Coronavirus

[Siúil a Rúin]

Wow that is exasperating. Pelosi is costing the Democrats a lot of support because she does embody the cricitisms and cynicism against the party. What's the point of getting a Democrat president in if you don't help the populace? Isn't that the whole point. That abstract power game playing at the cost of lives and well being of citizens is beyond disguising.


Watching that video all I could think is how I feel sorry for Americans because our government is so mean to us. We're bullied by our leaders. They are literally stealing our lunch money and shoving us into lockers (i.e leaving us locked out in the cold). It feels like a cruel prank.
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[Siúil a Rúin]

Also if vitamin D deficiency increases COVID-19 risk, then what does lack of adequate food and starvation do for it?
Devastating

Its a stimulus package to stimulate Covid-19 and provide it with more vulnerable bodies to consume. The virus thanks you, Pelosi.

 

[ceecee]

Wow that is exasperating. Pelosi is costing the Democrats a lot of support because she does embody the cricitisms and cynicism against the party. What's the point of getting a Democrat president in if you don't help the populace? Isn't that the whole point. That abstract power game playing at the cost of lives and well being of citizens is beyond disguising.


Watching that video all I could think is how I feel sorry for Americans because our government is so mean to us. We're bullied by our leaders. They are literally stealing our lunch money and shoving us into lockers (i.e leaving us locked out in the cold). It feels like a cruel prank.
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Dunno man, I voted for the person that was the polar opposite of all these fucking soulless husks, that actually cares about the American people and all I heard was - HoWyOuGoNnApAyfOrIt??!!! Oh I get that the Dem establishment nuked Bernie but he isn't the only politician that wants to put everyone but the corporations and the wealthy first. There are others at every level of government fighting to do just that. But all I hear is SOCIALISM!!! when most people have never cracked a book on the subject or listen to anything but the corporate media (spoiler alert: all corporate media is right wing) fill their head with stupid on the subject.

Government has one job - to serve the people it governs. Either you hold politicians to fulfilling that job or you don't. But if people keep electing billionaires and corporate stooges to government - they're going to abuse everyone for their own gain and and the rubes that support them.

Watch this GA senate race. Kelly Loeffler's husband is the CHAIR OF THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE!! Why is she allowed in government at all? She bought her seat. This election is an absolute no brainer for anyone that has ever bitched about money in politics. But she may very well be elected because they have convinced people all politicians are this corrupt and her response to any question is - socialism and lies.

These people, GOP and Dem are utterly certain of one thing - that they remain in power and they are entitled to everything that power allows them. They are 100% entitled to be where they are.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Here we would almost surely have a revolution for this kind of stuff. Since in the best case scenario this is not doing your job and in the worst it is simply a treason. Because when shit really hits the government has to be there, period.


Here you have a healthcare on "human right" foundations, you have large stimulus for vulnerable companies of all sizes and the unemployment seem to be flat all this time, closed stuff due to the pandemic will get some kind of a damage compensation, there is a payed sick leave (covid or not), evictions were frozen and I think they still are, you have college/school payed by the government so you are calm is this regard for this year, ... etc. However even with all of that people are still mostly fairly grumpy due to the whole situation. Therefore you are free to imagine what would be the reaction to this kind of politician(s) ... snap elections in the best case scenario.

 

[Red Memories]

Dr. Fauci says he takes vitamin D and C supplements and that they can lessen 'your susceptibility to infection'

I used to kinda eh at the whole vitamin c thing but I started doing more vitamin c during the cold/flu season and saw a reduction in getting sick.

but then I also notice a reduction in me being sick because I have been more isolated and I obsessively sanitize my hands now. XD

 

[Virtual ghost]

Globally days with 500+ thousand new registered new cases are evidently a new normal.

 

[ceecee]

I used to kinda eh at the whole vitamin c thing but I started doing more vitamin c during the cold/flu season and saw a reduction in getting sick.

but then I also notice a reduction in me being sick because I have been more isolated and I obsessively sanitize my hands now. XD

My dr. told me to take Vitamin D2 like 10 years ago but she told me to be careful with dosing and that appears to be a real problem. I'm also not dark skinned and I eat and drink dairy so I have less of an issue and I take 800 UI/day

Taking too much vitamin D can cloud its benefits and create health risks - Harvard Health

I also take the B complex, Vitamin C with Zinc and a probiotic. I think these all help but I made sure to talk to my dr before I added any of them.

