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Z Buck McFate

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Are you around the Gary area, then?

Austin is definitely the most liberal of the Texas cities, for sure, but Houston's shifted dramatically in the last few years. Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio have all trended more Democratic as people from out of state move to Texas and the suburbs grow increasingly disaffected with the Republican Party. That being said, our large cities are still more conservative compared to NYC, LA, etc.

Yeah, similarly, NW Indiana leans blue but it's still more conservative than the Chicago area suburbs I'm accustomed to.

Gary is a rather self-enclosed universe unto itself. It's only 2-3 towns down the Lake Michigan shore from where I currently live yet I constantly forget it's even in Indiana.
 

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All seriousness, I rag on the idiocy of governance of Republicans in Texas, but it's not completely partisan for sure. From what I hear, the new spike in California is provoked by people in more suburban areas like Huntington Beach, Orange County, and the surrounding suburbs of the Bay Area (which are 50-50 Dem and Republican), but it can happen in states with more left-leaning governance for sure. That being said, the current spike is definitely hitting red states a lot harder than blue states.

That was aimed at the small but vocal group that are so incredibly cavalier about others' lives.

Most of the new cases in Florida are in younger age groups where the virus won't do much harm. The fatality rate among those under 30 with no underlying conditions is essentially zero. This pandemic is winding down; just look at the daily deaths chart.

But of course a blue state can be run irresponsibly or flagrantly neglectful, pandering to $$ and nothing more. But more often than not, I have seen Dem governors and a few GOP governors trying to do what is best for the people of their state only to be stopped at every turn for PPE or equipment or funds for the people of their state by this pile of shit administration.

I have a very good friend who is an RN at Houston Methodist. I worry about her every day and have since this started.
 

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Women’s Roller Derby Has a Plan for Covid, and It Kicks Ass | WIRED

“The plan came out of the need to create something that just didn’t exist,” says Erica Vanstone, the executive director of the WFTDA, which oversees more than 450 roller derby leagues across the globe. “We wanted to be fair, but we also wanted to set a very important standard, which was safety first.” The current version was completed in late May, and already the organization has fielded nearly 700 requests for the document, and not just from roller derby leagues. Among those asking for the guidelines are the Edinburgh Racqueteers badminton group, the Cleveland Catholic Youth Organization, Canada Basketball, and the Tasmanian State government in Australia.
 

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Gov. Greg Abbott requires masks statewide to fight COVID-19, limits size of gatherings

The move marks a major reversal for Abbott, who in April blocked local officials from penalizing people who don’t wear masks, undermining their efforts to require face coverings in public. Those who don’t follow Abbott’s latest order first face a warning, and then fines of up to $250 for any additional offense.

But my freedoms......

Perhaps people should stop bitching about those Dem governors and their "unconstitutional" whatever the fuck.
 

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Thank you, I'm honored to join you on your quest of petulant selfishness and science-denial! What do these "elites" know with their facts and evidence? We the people, who value our "freedoms" (while ignoring the reason Americans are more financially fucked than other OECD nations is because of science-denial and a poor safety net, not the lockdown) must give the middle finger to all who get in our way of strutting around the beach as if all is normal.
The laws of nature are not subject to popular vote or majority rule.
 

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What if getting a cold imparts immunity to the COVID-19 coronavirus?


Here's an interesting finding from one study. (More studies are needed to determine if this finding is actually true, and whether the T-cell immunity represents actual immunity.)

When they exposed the blood samples to the COVID-19 coronavirus, they found, as expected, that blood from those who had had the illness produced a substantial immune response. More significantly, they also found that 81 percent of the subjects who had never had COVID-19 also produced a T-cell immune reaction, reports The Science Times. If the German study's results prove out, that would suggest that earlier common cold coronavirus infections may provide about eight in 10 people some degree of immune protection from the COVID-19 virus

Source: COVID-19 Herd Immunity Is Much Closer Than Antibody Tests Suggest, Say 2 New Studies – Reason.com

More info on coronavirus types
 

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City of Chicago :: Emergency Travel Order

Chicago is now enacting mandatory quarantine for travelers from "gold standard" states like Florida and Texas.

When the order goes into effect on July 6, travelers from the following states will be directed to quarantine upon arrival in Chicago: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Nevada, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Utah.

I guess it's just to make Trump look bad. Because evidently he needs help with that, lol.
 

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NPR (no paywall) : In Arizona, Nearly 1 In 4 Coronavirus Tests Now Comes Back Positive

Younger adults are driving much of Arizona's outbreak, with many cases popping up among people in their 20s and 30s, an age group that is more likely to show mild symptoms or be asymptomatic.

