• You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to additional post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), view blogs, respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today! Just click here to register. You should turn your Ad Blocker off for this site or certain features may not work properly. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us by clicking here.

The Dangerous Case Of Donald Trump

Jaguar

Active member
Joined
May 5, 2007
Messages
20,639
Indeed he did. And the absence of Trump's usual defenders in this thread speaks volumes. As much as I'd love to hear "I was wrong, you guys were right. Trump is a danger to our country and I'm sorry for supporting him," silence is, I think, the best we'll get.

Also, this:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1347269272477659136

Truly a WTF moment watching this.

TypoC's version of Sidney Powell is nowhere to be found. ;)
As for Tokyo? I have no words.
 

Abcdenfp

Terpsichore
Joined
May 19, 2017
Messages
1,649
MBTI Type
ENFP
Enneagram
7W8
Indeed he did. And the absence of Trump's usual defenders in this thread speaks volumes. As much as I'd love to hear "I was wrong, you guys were right. Trump is a danger to our country and I'm sorry for supporting him," silence is, I think, the best we'll get.

Also, this:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1347269272477659136

Truly a WTF moment watching this.

sad state of affairs all around … 2021 came out the gate swinging .. i would say that his defenders might be missing from this thread but they are alive and well in the internet comments, and they aren't embarrassed but creepily proud... strange days ahead
 

The Cat

The Cat in the Tinfoil Hat..
Staff member
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
27,398
Yes, that's likely too, they are a bunch of tools but I do not know what their end game is and its hopelessly vague, it always has been, any time its articulated its an orgy of violence or murder or something equally nasty but that's about it.

Its like the prison rioters who break into a food locker or something, they know full well that in a few days time they'll be back to how they always were.

No vision and no idea what so ever.

I dont think its like that tbh. :unsure:
 

ceecee

Coolatta® Enjoyer
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
16,334
MBTI Type
INTJ
Enneagram
8w9
Yes, that's likely too, they are a bunch of tools but I do not know what their end game is and its hopelessly vague, it always has been, any time its articulated its an orgy of violence or murder or something equally nasty but that's about it.

Its like the prison rioters who break into a food locker or something, they know full well that in a few days time they'll be back to how they always were.

No vision and no idea what so ever.

This was an attempted coup. Successful coups require the backing of the military - they have since antiquity. That's the biggest reason this one failed. Their goal was to remove one person from power and install another regardless of the democratic process. That was their end game.
 

Mole

Permabanned
Joined
Mar 20, 2008
Messages
20,282
As a long and loyal ally of the USA we are shocked to see the picture of rioters taking off the lectern of the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

We know that physically this will not change the vote, and we know this is a symbolic blow to the body of democracy.

Carl Jung our guru freely and without coercion joined the side in WW II against democracy, but he lost. And today we see democracy is being traduced in the home of democracy.
 

The Cat

The Cat in the Tinfoil Hat..
Staff member
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
27,398
This was an attempted coup. Successful coups require the backing of the military - they have since antiquity. That's the biggest reason this one failed. Their goal was to remove one person from power and install another regardless of the democratic process. That was their end game.

:yes:
 

Virtual ghost

Complex paradigm
Joined
Jun 6, 2008
Messages
22,114
This was an attempted coup. Successful coups require the backing of the military - they have since antiquity. That's the biggest reason this one failed. Their goal was to remove one person from power and install another regardless of the democratic process. That was their end game.



This was part of their game but I am not sure this is their end game. Since I totally would be surprised that they form some kind of resistance movement. They already did many years ago but this time it will be in a more formal fashion. Which is why it is vital that the new administration takes it's job seriously and right away, since prevention of radicalization is basically the only thing that can prevent massive damage down the road.
 

Mole

Permabanned
Joined
Mar 20, 2008
Messages
20,282
This was an attempted coup. Successful coups require the backing of the military - they have since antiquity. That's the biggest reason this one failed. Their goal was to remove one person from power and install another regardless of the democratic process. That was their end game.

The US military, with all their faults and virtues, remain loyal to the Constitution of the USA.

So the rioters are as American as apple pie, they are narcissists unable to see beyond themselves, beyond their own thoughts and feelings, they are impotent, hysteric, screaming about freedom, while disrespecting Representative Democracy.

They are quite childlike, having a tantrum, not unlike their leader in the White House.
 

The Cat

The Cat in the Tinfoil Hat..
Staff member
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
27,398
The Game of Thrones has no end game.:mellow: The cycle is ongoing, and Winter is still coming...
 

ceecee

Coolatta® Enjoyer
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
16,334
MBTI Type
INTJ
Enneagram
8w9
This was part of their game but I am not sure this is their end game. Since I totally would be surprised that they form some kind of resistance movement. They already did many years ago but this time it will be in a more formal fashion. Which is why it is vital that the new administration takes it's job seriously and right away, since prevention of radicalization is basically the only thing that can prevent massive damage down the road.

