Coronavirus

[ceecee]

Really? Because no one around me at work seems to be taking this seriously. A bunch of people actually had a pot luck today, all gathered together in a small, enclosed room. This right after one of our VPs had sent out a memo about social distancing.

I think most of them are so first.

smh

I'm working from home until at least March 27. Since most of my work is in hospitals, nursing homes and rehab facilities, it's understandable.

I had a man tell me last week the virus not nearly as serious as was being reported. He's now in ICU, I found out this morning. Take it seriously.

 

[Maou]

One of my Co-worker's dad is being tested for Corona virus. This resulted in my co-worker getting tested as well today. Been hearing rumors they might shut down the store if someone actually has it. This fucking sucks, and I hope they pay us vacation pay, or let us work. I am far more worried about bills, than getting sick. I have also been sanitizing the fuck out of everything. But in a shop, it is difficult.

 

[Jaguar]

That is why by the book crisis doesn't count. Now everyone is a Sp dom.
By that logic I can say that "tonight's sex confirmed to me that I am Sx dom", what is simply the the wrong way to think about this.

I'm Sx dom, but we have some jokers in the forum who think it's about wanting to be with more people. Ridiculous.

 

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

On my way into the grocery store today, there were some ladies standing next to one of those bin type freezers, and sounding worked up about the coronavirus as I passed. I wasn't bothered, since I didn't need anything near them. But if I did, I would have been full of rage. On my way out of the store, 20 mins later, they were still there. I could've gone over there, reached around them to get chicken nuggets and coughed. Then I'd say, "I'm sorry. I've been really sick." They deserved that for not sitting down at the Starbucks, right over there, and chatting out of the way. I didn't though.

 

[Population: 1]

I definitely have some of that sp going on, but didn't manage to make it to the store before the toilet paper was cleared out.

^This would be the sx first approach to this crisis.

Behold! The Pyramid of Plush. Marvel at it’s gentle touch and 3 ply pliability. I shall ascend to the heavens upon a platform of cottony softness and mingle with the very gods! Who’s coming with me?

In all seriousness, I’m amazed at how much hasn’t changed in terms of human behavior since the bubonic plague erupted in Medieval Europe. Even with the rise of science we’re still inclined to engage in similar behaviors. I’m not saying this event is on par with The Black Death but the cycle of denial, anger, and finally acceptance seems timeless.

I just went to my local grocery store to get a couple of things. Although it was an orderly process, people were methodically emptying the shelves with controlled concern upon their faces. Looks like acceptance is in town.

 

[Maou]

Behold! The Pyramid of Plush. Marvel at it’s gentle touch and 3 ply pliability. I shall ascend to the heavens upon a platform of cottony softness and mingle with the very gods! Who’s coming with me?

In all seriousness, I’m amazed at how much hasn’t changed in terms of human behavior since the bubonic plague erupted in Medieval Europe. Even with the rise of science we’re still inclined to engage in similar behaviors. I’m not saying this event is on par with The Black Death but the cycle of denial, anger, and finally acceptance seems timeless.

I just went to my local grocery store to get a couple of things. Although it was an orderly process, people were methodically emptying the shelves with controlled concern upon their faces. Looks like acceptance is in town.

People like to deny it, but no amount of knowledge prevents the human animal reacting on instinct and human nature. Humans will always do these things. Society is just a masquerade.

 

[Red Memories]

Really? Because no one around me at work seems to be taking this seriously. A bunch of people actually had a pot luck today, all gathered together in a small, enclosed room. This right after one of our VPs had sent out a memo about social distancing.

I think most of them are so first.

I went to take an exam at a testing center because I had to and was freaking out about being in public because coronavirus, and in an enclosed space like that. When I left I obsessively sanitized my hands. I am not seeing either of my friends until a much later date because either one of them could get it, and one gives 0 shits about the virus. I've always considered myself Sx first. XD

 

[Red Memories]

smh

I'm working from home until at least March 27. Since most of my work is in hospitals, nursing homes and rehab facilities, it's understandable.

I had a man tell me last week the virus not nearly as serious as was being reported. He's now in ICU, I found out this morning. Take it seriously.

Thank you for considering them I've always felt fond of the elderly and its hard hearing how many people shrug this thing off as a bad flu that's only killing the elderly... So it gives me a little faith in humanity to hear someone considering that issue.

 

[Jaguar]

The CDC has been inconsistent in its reporting of how many people a day are being tested in the U.S., but experts say the number is extremely low. By comparison, South Korea is testing some 15,000 people a day, NPR's Anthony Kuhn reports from Seoul. "Our response [in the U.S.] is much, much worse than almost any other country that's been affected," Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told NPR.

