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Its just really hard to take your responses as being serious from a serious person. Not that there's anything wrong with being unserious. I myself am a very unserious person from time to time. Seriously. But fun wordplay and banter aside; when someone carries as much water for fascism as you seem to be, with such seeming willful blindness, with all the strawmen and false equivalencies you can carry...essentially acting like a meme of the alt right.... People are gonna not take you seriously as anything but.

And of course, you are in no way biased for calling me alt-right when I have never voted for Trump.

No, I have a level head in this because I am not googoo gaga for Biden. And falling head over heals for Biden is probably all you will accept as far as being "rational" is concerned.
 

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And of course, you are in no way biased for calling me alt-right when I have never voted for Trump.

No, I have a level head in this because I am not googoo gaga for Biden. And falling head over heals for Biden is probably all you will accept as far as being "rational" is concerned.
You dont have to vote for trump to be alt right. Just like you dont have to vote for biden to be a leftist. Correlation doesnt imply causality. But when one so carefully ignores the elephant in the room, its not unreasonable to suspect that they can see what they're pretending to not be able to see.
 

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You dont have to vote for trump to be alt right. Just like you dont have to vote for biden to be a leftist. Correlation doesnt imply causality. But when one so carefully ignores the elephant in the room, its not unreasonable to suspect that they can see what they're pretending to not be able to see.

Don't start with that. If you think Biden is a poster child, just say so. I don't believe that though. Read my quote by Plato. Most people in power seek power. As such, most people in power are not fit for the job.
 

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You have to be at least a little crazy to run for president. For Trump, it is his arrogance. For Biden, it is that someone needs to change his diapers.
 

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Don't start with that. If you think Biden is a poster child, just say so. I don't believe that though. Read my quote by Plato. Most people in power seek power. As such, most people in power are not fit for the job.
If I thought Biden were a poster child I would have said so. I read your quote by Plato when you posted it, I'll respond with a quote from Socrates: If given that is your honest belief on the matter, please explain who should be in power if not anyone who seeks it? in other words: Why do you think that? Can you explain?
 

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If I thought Biden were a poster child I would have said so. I read your quote by Plato when you posted it, I'll respond with a quote from Socrates: If given that is your honest belief on the matter, please explain who should be in power if not anyone who seeks it? in other words: Why do you think that? Can you explain?

Because power corrupts. People who seek power want power. Why do you think they want power? Is it to benefit others? No, that is what revolutionaries do, not politicians.
 

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Because power corrupts. People who seek power want power. Why do you think they want power? Is it to benefit others? No, that is what revolutionaries do, not politicians.
And so what then is the solution dear Quick?
 

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And so what then is the solution dear Quick?

Everyday people are the ones who change society the most. Politicians are there to enforce laws for the common good (by punishing wrongdoers). They can barely do that. It should fall on the people to change society, not putting our hope in politicians. So maybe we need a few revolutionaries. Maybe we need a few martyrs for things to change. We need everyday people to become heroes. There is not another solution than that.
 

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Everyday people are the ones who change society the most. Politicians are there to enforce laws for the common good (by punishing wrongdoers). They can barely do that. It should fall on the people to change society, not putting our hope in politicians. So maybe we need a few revolutionaries. Maybe we need a few martyrs for things to change. We need everyday people to become heroes. There is not another solution than that.
And what would this look like in your estimation?
 

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I don't know if I would even want to tell you for fear of being mocked.
I'm genuinely curious, and I'm not intending to mock you, I apologize if you believe so. Rest assured I have no interest in mocking you, I reemphasize at this point, I'm genuinely curious. Should you chose to take a leap of faith, and share your vision. I'll be around tomorrow to read it. In the mean time, I wish you a kindly evening. I do hope you'll take the opportunity to answer the questions.
 

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I'm genuinely curious, and I'm not intending to mock you, I apologize if you believe so. Rest assured I have no interest in mocking you, I reemphasize at this point, I'm genuinely curious. Should you chose to take a leap of faith, and share your vision. I'll be around tomorrow to read it. In the mean time, I wish you a kindly evening. I do hope you'll take the opportunity to answer the questions.