That makes tracking cases even more difficult, but Gerald says it may also save Arizona's hospitals from being as overwhelmed as those in a place like New York City.

"If there's any saving grace ... it's that new cases are heavily concentrated in those best able to survive the infection," he said.

It doesn't say anything about what they're doing to prevent it from spreading to the vulnerable population though. It kinda feels - with all of these states where the people who are infected are all younger (and don't need hospitalization, aren't at much at risk) - like waiting for the other shoe to drop. The number of fatalities is going to start skyrocketing (again) along with the number of cases if they don't figure out how to block it, and I don't see how that's even possible. All it takes is 1 out of 50 younger pre-symptomatic caregivers in a facility (or nurses, or any kind of staff) to bring something in. (I have heard that most of the virus is spread by superspreaders, but that doesn't mean that people who aren't superspreaders aren't still contagious).
 

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Dumb people I work with:

"covid-19 is nothing but the flu.."

"It's a liberal hoax.."

"The libruhs have created a virus in an election year to hurt trump's chances because they know he was going to win reelection.."

"The masks are worthless..."

"They say the hospitals are full -- I drove past one and saw parking out front, so therefore that's a lie..."

"They're killing people in hospitals and classifying it as covid deaths..."

"I mean, do you actually know anyone who's had it??"

"We should've never shut the country down -- the mortality rate is 0.06% (keep on mind this number goes lower each time they use this talking point). It only affects old people"

Mfw after hearing this for several weeks on end, seeing many of those same people contract covid-19 after choosing not to wear masks or adhere to social distancing guidelines:
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Throw a gigantic sigh and shaking of head in disappointment in there somewhere.
 

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NPR (no paywall) : In Arizona, Nearly 1 In 4 Coronavirus Tests Now Comes Back Positive

Younger adults are driving much of Arizona's outbreak, with many cases popping up among people in their 20s and 30s, an age group that is more likely to show mild symptoms or be asymptomatic.

That makes tracking cases even more difficult, but Gerald says it may also save Arizona's hospitals from being as overwhelmed as those in a place like New York City.

"If there's any saving grace ... it's that new cases are heavily concentrated in those best able to survive the infection," he said.

It doesn't say anything about what they're doing to prevent it from spreading to the vulnerable population though. It kinda feels - with all of these states where the people who are infected are all younger (and don't need hospitalization, aren't at much at risk) - like waiting for the other shoe to drop. The number of fatalities is going to start skyrocketing (again) along with the number of cases if they don't figure out how to block it, and I don't see how that's even possible. All it takes is 1 out of 50 younger pre-symptomatic caregivers in a facility (or nurses, or any kind of staff) to bring something in. (I have heard that most of the virus is spread by superspreaders, but that doesn't mean that people who aren't superspreaders aren't still contagious).

To my knowledge, they aren't doing anything to stop it from spreading and are blaming it on more testing. :wacko:

My fear is that this virus will mutate and start infecting more children/babies. Especially ones to young to have built up immunity or are newborns in hospital/NICU. This was discussed early on but obviously not a conversation as up until now, children aren't really contracting it. They also chirped about the virus being killed in hot weather....

Not that it's going to matter to the no mask to own the libs crowd - they've yet to show that any life matters to them.
 

Z Buck McFate

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To my knowledge, they aren't doing anything to stop it from spreading and are blaming it on more testing. :wacko:

My fear is that this virus will mutate and start infecting more children/babies. Especially ones to young to have built up immunity or are newborns in hospital/NICU. This was discussed early on but obviously not a conversation as up until now, children aren't really contracting it. They also chirped about the virus being killed in hot weather....

Not that it's going to matter to the no mask to own the libs crowd - they've yet to show that any life matters to them.

My own inability to recall exactly where I read/heard something drives me mad, but I know I've seen things recently about the aftermath this virus leaves on the body might have a bigger effect on children than we realize. There's a great deal we don't know about this virus and it's not fear-mongering to entertain the possibility it's true. Running around the streets (or excessive social media posting) yelling, "We're killing our babies!" is fear-mongering. Either extreme ('there's no imminent danger' vs 'we're gonna die') - feeling certainty about something even experts don't yet know - is a defense mechanism to avoid anxiety of the unknown. There's *a lot* of unknowns about this virus and about what effect it may have on children. Even though that toxic shock-like syndrome that children have been getting is super rare, it relatively proves children aren't exactly home free and that there are after-effects in them we didn't see coming.
 
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