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Help me out here. These two posts seem fundamentally incompatible. Either you think this big people machine we live in should be a fair and impartial system, or you think the weak/unfortunate SHOULD get used/chewed up/spit out in order to make the stronger/more fortunate more comfortable. (Or you're exceptionally self-absorbed enough to think we should all live in a system that's fair and impartial to you and fuck whether it's fair and impartial to everyone else, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming there's something more to understand here).

That second quote above very much sounds like you're referring to the poor schlubs who take back-breaking jobs that don't pay as much as they should, simply because they need to eat (and eating ramen every day is better than starving). It keeps them trapped in a miserable level of poverty, living paycheck to paycheck, where they never get further than worrying about how to put food on the table for the rest of the week and/or making rent. It sounds like you're calling them "disgusting and pathetic" for simply being born into circumstances that trap them in poverty at a young age, and they should basically quietly crawl into a hole and die for being so weak. Because you believe they should be able to pull themselves out of it (bootstraps and whatnot), and anyone who doesn't.... deserves what they get?

There's one important item I think is missing from your "fair and impartial system" list, and it seems to be a major hiccup in these discussions: 3) Pay me what my labor is worth, and don't exploit the fact that I'll work for far less because you have the upper hand and it's legally available. You folks on the right don't seem even remotely willing to acknowledge such a thing is possible. Even though it's literally killing people (e.g. when they can't afford medical care, back-breaking work that destroys their bodies at a young age), and/or keeping people trapped in a remarkably substandard quality of life. Studies have proven that the human brain can't effectively strategize/plan for the future when it's constantly already exhausted by scarcity. The psychology of scarcity. The Scarcity Mindset: How does being poor change the way we feel and think? The Science of Scarcity.



And you people on the right, it's like you stick your fingers in your ears at this point and "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA THEY'RE NOT TRAPPED HAVEN'T READ THE STUDIES, NO NEED TO, DOESN'T CONFIRM WHAT I BELIEVE LA LA." <- That's you guys. It's like dealing with flat-earthers. As long as there are enough of you out there chanting this back and forth at each other, you can continue to believe it. Or something. But that doesn't make the belief true. The fact that there are people living that way doesn't change just because a bunch of people refuse to believe it's true. The affect of scarcity on the human mind has been thoroughly researched.

Another thing that's confusing though is that you're calling them the "takers". Walmart pays their employees so little that they require government assistance. The owners, the Walton Family, pull in millions of dollars every hour. Are you telling me this is from their "hard work" - that they spend every single hour they're pulling in millions working "really hard" - and that the people who work for them (whose labor earns them that money) are the "takers" because they receive government assistance? This is why Bernie et al keep calling it corporate socialism - the government is helping pay for the labor that rakes in money for people like the Waltons. Back-breaking jobs - like at the Amazon warehouse - put people on disability before retirement age; the government is helping pay for Jeff Bezos' income. And yet you don't perceive people like the Waltons or Bezos as the "takers"?

I'd be happy to help you out. Assuming you're one of the leftists, we likely do not have the same definition of 'fair.' For the sake of (avoiding) argument, lets just pretend I didn't use that word at all, and just stick to the later in that sentence- 'impartial,' or better yet 'indifferent.' The same system that entire rest of the planet and animal kingdom abide in. I believe in individuals, not a 'big machine of people.' Thinking of millions of individuals in terms like that is how INTJ movie villains are made. People who want to control other people are not people I find endearing, worth looking up to, or happy. I prefer to focus my will to control things on things in which that is actually possible, and recommend this practice in general for everyone for the sake of their mental health- which essentially just comes down to worldview. If you don't understand why people on the right are the way they are, and navigate life with the principals and disciplines that they do, I don't think you quite understand it. Most of us are brutal logicians, and just because we couldn't care less about the same things people on the left care about, doesn't make us 'flat earthers' about those things. As an INTP I get systems- truly- I get how people on the left feel: that for society to work everyone needs to work together; every individual needs to work for the group- or in more moderate leftist circles the group and the individual. I can see the same 'big machine' that you see- and all of the endless bottlenecks, weak points, broken parts, overcharged parts, neglected parts, etc- but in the great chess game of life I am not interested in touching that rook. It's one pawn forward at a time for me.

Also, what are these back breaking jobs that don't pay bank?

Also, who says you have to work for anyone but the customer?

I'd say more, but I have to run.
 

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Those who claim to want 'merit-based' income are flat out lying.

