Random Politics Thread

[The Cat]

This is how she looked when she was in congress.

This is Kimberly Guilfoyle when she was married to Gavin Newsome and looked totally normal.

And now...

It's like hateful conservative politics makes women ugly.

It really does look like something else with different eyes is wearing them like a suit.​

 

[The Cat]

Kenneth Copeland has eyes like that. How anyone can believe in the possible existence of demons and not think of that man's eyes is beyond me.

 

[The Cat]

 

[The Cat]

 

[ceecee]

As much as I want to bask in the schadenfreude, this should be held up for all to see (I also think trad lifestylers should just embrace that they have a kink instead of publishing anything). Lauren Southern is a hateful, disgusting right winger who has ruined the lives of people and attempted to murder some of them. But it wasn't till she was oppressed that she spoke out. This is why right wing traditionalist men ain't the men women need to be anything other than a fuck buddy and even that's questionable unless there are safe words and protocol.

A “Tradwife” Discovers the Anti-Feminist Lifestyle Is Miserable and Oppressive ❧ Current Affairs

<p>A horrendous alt-right influencer who encouraged “traditional” gender roles realized that practicing what she preached made her feel enslaved.</p>

www.currentaffairs.org

There were warning signs from early on. “If I ever disagreed with him in any capacity he’d just disappear, for days at a time. I remember there were nights where he’d call me worthless and pathetic, then get in this car and leave.” But she didn’t see them, thanks to the simplified anti-feminist ideology she’d absorbed and promoted: “I had this delusional view of relationships: that only women could be the ones that make or break them, and men can do no wrong.” So she didn’t spot the red flags, even as they grew more extreme. “He’d lock me out of the house. I remember having to knock on the neighbour’s door on rainy nights, because he’d get upset and drive off without unlocking the house. It was very strange, to go from being this public figure on stage with people clapping, to the girl crying, knocking on someone’s door with no home to get into, being abandoned with a baby.” […] “I believed I had a certain role in my relationship,” she told me. “And it was to be the more submissive one that supports my husband’s dreams.” Then, thousands of miles from friends and family, she reports becoming “the closest thing to a modern day, Western slave.” With no income of her own, she had to do everything: “The lawns, the house, the cooking, the baby care, his university homework. And I didn’t know anyone. I didn’t have any support. There was no help changing diapers, there was no help waking up in the night with the baby. I’d still have to get up, to make breakfast before work. I’d be shaking and nervous, for fear I’m gonna get yelled at.” Then he’d berate her for spending all her time on tasks other than earning money: “I was told daily that I was worthless, pathetic. Deadweight. All you do is sit around and take care of the baby and do chores.” When Covid shut down all real-world public life, her situation became “hell on earth.” It was, she said, “the only time in my life where I idealised dying.” […] She thought, she told me, that “as long as I put on the high heels and the lipstick when my husband comes home, as long as I cook the best meal, as long as I’m always submissive, and say yes, sir, whatever you want, things will go fantastic.” And if it’s not fantastic? The listicle version of traditionalism would just say she should make more effort.

What?? No, you're kidding, this man acted like a toddler with a drivers license? Who could have seen that coming??

 

[The Cat]

Had to be done.
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[Quick]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788342941292859594

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788284613992804435

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788252796959019471

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1787954663830286513

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1787933871671042421

New Orleans archdiocese is target of child sex-trafficking inquiry, officials say

Louisiana state police recently served sweeping and unprecedented search warrant

www.theguardian.com

This is a secular nation. If you need or want to live in a orthodox Christian theocracy, go there.

I honestly have no idea what your point is. Is your point just, "Bad thing happen so good thing can't happen."

 

[Quick]

Kenneth Copeland has eyes like that. How anyone can believe in the possible existence of demons and not think of that man's eyes is beyond me.

Personally, I think it is that he is so in love with his money that makes him that way. Totally rotten dude.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Kenneth Copeland has eyes like that. How anyone can believe in the possible existence of demons and not think of that man's eyes is beyond me.

 

[SensEye]

Barron Trump to enter political arena as Florida delegate at GOP convention

Interesting. I thought Melania was maybe trying to keep him out of politics based on him being pretty much off limits in the prior elections (of course, he was quite young then as well). Since he has Trump's DNA in him I guess he can't resist the allure of the limelight.

 

[Quick]

This is a secular nation. If you need or want to live in a orthodox Christian theocracy, go there.

Who is arguing for a theocracy? You should probably know something about the position before you argue against it. Just saying.

