Coronavirus

[Virtual ghost]

India +62 100, new daily record.

 

[Mind Maverick]

Chicago Public Schools Reverse Course, Plan to Start Year With Full Remote Learning | Education News | US News
"As educators and dedicated education professionals, we all want students to be in school, but at this time, the Chicago Department of Public Health (CDPH) believes that current COVID-19 transmission trends would not allow us to reopen schools in a safe and responsible manner given the sheer number of people we serve every day," Jackson and McDade said.

Finally, at least one area in the USA doing something using common sense...should've been obvious since the beginning not to reopen using a hybrid model as they did initially though...

 

[ceecee]

US State Department lifts global 'Do Not Travel' advisory - CNNPolitics

lol except that the US is banned from travel to most countries, by most countries. More gibberish.

 

[Coriolis]

Ohio's republican governor recently tested positive for COVID-19. This response from the Ohio democrats is what we need to see more of:

The Ohio Democratic Party said it is saddened to hear about DeWine's positive coronavirus test result and offered support for the governor.
"We know how hard he's been working to keep Ohioans safe, and this is just one more reminder that this virus can impact everyone," the party's chairman David Pepper said in a statement. "As fellow Ohioans, we stand with and support our governor and his family at this time."

 

[Jaguar]

DeWine's second test came up negative. These tests suck.

 

[Burning Paradigm]

US State Department lifts global 'Do Not Travel' advisory - CNNPolitics

lol except that the US is banned from travel to most countries, by most countries. More gibberish.

Why build a wall when the wall can be built around you?

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

A guy worked at Walmart for 40 years as a cashier and continued to work there wearing a mask through covid. He's now in the hospital with covid. His brother is saying this happened because a walmart shopper didn't wear a mask. I feel like these masks are giving people a false sense of security. There should be more emphasis on keeping people who are elderly and unwell at home. Instead it's like, "Here's a mask. That'll protect you if ever one wears one. Now get to work."

 

[FemMecha]

A guy worked at Walmart for 40 years as a cashier and continued to work there wearing a mask through covid. He's now in the hospital with covid. His brother is saying this happened because a walmart shopper didn't wear a mask. I feel like these masks are giving people a false sense of security. There should be more emphasis on keeping people who are elderly and unwell at home. Instead it's like, "Here's a mask. That'll protect you if ever one wears one. Now get to work."

I agree and wonder why it is so difficult for people to understand wearing masks. An article I posted several pages back by an epidemiologist had a sentence that I remember. "If you are riding in a car with a COVID-19 positive person and not wearing masks, you may get enough viral load in 10 minutes to get the virus, and if you are wearing masks, it may take 20 minutes". I think that provides clarity. It is helpful for short interactions and minimizing larger droplets, but the help they provide is limited. Collectively it can save lives, but I don't understand the constant all or nothing thinking about it.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Well, masks lower the chances to getting it but aren't 100% protective. Especially if they aren't high quality or if both parties involved don't wear it (here both sides have to wear it). Plus you have a fair share of people who don't wear it in right a way, if you don't cover both nose and mouth this is as if you don't wear it. While covering eyes probably isn't that bad idea either. Constantly available hand sanitizer for the staff and shoppers also isn't a bad practice/idea.

 

[Mind Maverick]

Some young guy walked past me..."Oh, thank you" (to me). Turned to his friend and complained I shut the door in his face. Bitch you came like a foot or less away from me, you wanted me to stand there like "here you go prince" while you don't social distance and put me at risk for COVID-19? Fuck off, mate. I don't have to hold the door open for you anyways, you entitled douchenozzle, it's just polite.

 

[Jaguar]

Almost 30 Test Positive For COVID-19 After Attending Funeral In Becker County – WCCO | CBS Minnesota

It's a contagious monster. 29 of the 35 people at the service tested positive.

 

[Stigmata]

Some young guy walked past me..."Oh, thank you" (to me). Turned to his friend and complained I shut the door in his face. Bitch you came like a foot or less away from me, you wanted me to stand there like "here you go prince" while you don't social distance and put me at risk for COVID-19? Fuck off, mate. I don't have to hold the door open for you anyways, you entitled douchenozzle, it's just polite.

One bright spot in 2020 is seeing douchenozzle make its triumphant return.

 

[ceecee]

Six test positive for COVID at Christian camp in Barry County

smh

 

[Virtual ghost]

Yeap, Europe as a whole evidently mess it up. From some countries going again to 4 digit daily growths to record days in some of them.
It isn't enough for panic but the trend evidently needs to be stopped. Since way too many people got too comfortable due to "summer time".