The true end game (beyond the coup attempt) is to be able to continue the grift/creating content for the true believers. That's true from Trump, his entire wretched family and every right wing radio and TV gasbag and podcaster now calling for a return to civic values.

I have no doubt the new administration will take it's job seriously although I am lol'ing at the idea of Merrick Garland getting to enjoy a really nicely fleshed out karma.

I'm being told not to call it a coup for historical and practical reasons so, I guess we'll go with Bay of Chuds crisis? Capitol Cryfest? The Fired Festival? The Incel Insurrection?
 

Mad Hatter

Head Pigeon
Joined
Nov 3, 2009
Messages
1,087
MBTI Type
INTP
Enneagram
-1w
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
This was an attempted coup. Successful coups require the backing of the military - they have since antiquity. That's the biggest reason this one failed. Their goal was to remove one person from power and install another regardless of the democratic process. That was their end game.

If it was, it has to be one of the most pathetic, vulgar, ill-conceived and unjustified coups in recent history. I can't imagine who

Wait. Yes. Makes sense.
 

Virtual ghost

Complex paradigm
Joined
Jun 6, 2008
Messages
22,114
The true end game (beyond the coup attempt) is to be able to continue the grift/creating content for the true believers. That's true from Trump, his entire wretched family and every right wing radio and TV gasbag and podcaster now calling for a return to civic values.

I have no doubt the new administration will take it's job seriously although I am lol'ing at the idea of Merrick Garland getting to enjoy a really nicely fleshed out karma.

I'm being told not to call it a coup for historical and practical reasons so, I guess we'll go with Bay of Chuds crisis? Capitol Cryfest? The Fired Festival? The Incel Insurrection?


Well, it seems that there are threats to primary every republican that isn't siding with Trump. Therefore if we consider how the base thinks that could really hurt the establishment of the party. As a matter of fact it could undo it with time. Therefore for me all of this could easily be just the beginning of the real saga. Because the base for this is evidently there. Especially since all of this will be kinda forgotten 6 months down the road, just as the scandals from mid 2020. Since there is too much crap for anything to stick for too long.
 

Z Buck McFate

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Joined
Aug 25, 2009
Messages
6,069
Enneagram
5w4
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
An old friend of mine just posted this comment on another friend's Fb status, and I think it's so spot on that I'm c/p-ing it here:
Everyone is the hero in their own version of the story.

The misinformation has dug so deep that the far right is CONVINCED that they have woken up to the true oppression. They are righteous in their anger because they think they are saving the rest of us, and that the light of history will show them to be right.

Which is nuts.

There is no set of facts that disagrees with their position that they will believe. Even if they do, there is some manufactured "whataboutism" that they believe is worse, so nevermind the one thing that was wrong over there, look at all of this other stuff.

The firehose of misinformation can not be defeated by the squirt gun of truth. It is easier and faster to mass produce lies than it is to factually establish that they are lies.​

And he posted a link to this, which I've not read yet but plan to later: The Russian "Firehose of Falsehood" Propaganda Model: Why It Might Work and Options to Counter It

d67edea543e0a37b78599f443841d355.png
 

Lark

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 21, 2009
Messages
29,682
This was an attempted coup. Successful coups require the backing of the military - they have since antiquity. That's the biggest reason this one failed. Their goal was to remove one person from power and install another regardless of the democratic process. That was their end game.

I think they were a bunch of idiots who were duped into becoming easy targets for the authorities.

There was a greater chance of a coup happening at the time of 9/11 and the Bush administration, it was something more in the order of Bushwick and the Bush co. wars allowed them something to do instead, the massive private armies of nazis and nazi like groups which went out to perform support roles in those wars.
 

Merced

Talk to me.
Joined
May 14, 2016
Messages
3,594
MBTI Type
ESTJ
Enneagram
28?
Instinctual Variant
so/sp
Donald Trump has recieved a permaban for causing unrest, inciting violence, and doing a fascism despite multiple warnings and requests not to. The rules are not selective people. If you want to become GodKing of America, use Private Feedback.
 

Stigmata

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 16, 2011
Messages
8,849
Donald Trump has recieved a permaban for causing unrest, inciting violence, and doing a fascism despite multiple warnings and requests not to. The rules are not selective people. If you want to become GodKing of America, use Private Feedback.

 
Joined
Jul 24, 2008
Messages
22,429
MBTI Type
EVIL
Enneagram
5w6
Instinctual Variant
sp/so
Donald Trump has recieved a permaban for causing unrest, inciting violence, and doing a fascism despite multiple warnings and requests not to. The rules are not selective people. If you want to become GodKing of America, use Private Feedback.

 

The Cat

The Cat in the Tinfoil Hat..
Staff member
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
27,398
Donald Trump has recieved a permaban for causing unrest, inciting violence, and doing a fascism despite multiple warnings and requests not to. The rules are not selective people. If you want to become GodKing of America, use Private Feedback.

We really can't stress it enough.:drwho:
 
Top