 

[Red Memories]

My dr. told me to take Vitamin D2 like 10 years ago but she told me to be careful with dosing and that appears to be a real problem. I'm also not dark skinned and I eat and drink dairy so I have less of an issue and I take 800 UI/day

Taking too much vitamin D can cloud its benefits and create health risks - Harvard Health

I also take the B complex, Vitamin C with Zinc and a probiotic. I think these all help but I made sure to talk to my dr before I added any of them.

I usually end up taking iron supplements because I guess chicken itself doesn't have a lot of iron and sometimes I actually get iron deficient. x.x but taking iron is bleh. it really messes with your gut when you take it supplementally. Probiotics are for stomach health aren't they? I wondered if they'd help my stomach that...has a tendency to be a bit touchy.

bleh. I should probably see a doctor more often.

 

[ceecee]

A Doctor Went to His Own Employer for a COVID-19 Antibody Test. It Cost $10,984. — ProPublica

Until there are enforced limit placed on what can be charged, by federal legislation, this shit will continue forever. What is amazing is an insurance company paid $10,984 for an antibodies encounter and never asked a single question when they regular deny payment for anything, arbitrarily, forcing people to appeal.

 

[Red Memories]

A Doctor Went to His Own Employer for a COVID-19 Antibody Test. It Cost $10,984. — ProPublica

Until there are enforced limit placed on what can be charged, by federal legislation, this shit will continue forever. What is amazing is an insurance company paid $10,984 for an antibodies encounter and never asked a single question when they regular deny payment for anything, arbitrarily, forcing people to appeal.

yeah when my brother took the antibody test they told him it'd be covered but he ended up having to pay $150 for it. which thankfully isn't THIS but...he wasn't prepared for the bill.

 

[JAVO]

Vaccine Caution

A relative who is a nurse practitioner told me that she recommends that people who are prone to allergic reactions only take the vaccine in a facility with full resuscitation capability, and to stay there for a while afterwards.


People With Severe Allergies Shouldn't Get Covid-19 Vaccine, Says U.K. Regulator After Reactions

Two of the first people vaccinated in the U.K. on Tuesday with the Pfizer Inc.-BioNTech SE shot responded adversely to the injection, the country’s National Health Service said, prompting the regulator to issue new guidance warning those with a history of significant allergic reactions against having the inoculation.

“Both are recovering well,” said Professor Stephen Powis, national medical director for the NHS.

The two people are NHS workers, part of the first tranche to receive the vaccine in line with front-line staff having initial access. Each of them carried an adrenaline auto-injector to deal with their allergies.

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The agency said that the vaccination had triggered an anaphylactoid reaction in the two people shortly after they received the vaccine. Such reactions are triggered sometimes by drugs such as aspirin, certain anti-inflammatory drugs and opiates.

“As is common with new vaccines, the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination,” Prof. Powis said.

 

[JAVO]

Gallup Poll: Americans’ Mental Health Hits 20-Year Low Ahead of Renewed Lockdowns - Foundation for Economic Education

...a California hospital doctor told local news in May that during lockdown he witnessed “a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks."

The article above presents some pre-COVID research:

How Social Isolation Is Killing Us - The New York Times

A wave of new research suggests social separation is bad for us. Individuals with less social connection have disrupted sleep patterns, altered immune systems, more inflammation and higher levels of stress hormones. One recent study found that isolation increases the risk of heart disease by 29 percent and stroke by 32 percent.

Another analysis that pooled data from 70 studies and 3.4 million people found that socially isolated individuals had a 30 percent higher risk of dying in the next seven years, and that this effect was largest in middle age.

Loneliness can accelerate cognitive decline in older adults, and isolated individuals are twice as likely to die prematurely as those with more robust social interactions. These effects start early: Socially isolated children have significantly poorer health 20 years later, even after controlling for other factors. All told, loneliness is as important a risk factor for early death as obesity and smoking.

 

[The Cat]

Gallup Poll: Americans’ Mental Health Hits 20-Year Low Ahead of Renewed Lockdowns - Foundation for Economic Education




The article above presents some pre-COVID research:

How Social Isolation Is Killing Us - The New York Times

Funny to think I've been severely socially isolated most of my life, never really banked on that being like drilling for the new world order of things. wild. Good luck everyone. -_-

 

[ceecee]

Funny to think I've been severely socially isolated most of my life, never really banked on that being like drilling for the new world order of things. wild. Good luck everyone. -_-

I think it's amazing that all this about isolation and nothing about, I dunno..... being a month from being homeless, businesses obliterated while plutes plute, no way to get healthcare and starving to death with no help and no hope from anywhere. It's like none of that matters as long as people can go to fucking Applebee's and the movies but it is the goddamn NY Times after all.

