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Virtual ghost

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Spain's numbers seem very bad, akin to Italy. I've been eyeing them for a few days. :(



Well, both of those countries were in the economic struggle before this hit. Therefore they were slow to close the economy while cuts made sure that the healthcare system isn't fully ready. Plus both are fairly free spirit in the terms of culture and had developed economic ties with China. What altogether exploded in a mess.
 

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Yesterday I spoke with my ex who is in New Jersey. His entire household is coughing and has a runny nose. Apparently they don't test until you actually go to the hospital with respiratory issues. In New York people can't even get into hospitals when they need to in some places because they're too full. I wonder how much higher the numbers really are than what's being shown. I don't know, but it's definitely a lot higher and the situation is worse than we think. I think this is why the US is failing and why we're number one on the list...South Korea was able to be more aggressive about testing and they curved their numbers without closing shit. We, on the other hand, are closing everything while not being able to do sufficient testing and quarantine. I have a feeling that the US is going to be really bad.
South Korea has an app FluPhone that shows you if you are close to someone with coronavirus. Kinda like Pokeman, except you don't want to catch them at all. It might have been a source of help. I don't know what to think of it.

Phones Could Track the Spread of Covid-19. Is It a Good Idea? | WIRED
 

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South Korea has an app FluPhone that shows you if you are close to someone with coronavirus. Kinda like Pokeman, except you don't want to catch them at all. It might have been a source of help. I don't know what to think of it.

Phones Could Track the Spread of Covid-19. Is It a Good Idea? | WIRED
That's definitely interesting, but then...people are supposed to be in quarantine if they're sick, so to me it seems a bit pointless since they're not supposed to be out and walking around when they have it?
 

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Btw yesterday towards politico Europe had 22 000 new cases, while day before about 28 000. Therefore with any luck this is turning of the trends since various countries lately finally implemented the right measures. Fighting this with loose ends is fighting for the lost cause. Regardless of how your healthcare works.



Today only 17 000 new cases towards the same graph thus far. If tomorrow the tend continues we can say that Europe is stabilizing, at least towards the numbers at face value.
 

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Are others having food shortages?

I'm glad I'm not afraid to call around to talk to the store employees, who I feel so sorry for. One grocery store showed most of the stuff I wanted to buy in stock, for curbside pickup But the earliest time was Friday. Well, I asked if I'd actually get what I ordered and she said quite likely not because they don't even see the orders until it's a few hours from when they're to be picked up. They haven't been able to order for the store in the past few weeks - the warehouse is just sending them whatever, which has meant very little frozen food. They have no frozen vegetables, no ice cream, dairy is spotty. There's fresh produce, but with trying to buy for several weeks? I'm sure they have a lot of angry customers. I'm going to go to a different store this evening, who had told me that they have had some food left on the shelf, but if you want toilet paper, you have to be there when they open.

This isn't making sense. So everyone has to go when the stores open to buy the stuff before it's gone. Meaning there's a big crowd. Which is what we're supposed to avoid.

I'm wondering if the rest of you are having this problem or if it's because I live where... we're not as important, the flyover states, even covid tests that were ordered for us were redirected to other areas (so it appears to not be bad here, but how can they really know when people aren't tested?)
 

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Are others having food shortages?

I'm glad I'm not afraid to call around to talk to the store employees, who I feel so sorry for. One grocery store showed most of the stuff I wanted to buy in stock, for curbside pickup But the earliest time was Friday. Well, I asked if I'd actually get what I ordered and she said quite likely not because they don't even see the orders until it's a few hours from when they're to be picked up. They haven't been able to order for the store in the past few weeks - the warehouse is just sending them whatever, which has meant very little frozen food. They have no frozen vegetables, no ice cream, dairy is spotty. There's fresh produce, but with trying to buy for several weeks? I'm sure they have a lot of angry customers. I'm going to go to a different store this evening, who had told me that they have had some food left on the shelf, but if you want toilet paper, you have to be there when they open.

This isn't making sense. So everyone has to go when the stores open to buy the stuff before it's gone. Meaning there's a big crowd. Which is what we're supposed to avoid.

I'm wondering if the rest of you are having this problem or if it's because I live where... we're not as important, the flyover states, even covid tests that were ordered for us were redirected to other areas (so it appears to not be bad here, but how can they really know when people aren't tested?)

