire time (hopefully paid - he's on a short term substitute teacher contract - or we'll soon be seriously broke). Now how do we keep the kids busy?

books, arts and crafts

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

This crisis has helped me confirm that yes, I am sp first.

 

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[Virtual ghost]

This crisis has helped me confirm that yes, I am sp first.

That is why by the book crisis doesn't count. Now everyone is a Sp dom.
By that logic I can say that "tonight's sex confirmed to me that I am Sx dom", what is simply the the wrong way to think about this.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

That is why by the book crisis doesn't count. Now everyone is a Sp dom.
By that logic I can say that "tonight's sex confirmed to me that I am Sx dom", what is simply the the wrong way to think about this.

Really? Because no one around me at work seems to be taking this seriously. A bunch of people actually had a pot luck today, all gathered together in a small, enclosed room. This right after one of our VPs had sent out a memo about social distancing.

I think most of them are so first.

 

[FemMecha]

This crisis has helped me confirm that yes, I am sp first.

I definitely have some of that sp going on, but didn't manage to make it to the store before the toilet paper was cleared out.

^This would be the sx first approach to this crisis.