 

[The Cat]

I think it's amazing that all this about isolation and nothing about, I dunno..... being a month from being homeless, businesses obliterated while plutes plute, no way to get healthcare and starving to death with no help and no hope from anywhere. It's like none of that matters as long as people can go to fucking Applebee's and the movies but it is the goddamn NY Times after all.

Their readers probably still believe they're going to get anything but screwed with the new stimulus. It's maddening. People are dying and being preyed upon by the system, and all they seem to care about is their access to the distractions.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

I think it's amazing that all this about isolation and nothing about, I dunno..... being a month from being homeless, businesses obliterated while plutes plute, no way to get healthcare and starving to death with no help and no hope from anywhere. It's like none of that matters as long as people can go to fucking Applebee's and the movies but it is the goddamn NY Times after all.

The piece about the Gallup poll mentioned it in passing:

It’s certainly true that we can’t solely attribute the burgeoning mental health crisis to the lockdowns. But there’s no denying the intuitive and demonstrable fact that confining people to their homes and stripping away their livelihoods has driven the spikes in suicide and depression
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But yeah, it's mostly glossed over and the focus is on isolation. (The NYT piece is from before Trump even got elected).

What I keep thinking, every time I see people bringing up the lockdown supposedly spiking suicides and driving mental health off the side of a cliff, is that the most mental health distress incurred in my own social sphere has been mostly related to the collection of absolute shit stain (alleged) human beings in the highest offices of government getting away with things we never dreamed imaginable, our faith in human nature consequently plummeting faster and further than seemed possible, and fighting the despondency that surfaces with every day's brand new political fresh Hell.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Meanwhile, NYT just reported that we broke another record in daily covid deaths today, crossing the 3k mark.

ETA, and NPR: U.S. Hits Highest One-Day Death Toll From Coronavirus With 3,054

 

[Jaguar]

How not hanging out in a bar getting drunk or picking up whores during a pandemic is making us suicidal.

Source: Moron Magazine pp. 3-6.

 

[Virtual ghost]

The piece about the Gallup poll mentioned it in passing:

It’s certainly true that we can’t solely attribute the burgeoning mental health crisis to the lockdowns. But there’s no denying the intuitive and demonstrable fact that confining people to their homes and stripping away their livelihoods has driven the spikes in suicide and depression
​

But yeah, it's mostly glossed over and the focus is on isolation. (The NYT piece is from before Trump even got elected).

What I keep thinking, every time I see people bringing up the lockdown supposedly spiking suicides and driving mental health off the side of a cliff, is that the most mental health distress incurred in my own social sphere has been mostly related to the collection of absolute shit stain (alleged) human beings in the highest offices of government getting away with things we never dreamed imaginable, our faith in human nature consequently plummeting faster and further than seemed possible, and fighting the despondency that surfaces with every day's brand new political fresh Hell.

To be honest none of that is the real problem in my book. The real problem is insanity of the whole circle on top. In other words the problem is that when a state is doing a lockdown the people don't get money from the government to survive and they don't get the legal right to stop paying their various obligations. Therefore when you do the lockdown right you just get people staying at home watching TV, making Christmas cakes and playing with their kids. What btw makes sure that lockdown delivers since people indeed stay away in mass. I mean this is how the sane countries are doing it.


For example take a look at unemployment trends in US and Germany, that is a good example of stable country. Plus I will add randomly Romania as an example of the country that isn't too advanced but still manages to do the same thing. I mean the more flat this curve is the less drama there will be, since the system is absorbing the shock. What calms people down even if they aren't directly in the mess themselves.



US

Germany

Romania



Plus it really helps knowing that COVID treatment is a human right and that all tax money in the country can be used for curing your family.
Therefore what you guys over the pond are doing is simply insane in my book.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

I think the pandemic is also revealing a lot of dysfunction that was already in place but covered up by routine. I find an extreme rigidity in American culture - particularly among the upper middle class I've known. I think there is an illusion of control this pandemic has threatened.


Job and income loss is a serious issue for mental health, but I think spending more time alone or with dysfunctional and abusive people causes existing issues to escalate. We see a lot of bad behavior expressed outwardly from tantrums in stores over masks to riots, imagine what goes on privately. I see the pandemic revealing extreme dysfunction that has been the norm for a long time.