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Red Memories

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I hate people my own age

this is why.

these people also call it the boomer remover and assume they can't die of it anyway. :happy2:

:doh:

I didn’t act that way in my late teens/early 20s. Idk how much age is even a real excuse. I think it’s more that we culturally accept this stupid, trashy behavior to begin with, so more people think it’s okay at that age to act utterly irresponsible because they’re almost expected to. Here’s a pass to be a reckless asshole, Young Adults!
 

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I didn’t act that way in my late teens/early 20s. Idk how much age is even a real excuse. I think it’s more that we culturally accept this stupid, trashy behavior to begin with, so more people think it’s okay at that age to act utterly irresponsible because they’re almost expected to. Here’s a pass to be a reckless asshole, Young Adults!

my mom and grandpa was saying something similar, how we've catered to these kind of people and not they think they can just do or live however they want without repercussions... I just wonder how this social disease happened...
 

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Called my credit card provider today as I wasn't able to work to meet my minimum payment for the month, and see if they'd offer forebearence for a while. They simply paid the minimum balance for me.

Silver linings still exist. I can sleep a little easier.

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Called my credit card provider today as I wasn't able to work to meet my minimum payment for the month, and see if they'd offer forebearence for a while. They simply paid the minimum balance for me.

Silver linings still exist. I can sleep a little easier.

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I didn’t act that way in my late teens/early 20s. Idk how much age is even a real excuse. I think it’s more that we culturally accept this stupid, trashy behavior to begin with, so more people think it’s okay at that age to act utterly irresponsible because they’re almost expected to. Here’s a pass to be a reckless asshole, Young Adults!

I was to a fairly decent extent through my mid 20's. I can only speak for myself, but it can certainly apply to a great number of young people. My reasons for this were two fold. 1. I finally had acquired freedom from my parents (father) and wanted to enjoy life without any sort of constrictions. Life had been frustrating for me with people telling me when I was younger "you can't do this, you can't do that, this isn't safe, that isn't safe", and was sick of it. So, I only relied on my own judgement of safety, and if anyone brought it into question I shirked them. Its my life so ima do what I want if it doesn't look like it would hurt anyone. 2. Because my father (an authoratarian neo-nazi) constantly belittled me for being weak, unmanly, etc. and also witnessing his definitions of what that meant, I would bristle at most things that would make me feel that way. When it came to illness, I had felt that I had a superior immune system and that I didn't need health insurance because I could just power through everything. Safety and preventive health felt unmasculine (UGH). All in all, both factors were ultimately stemming from the same core factor: ignorance born of inexperience. Trying to convince these folks to care is going to backfire. They'll either have to be left to their own devices, or forced to behave/comply for the safety of us all. I MUCH prefer the latter. Make them. They can piss and moan all they want, they'll get over it.

Young people just want to live life, and quite a few really, truly do not understand or get how serious and dangerous things can be, particularly if they are raised in an environment where safety is laughed at or viewed as an abstract concept that does't effect you. Most will outgrow this, but unfortunately now this won't happen fast enough for all of them. Most who survive will change their tune once this all blows over. It will just cost, oh idk, a few million lives in the process...
 

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French study finds anti-malarial and antibiotic combo could reduce COVID-19 duration

Beautiful graph. This drug combo killed the virus in 5 days.

The patient mix included in the study included six who showed no symptoms whatsoever, as well as 22 who had symptoms in their upper respiratory tract (things like sneezing, headaches and sore throats, and eight who showed lower respiratory tract symptoms (mostly coughing). 20 of the 30 participants in the study received treatment, and the results showed that while hydroxycholoroquine was effective on its own as a treatment, when combined with azithromycin it was even more effective, and by a significant margin.

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All we need is a larger sample size. If they still get the same results, then this "pandemic" is over.
 

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HALLEJUAH MAY THIS WORK!

I sincerely hope that hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine do not prove to be one of the more effective medications. It can have some very unplesent and serious side effects (both physical and psychiatric), some of which can be permanent. I am hoping that some of the antiviral trials prove to be close to if not more effective so we can avoid using it.