Idaho is definitely having this issue.
 

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lol. :doh: I wish this surprised me but it doesn't. These sorts of 'churches' and their followers will be the last to actually be rational. Stupidity.

As a Christian I do not claim them. :doh:
 

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:p I would at least like a week's worth. But there are NO frozen vegetables - at least not at my usual store. None. Not even a meal's worth. :(
 

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Are others having food shortages?

I'm glad I'm not afraid to call around to talk to the store employees, who I feel so sorry for. One grocery store showed most of the stuff I wanted to buy in stock, for curbside pickup But the earliest time was Friday. Well, I asked if I'd actually get what I ordered and she said quite likely not because they don't even see the orders until it's a few hours from when they're to be picked up. They haven't been able to order for the store in the past few weeks - the warehouse is just sending them whatever, which has meant very little frozen food. They have no frozen vegetables, no ice cream, dairy is spotty. There's fresh produce, but with trying to buy for several weeks? I'm sure they have a lot of angry customers. I'm going to go to a different store this evening, who had told me that they have had some food left on the shelf, but if you want toilet paper, you have to be there when they open.

This isn't making sense. So everyone has to go when the stores open to buy the stuff before it's gone. Meaning there's a big crowd. Which is what we're supposed to avoid.

I'm wondering if the rest of you are having this problem or if it's because I live where... we're not as important, the flyover states, even covid tests that were ordered for us were redirected to other areas (so it appears to not be bad here, but how can they really know when people aren't tested?)

Somewhat. I have noticed that some things that were totally gone a week ago are back in stock now like flour, sugar and eggs. There is still no toilet paper, no disinfecting wipes, not a lot of hand soap. I didn't see huge shortages of frozen foods though with the exception of frozen pizza and ice cream. Oh and there were hardly any ice cream toppings.
 

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Are others having food shortages?

I'm glad I'm not afraid to call around to talk to the store employees, who I feel so sorry for. One grocery store showed most of the stuff I wanted to buy in stock, for curbside pickup But the earliest time was Friday. Well, I asked if I'd actually get what I ordered and she said quite likely not because they don't even see the orders until it's a few hours from when they're to be picked up. They haven't been able to order for the store in the past few weeks - the warehouse is just sending them whatever, which has meant very little frozen food. They have no frozen vegetables, no ice cream, dairy is spotty. There's fresh produce, but with trying to buy for several weeks? I'm sure they have a lot of angry customers. I'm going to go to a different store this evening, who had told me that they have had some food left on the shelf, but if you want toilet paper, you have to be there when they open.

This isn't making sense. So everyone has to go when the stores open to buy the stuff before it's gone. Meaning there's a big crowd. Which is what we're supposed to avoid.

I'm wondering if the rest of you are having this problem or if it's because I live where... we're not as important, the flyover states, even covid tests that were ordered for us were redirected to other areas (so it appears to not be bad here, but how can they really know when people aren't tested?)

This does not surprise me. I went shopping last Monday, right at open, as I specifically wanted to get 2 weeks+ of meat, and was hoping for toilet paper, some canned veggies/tomatoes, and some frozen veggies. I went to meat first, and they were fully stocked. Then I went to toilet paper and got a package. Then I went to frozen veggies, and there were only 2 packages left in the entire case. Canned was almost as picked over, veggie wise, but still had some stuff, so I got a few. I also got a bag of fresh carrots, some fresh potatoes and sweet potatoes, and some onions. Eggs and dairy seemed fully stock (even shredded bags of cheese were marvelously plentiful). For myself I was to totally satisfied with these results, but then I know by afternoon people probably wouldn't have had this success. # of shoppers wasn't bad at open last week, at least the day I went. Everyone was pretty dispersed once in the store, anyway.

Edit: There were NO bleach based or disinfectant cleaning products, or pure bleach, for that matter, though. The whole cleaning aisle was virtually bare, minus all purpose natural type cleaners.

I shouldn't have to go back for another ten days at least, but by that point I'm just going to start getting fresh fruit and veggies.
 

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Edit: There were NO bleach based or disinfectant cleaning products, or pure bleach, for that matter, though. The whole cleaning aisle was virtually bare, minus all purpose natural type cleaners.

If you were within distance, I'd throw you one of my jugs of Clorox. ;)
 
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