 

[Quick]

I'm sure you guys have seen this but it's still funny.

 

[ceecee]

I honestly have no idea what your point is. Is your point just, "Bad thing happen so good thing can't happen."

Go back and read what you wrote. More religion is not an answer to your sex trafficking/abuse examples. Less brainwashed population that puts their children in the hands of predatory people of God, might be a better start.

 

[Quick]

Go back and read what you wrote. More religion is not an answer to your sex trafficking/abuse examples. Less brainwashed population that puts their children in the hands of predatory people of God, might be a better start.

With all due respect, you are just parroting what you have heard about religion. None of your claims about Christianity are actually true. Are there bad apples? Of course. But for the most part, religion has a positive impact on people. So you are speaking from ignorance.

 

[ceecee]

With all due respect, you are just parroting what you have heard about religion. None of your claims about Christianity are actually true. Are there bad apples? Of course. But for the most part, religion has a positive impact on people. So you are speaking from ignorance.

lol

 

[Quick]

lol

That's what the science says, bro. Meta studies have been done. They show religion is good for people. It's only the people against religion that claim that it isn't and they don't know what they are talking about.

 

[Totenkindly]

With all due respect, you are just parroting what you have heard about religion. None of your claims about Christianity are actually true. Are there bad apples? Of course. But for the most part, religion has a positive impact on people. So you are speaking from ignorance.

I am not going to waste a lot of time on this, since so much is documented and you seem reluctant to face your blind spots.

If you're into to apologetics, do you recall Ravi Zacharias who just died a few years back? Christianity Today even covered it. The guy was an internationally known author, apologist, and pastor/speaker. I wouldn't be surprised if you've read one of his books.

Ravi Zacharias Hid Hundreds of Pictures of Women, Abuse During Massages, and a Rape Allegation - Christianity Today

His ministry, preparing to downsize in the wake of a new investigation, expresses regret for “misplaced trust” in a leader who used his esteem to conceal his sexual misconduct.

www.christianitytoday.com

It's not like he's the only guy. They're not cherry-picking. This just happened and went national.

Death of SC pastor’s wife was announced to the congregation. Her story has gone national

The pastor of a Market Common church announced his wife’s death to the congregation, pointing to her mental health issues. Her family has taken to social media to shed doubt on the cause.

www.yahoo.com

They're still hashing it out, but I believe he also divorced his first wife to groom her when she was still a teen and married her, and there's a lot of details out there about the abuse reports and anecdotes.

And where have you been for the endless coverups by the Catholic church in the United States and shuffling around of unethical pastors? This has been documented over decades, with so many settlements being paid over abuse.

Just review news about the Southern Baptists over the last decade and study all the stories of women who are speaking out or trying to leave that environment. (Beth Moore might be a great place to start.) This kind of abuse is common in authoritative communities, that creates leader and servant castes.

It seems like you like to dive down certain rabbit holes, but you have no interest in such investigations that would run counter to your held beliefs. There's no need to parrot, it's just called "news" and easily found.

If you want to witness to strangers on a non-religious web site about why you're a Christian, facing up to these kinds of issues is part of that package. Otherwise no one is interested.

There are definitely well-meaning believers of various faiths out there, who live better lives, but that doesn't mean certain power structures don't encourage abuse and attract abusers. And we're seen a huge turn of evangelicalism in the US away from the message of Jesus and instead wielding politics as power and trying to make a theocracy. Revival isn't going to make things better, it will just increase the power of zealots.

 

[The Cat]

The Bible even warns about people who will do this and how believers are not to be fooled by them.
Jesus even said render unto caesar the things which are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's and that sounds like an advocacy for a speration of church and state from the man himself to me.

 

[Quick]

The Bible even warns about people who will do this and how believers are not to be fooled by them.
Jesus even said render unto caesar the things which are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's and that sounds like an advocacy for a speration of church and state from the man himself to me.

I have no problem with the separation of church and state. That is not what I am arguing for. See my prior posts. It is a movement within the people, not dominion theology or anything like it. I am not a monarchist. I am not a Christian Nationalist. I DO believe that the Holy Spirit is alive and active and influences people and groups of people. As I mentioned in that book, some of the stories in the book are striking. For example, there have been times in history when the revival was so strong, that the government had to lay off police officers because of a lack of crime.

Anyways, I am sorry to have derailed the thread. That was not my intention. But you asked and that is what led to the discussion.

 

[Vendrah]