 

[Mind Maverick]

Almost 30 Test Positive For COVID-19 After Attending Funeral In Becker County – WCCO | CBS Minnesota

It's a contagious monster. 29 of the 35 people at the service tested positive.

"We were social distancing!"
Lol I seriously doubt that. Nobody has been taking that shit seriously (except for me, apparently).



I'm tempted to wear a shirt that says "I tested positive for COVID-19" so people will stay back.

No, but really, I'm probably getting tested tomorrow.

 

[Red Herring]

Yeap, Europe as a whole evidently mess it up. From some countries going again to 4 digit daily growths to record days in some of them.
It isn't enough for panic but the trend evidently needs to be stopped. Since way too many people got too comfortable due to "summer time".

I just read an article by Drosten, our most important expert on Covid-19, about handling the second wave. He praises the way Japan handled things and makes a few suggestions for the next few weeks and monthsb
-tracing every infected person is hopeless, focus on finding infection clusters like parties, large office spaces, etc.
- look into the past rather than the future when detecting a case. By the time they have symtoms and test positive they are barely infectious anymore. Contagiousness is highest during the two days before symtoms start. Look where they might have caught it and if someone else might be affected.
- Five days of mandatory strict quarantine is enough but it must be done immediately and unbureaucratically as soon as there is reason to assume an infection.
-There will always be a remaining risk and not enough ressources to eradicate the virus. Focus on clusters and highest risks. That also means clear people as soon as their viral load is below a certain level.
- in exchange for this leniency and unbureacratic approach compliance is even more important than ever. There for governments and health authorities should clearly communicate the strategy and where the main risks lie so that people can avoid the riskiest places and events.


I should add that he is a virologist, not an epidemiologist. He knows SARS-CoV-2 like few other people on the planet as its his absolute area of expertise, but he is sometimes a bit naive about human nature.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I just read an article by Drosten, our most important expert on Covid-19, about handling the second wave. He praises the way Japan handled things and makes a few suggestions for the next few weeks and monthsb
-tracing every infected person is hopeless, focus on finding infection clusters like parties, large office spaces, etc.
- look into the past rather than the future when detecting a case. By the time they have symtoms and test positive they are barely infectious anymore. Contagiousness is highest during the two days before symtoms start. Look where they might have caught it and if someone else might be affected.
- Five days of mandatory strict quarantine is enough but it must be done immediately and unbureaucratically as soon as there is reason to assume an infection.
-There will always be a remaining risk and not enough ressources to eradicate the virus. Focus on clusters and highest risks. That also means clear people as soon as their viral load is below a certain level.
- in exchange for this leniency and unbureacratic approach compliance is even more important than ever. There for governments and health authorities should clearly communicate the strategy and where the main risks lie so that people can avoid the riskiest places and events.


I should add that he is a virologist, not an epidemiologist. He knows SARS-CoV-2 like few other people on the planet as its his absolute area of expertise, but he is sometimes a bit naive about human nature.

Regarding the approach there is nothing truly new for me here. In general I would say that we do this from day one and it seems we generally put quite visible amount of effort in trying to disrupt mass infections. This is exactly why we tend to keep numbers blow 1000 known active known cases. Full micro control is impossible but control of risky places is bout active and possible. They even made a rule that if your wedding is really big that authorities have to overlook it. However in many places around the continent the numbers are clearly growing and that needs to be cut off as a trend before things get really serious. What already seems to be the case in Spain. Plus Poland, Romania and Ukraine yesterday had their daily records even if those numbers aren't ultra high globally. However those are countries that probably can't deal too well if infections starts to rise faster than this. There clear 4 digit daily grows probably leads to overwhelming of the system not that far down the road. A part of me clearly waits that the Summer ends since that lowers quite a bit traveling around Europe. What in this situation isn't really the wisest thing to do/allow.

 

[Jaguar]

I'm tempted to wear a shirt that says "I tested positive for COVID-19" so people will stay back.

That got me to laugh out loud. I thank you.

 

[ceecee]

"We were social distancing!"
Lol I seriously doubt that. Nobody has been taking that shit seriously (except for me, apparently).



I'm tempted to wear a shirt that says "I tested positive for COVID-19" so people will stay back.

No, but really, I'm probably getting tested tomorrow.

I saw a huge sign on a corner that said PUT ON A GODDAMN MASK! today. It was a more hip and trendy neighborhood so everyone was already wearing one.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Americans hunt for loopholes to get into Europe


Some even made it all the way here.