MAGA!

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

smh

I'm working from home until at least March 27. Since most of my work is in hospitals, nursing homes and rehab facilities, it's understandable.

I had a man tell me last week the virus not nearly as serious as was being reported. He's now in ICU, I found out this morning. Take it seriously.

People are being misled into thinking this is, at worst, another bad flu bug. It's frustrating, and it pisses me off to see people around me shrugging it off.

I actually heard an older coworker the other day saying they thought there was "too much information" being dumped on the public about this.

 

[ceecee]

People are being misled into thinking this is, at worst, another bad flu bug. It's frustrating, and it pisses me off to see people around me shrugging it off.

I actually heard an older coworker the other day saying they thought there was "too much information" being dumped on the public about this.

Well, that's all fear and a lot of people were already driven by fear to being with, for a long time. Consider the level of anxiety and fear that got us this administration.

I guess when you get to watch, close up, how bad the US health system is and how woefully unprepared it is for any kind of crisis then, yeah, you are for M4A and testing ASAP and harnessing all the force of the federal, state and local governments. Not an economic bailout..

Going alone, worrying about yourself is simply not going to cut it. That mindset got us here and frankly I have no patience for it - no one should.

But there is a decent sized segment of the US population that simply blocks the information out, ignores what's staring them in the face and goes about their day. Until they can't. And then they expect every effort to be made on their behalf. That kind of entitlement mindset is something horrible about this country.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Well, that's all fear and a lot of people were already driven by fear to being with, for a long time. Consider the level of anxiety and fear that got us this administration.

I guess when you get to watch, close up, how bad the US health system is and how woefully unprepared it is for any kind of crisis then, yeah, you are for M4A and testing ASAP and harnessing all the force of the federal, state and local governments. Not an economic bailout..

Going alone, worrying about yourself is simply not going to cut it. That mindset got us here and frankly I have no patience for it - no one should.

But there is a decent sized segment of the US population that simply blocks the information out, ignores what's staring them in the face and goes about their day. Until they can't. And then they expect every effort to be made on their behalf. That kind of entitlement mindset is something horrible about this country.

And to be honest, it really doesn't take all that much for most people to do their small part. People just need to limit their public excursions to as-needed. Limit their contact with others to essential only. For people who can't afford to quit or stop wrking or who don't have the luxury of working from home, businesses whenever possible need to limit their work schedules and if possible award extra sick days. My company just decided to award every employee 5 extra sick days. It's not much, but it's a start.

 

[Yuurei]

They've started to shut down every coffee ahop withon walking distance-now it's a crisis.

 

[EcK]

I would like to believe your explanation: That the number of cases is vastly under-reported. Because that would indicate that the mortality rate from the disease is actually very low.

According to your theory, the disease is vastly under-reported and is actually quite wide-spread in Australia to the point that Hanks and his wife could pick it up locally at random in that country. Meantime, according to official statistics, Australia has only had something like a grand total of 3 coronavirus-related deaths in the entire continent thus far. That would indicate that the disease isn't very deadly at all: You're saying that lots of people have it in Australia, but almost no fatalities are occurring from it. That would be very good news.

In my previous post, I was just throwing out a pet theory of my own--that Hanks & wife probably picked it up on a flight either to Australia or on a flight within Australia. Flights may be a particular problem for older celebs, etc. because celebs use planes so frequently. But who knows. I don't believe that Hanks has indicated where or how they picked up the disease, and we're all just speculating about the nature and extent of the disease at this point. So I'm just guessing, like everyone else. Time will tell.

Well yeah I don’t have hard data. But given how containment keeps failing it follows that there must be a significant number of “sleeper cells” for the virus in the form of a asymptomatic or near asymptomatic people. How significant? I don’t know. And maybe in a few months when all the data is in it will appear that the few ministers & high profile people who caught this in countries with very few cases were in fact not statistically significant.

I’m just throwing out some ideas based on very partial data. I do however believe the official numbers can’t be correct - I m not saying they re necessarily hugely smaller than the real numbers but testing protocols seem to focus on travelers etc. Let’s not forget that the epidemic was going on and spreading for a few weeks before China did anything. There was plenty of time for carriers to bring it before any control measures were taken at the various borders.

 

[FemMecha]

Anyone posting here and reading this live in Italy right now? I would like to hear descriptions of what is happening there. What is this like further into the process?


Article about situation in Italy

 

[ceecee]

Anyone posting here and reading this live in Italy right now? I would like to hear descriptions of what is happening there. What is this like further into the process?