I think we need a revival. There was a book that came out a few years ago called, "Revival or We Die". It was a great book. Easy read, I recommend getting it as it is replete with examples of revivals throughout time and what caused them. So in a word, I would say a call to faith. Not shallow faith, but resolute, orthodox Christian faith. Revival has historically had a massive impact on the culture. Crime went down, volunteering went up. All sorts of positive changes from revival. How does revival happen? We have to first recognize we have a need for it. That starts with the recognition that we are sinful. As individuals and as a nation. I believe there is a lot of perversion in the US right now. For example, the US is the largest importer of sex trafficking. Of course, you will notice that the politicians never bring that horrible horrible thing up. Why? Many of them are doing it themselves! Are you getting a picture of why I don't think politics can solve the problem? It's not that politicians are powerless, it is that they only care about themselves! They just care about the next election. They want to keep their power. So there is this understanding between democrats and republicans that some issues are taboo. They will not touch them even though they are often the worst things happening in our nation. We need people to pray for revival. We need your regular everyday people to get on their knees to pray for a fresh taste of God's Spirit. If enough people do that, then we will see change. And it will really change things from the inside out. If even 25% of fervent orthodox Christians prayed for revival, we would start a revival that would change the world.
 

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Very post. Big wow.
You were asked for more information on your position. And, given the plethora of Freud examples on You Tube that you could have posted, you decided to choose a video from Jordan Peterson.

Jordan Peterson - high priest of crankery and pseudoscience, falsely claimed to be both an evolutionary biologist and a neuroscientist, anti-trans, anti-female, champion of incel-and MGTOW (since they are really the only people that buy conspiracies like cultural Marxism or South African farm attacks) and his statements are notoriously incoherent, ambiguous, and jargon-laden, sometimes rising above vacuousness to the level of deepity, which allows him to handwave criticism as mere misrepresentations of his babbling bullshit. This is ironic, as he criticizes post-modernists for basically doing the same thing.

And while I do understand that you may be unaware of the majority of Jordan Peterson's bullshit, ignorance ESPECIALLY after nearly a decade of looking at how the right in the West operates, really isn't going to be a plausible excuse.


But it makes perfect sense coming from someone that views people that hold anti-fascist positions as "horrible". As a Christian you should be embracing that position with all your might as do many people that are religious. But you've been poisoned by conservative brain worms. You'll cling to those until you find something better to give you direction.
 

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I think we need a revival. There was a book that came out a few years ago called, "Revival or We Die". It was a great book. Easy read, I recommend getting it as it is replete with examples of revivals throughout time and what caused them. So in a word, I would say a call to faith. Not shallow faith, but resolute, orthodox Christian faith. Revival has historically had a massive impact on the culture. Crime went down, volunteering went up. All sorts of positive changes from revival. How does revival happen? We have to first recognize we have a need for it. That starts with the recognition that we are sinful. As individuals and as a nation. I believe there is a lot of perversion in the US right now. For example, the US is the largest importer of sex trafficking. Of course, you will notice that the politicians never bring that horrible horrible thing up. Why? Many of them are doing it themselves! Are you getting a picture of why I don't think politics can solve the problem? It's not that politicians are powerless, it is that they only care about themselves! They just care about the next election. They want to keep their power. So there is this understanding between democrats and republicans that some issues are taboo. They will not touch them even though they are often the worst things happening in our nation. We need people to pray for revival. We need your regular everyday people to get on their knees to pray for a fresh taste of God's Spirit. If enough people do that, then we will see change. And it will really change things from the inside out. If even 25% of fervent orthodox Christians prayed for revival, we would start a revival that would change the world.


This is a secular nation. If you need or want to live in a orthodox Christian theocracy, go there.
 

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Ive been seeing a lot of Kristi Noem's face lately, and her smile does not match her eyes. Her eyes are coldly mirthful, and sometimes cryptically bemused, her eyes leer, shine, and glint, sometimes they sparkle, but not in an effervescent way. But the way oil sparkles on the surface of a puddle of water on asphalt. Thousands of years ago people were kept awake at night, fearing the dark, fearing the jackal headed night gaunted things haunting over deserted tombs or scrabbling outside window sill; things who's eyes looked like hers. She looks like she'd be more appropriately found under a bed, or lurking in a closet. Those are the eyes of a woman who lives in a house of gingerbread.
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"I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too." -Kristie Noem. 10,000BC - Present Age.​
 

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Ive been seeing a lot of Kristi Noem's face lately, and her smile does not match her eyes. Her eyes are coldly mirthful, and sometimes cryptically bemused, her eyes leer, shine, and glint, sometimes they sparkle, but not in an effervescent way. But the way oil sparkles on the surface of a puddle of water on asphalt. Thousands of years ago people were kept awake at night, fearing the dark, fearing the jackal headed night gaunted things haunting over deserted tombs or scrabbling outside window sill; things who's eyes looked like hers. She looks like she'd be more appropriately found under a bed, or lurking in a closet. Those are the eyes of a woman who lives in a house of gingerbread.
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"I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too." -Kristie Noem. 10,000BC - Present Age.​
This is how she looked when she was in congress.

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This is Kimberly Guilfoyle when she was married to Gavin Newsome and looked totally normal.

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And now...

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It's like hateful conservative politics makes women ugly.
 
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