Based on the ongoing research, we will definitely find treatments for this, just not soon enough (aka now).
 

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And what are their pre-existing conditions? And since when does hospitalization = death?

Also, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. didn't need to shut down the country.... and have had little death.

Our health system won't be able to handle a huge bulk of these people at once. The big issue in Italy is they ran out of hospital beds, so they have to turn people away and those cases are dying of it without hospital care. If we do not take it seriously, we will look that bad. That's why it matters.

they also have better sanitation measures and more community orientated cultures than we do. We've got spring breakers saying WHO CARES.
 

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And what are their pre-existing conditions? And since when does hospitalization = death?

Also, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. didn't need to shut down the country.... and have had little death.

I suppose you should blame the United States government, and those in charge of it, for failure to lead then. But more directly to your point, at least in Taiwan and South Korea, the measures they took early on, thanks to a top-notch pandemic response infrastructure, allowed them to stop the spread before it got out of control. Japan is less clear, but might have been a mix of luck and preparedness, though I'm not quite sure.

I mean in some sense you're comparing apples to oranges in terms of what is necessary.

If a person gets a cut, perhaps all they need to do is wash it thoroughly and they'll be fine.

On the other hand, if they let it sit for too long and it becomes infected, they might need a more aggressive treatment. One could imagine needing to carve out tissue and stitch up the wound.

Let it alone longer still, and maybe they'll need to amputate.

Even longer, and sepsis has set in. Death is imminent.

Moving on from the analogy, there are also fundamental differences in cultures. Italy was hit so hard in part because of how social they are. Their elderly congregate and socialize much like our young (sometimes even moreso). I don't think its a coincidence that some Asian cultures have fared better. After all, it is common for them to wear masks and take other protective measures as a matter of course.

Just curious, what line of work are you in? I'd like to give myself some context for your interesting​ viewpoint. For full disclosure, I'm an actuary who specializes in health and welfare benefits.

In other news:

Two Republican senators sold shares before market tumble
 

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^^ Yes, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan took very strict measures right from *day one*. Japan is not really testing, but their public has been cooperative in wearing masks and practicing social distancing.

A lot of countries in East and Southeast Asia have been on high alert since the beginning, since they have learned from SARS and bird flu. The moment Wuhan went on lockdown, the majority of countries in Asia went "Holy ****" and large events started to get cancelled by the organizers (not governments), because no one want their name associated with 'virus hotspot'.
 

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And what are their pre-existing conditions? And since when does hospitalization = death?

Also, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. didn't need to shut down the country.... and have had little death.

I think it depends on a few factors. They might just test people more and find more mild cases. Lots of richer east Asian countries have a culture of wearing masks, so many households are likely to already have had a stockpile and there would be many times more stocked in stores etc. than in the west - so they started off with quite a few advantages. Also Taiwan & Japan are islands. It's much easier to control entry and to track the sources of infection on islands.

There's also the fact that this is an Asian virus descended from 2 or more Asian Coronavirus strains, so it wouldn't be that unexpected if some local populations would have a modicum of natural immunity vs none what so ever for western nations.
 
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Oh. My. Fuck.

Underdeveloped frontal lobe? Is that it? Is it willful ignorance borne of selfishness, or natural-born idiocy?


“If I get corona, I get corona. At the end of the day, I'm not gonna let it stop me from partying”: Spring breakers are still flocking to Miami, despite coronavirus warnings.


My brain is sore now. :sadbanana:



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Wonderful! Here’s a longer version of the video:


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One of my physical therapists who’s in her late 20s/early 30s flew to Miami last Weds. I think she’s still there. Seeing this, I do NOT want to go to that facility when she comes back if she doesn’t self quarantine at home first or something. Her ditzy ass could kill me & all the rickety old folks I see in there all the time, rehabbing.
What the flying fuck. I’m pissed.

It’s indicative of the type of people that go to spring break. They’re not exactly representative of our best and brightest. It’s akin to a 21st century Fast Times at Ridgemont High convention.
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