Article about situation in Italy

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[Virtual ghost]

I bought industrial mega pack with 70 rolls of toilet paper in it.


However I am in luck that here we didn't really get off from warzone mentality. Nobody really cares about the stock market, even the news. This is because we in some parts of the country we had up to 10 political systems since ww1. Therefore one more meltdown doesn't really make a difference, we will rebuild again if needed. After all government and foreign governments have domination in big local companies that have shares, so there is no need for drama. Also the government is expanding rules with which you can postpone paying your bills or whatever, what should give financial system flexibility. Borders and events are closing while healthcare is a human right designed to threat the wounded or treat people who lost their jobs or homes to the front line. In one bizarre way all of this is giving me nostalgic feelings about my childhood, for me this is actually "the normal world". After all in crisis my people usually outperform, since we aren't really made for normal.

I was right, these are basically the new 90s.


As the schools are closed the teaching is moving to public TV channels and through that the homework will be given, just as in the 90s when war zone was very concrete danger in many regions.
Most of politicians gathered at the parliament and they debate how to keep the country together, partisan politics seems to be suspended. (unusual sights but this is the logic of 90s)
Global trade suppressed our industry but it didn't kill it off completely, therefore now many local factories are expecting to see gains not seen in a long time due to closed borders.
Health experts, Generals and key people of various departments for public safety got probably a dominant amount of media time.


However what is funny is that for many many years we as a nation were joking how we can't function properly without strong central government and marshal law. While this kinda proves the truth that was masked as the joke the whole time. We simply need apocalypse at the door to function properly and have our strengths visible.




"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" at it's best.

 

[Tellenbach]

If you run out of toilet paper, you could just cut up some old t-shirts.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Italy’s foreign minister hails Chinese coronavirus aid


A slap all over EUs face.

 

[FemMecha]

I'm okay. I'm from Lombardy, the region with the most cases and where the lockdown started, before being extended to the rest of the country. We're under lockdown, though it's looser than the one adopted in China (no militaries, just the police asking to certificate the reason why you're moving around during routine checks, such as when they stop you to check if you have a license to drive). Just today, most shops have been closed, except for the most essencial ones.
The numbers are terrifying. Sadly, the government acted too late. Now, hospitals are struggling. It's hard to find enough places in the ICU for everyone, but our hospitals are making it, somehow. Our healthcare system is currently under extremely heavy stress. We're gonna need to wait for two weeks in order to know if the measures taken have been effective.

What could have happened is that someone from Germany brought the disease in here, when direct flights from China were stopped (direct flights for China land in Rome. The main outbreak has been in Lombardy, not far from Milan, where flights from Germany, usually used as connecting flights from China, land.)
We have underextimated the virus, and it quickly spread. We don't know if the main source has been a guy who was infected and went to the ER two times before the doctors realied it was Corona (This guy hadn't been in China recently, so the protocols didn't provide for him to be tested).
When they realized it was cv, initially a few cities have been put under lockdown. As of today, more than two weeks later, those cities have zero new infected people, but it had already started to spread.

Cytokine storms are pretty rare with covid and not the main thing you should be scared of. I'm not a doctor, so I don't want to take a position about prevention, but the best measure is STAYING THE FUCK AT HOME (what the italian government has been asking us to do lately), herbs do little to nothing. Unless the other countries start to compulsively test people, you don't know the actual number of infections.

Stuff I think you should know, since people here ignore them:
We've just had doctors debunking people who advocated for vitamin C to help your immune system. It doesn't.
Surgical masks protect other people from you, not you from other people.

This being said, I dunno. If you have any questions, just ask me.

I am glad to hear that you are okay. This is a disturbing and scary time.

I have some questions about what happens with the flow of resources when this hits hard.

Are utilities effected in your country as a side effect of this? Is there water and electricity not effected? I know there isn't an obvious link, but I just wonder if there are ways the system gets overtaxed or personnel is low and the results can be unexpected.

Also, you mentioned essential stores remaining open, so does that include grocery stores? But not restaurants or coffee shops? Gas stations? Once again, I can't think of a direct link, but it seems that fuel is always affected during crisis for reasons I never fully understand.

Also I know there is that inner question of what to do if you personally get flu symptoms. As someone who is reasonably healthy immune system-wise, I feel like I fight off flu bugs better than average, so it isn't normal for me to go to the doctor about it. However, should everyone try to get checked out early at the doctor or is that going to be damaging to resources? Is it better to wait out your own illness with the assumption it isn't Covid-19 and leave the appointments for more vulnerable individuals and stay home, or is that irresponsible?