Some 20-something, douchebag working at a starter company where he rolls into work around 9 or 10 am, sends a few E-mails, goes to lunch at some $100 dollar a plate restaurant steak and lobster restaurant to schmooz people even richer than himself, goes back to 'work' for about an hour where he sits at his desk doing nothing but talking up some product he doesn't even work on then clocks out around four thirty everyday is paid $250k a yr, plus the best health insurgence-including dental, gets 3 square meals a day-free., discounts at every gym and restaurant in town, free public transportation-which he doesn't use because since he has NO expenses he just bought whatever douchebag vehicle he wanted- but he doesn't have to worry about toll roads because of the little sticker on his car that work gave him. Three weeks paid vacation, unlimited health/mental health days, which go real well with his hotel travel discounts. And best of all, an extra $4k for every new, entitled, resource-consuming, squalling little brat he brings into the world.

You think this is fine.

But some poor slob busting their ass at two or three minimum wage jobs where they have no say in their schedule and often work overtime without pay, and you also think that is fine.

Society tells you the former is more valuable than the later, against all basic reasoning and you just go with it. Who's the real 'sheeple' My God, I never thought I'd use that word after age 15 again)

Admit that 'merit- based' just means 'me and mine' you think you DESERVE more money because you think YOU'RE good people. (Or "Alpha's" or whatever dumbass MRA wording you want to use.) meanwhile THEY, people you don't like-regardless of how hard they actually work-do not deserve anything simply because they are not on your side.

It is nothing more than the age-old concept of 'us v them' been around since the caveman days. Proof that as a species humans really have not evolved much at all. Rather, most haven't.
I appreciate your comments here and agree with your point of view. Very telling that they have received little reply. There is no good argument to the points you are making.
 

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Help me out here. These two posts seem fundamentally incompatible. Either you think this big people machine we live in should be a fair and impartial system, or you think the weak/unfortunate SHOULD get used/chewed up/spit out in order to make the stronger/more fortunate more comfortable. (Or you're exceptionally self-absorbed enough to think we should all live in a system that's fair and impartial to you and fuck whether it's fair and impartial to everyone else, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming there's something more to understand here).

That second quote above very much sounds like you're referring to the poor schlubs who take back-breaking jobs that don't pay as much as they should, simply because they need to eat (and eating ramen every day is better than starving). It keeps them trapped in a miserable level of poverty, living paycheck to paycheck, where they never get further than worrying about how to put food on the table for the rest of the week and/or making rent. It sounds like you're calling them "disgusting and pathetic" for simply being born into circumstances that trap them in poverty at a young age, and they should basically quietly crawl into a hole and die for being so weak. Because you believe they should be able to pull themselves out of it (bootstraps and whatnot), and anyone who doesn't.... deserves what they get?

There's one important item I think is missing from your "fair and impartial system" list, and it seems to be a major hiccup in these discussions: 3) Pay me what my labor is worth, and don't exploit the fact that I'll work for far less because you have the upper hand and it's legally available. You folks on the right don't seem even remotely willing to acknowledge such a thing is possible. Even though it's literally killing people (e.g. when they can't afford medical care, back-breaking work that destroys their bodies at a young age), and/or keeping people trapped in a remarkably substandard quality of life. Studies have proven that the human brain can't effectively strategize/plan for the future when it's constantly already exhausted by scarcity. The psychology of scarcity. The Scarcity Mindset: How does being poor change the way we feel and think? The Science of Scarcity.



And you people on the right, it's like you stick your fingers in your ears at this point and "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA THEY'RE NOT TRAPPED HAVEN'T READ THE STUDIES, NO NEED TO, DOESN'T CONFIRM WHAT I BELIEVE LA LA." <- That's you guys. It's like dealing with flat-earthers. As long as there are enough of you out there chanting this back and forth at each other, you can continue to believe it. Or something. But that doesn't make the belief true. The fact that there are people living that way doesn't change just because a bunch of people refuse to believe it's true. The affect of scarcity on the human mind has been thoroughly researched.

Another thing that's confusing though is that you're calling them the "takers". Walmart pays their employees so little that they require government assistance. The owners, the Walton Family, pull in millions of dollars every hour. Are you telling me this is from their "hard work" - that they spend every single hour they're pulling in millions working "really hard" - and that the people who work for them (whose labor earns them that money) are the "takers" because they receive government assistance? This is why Bernie et al keep calling it corporate socialism - the government is helping pay for the labor that rakes in money for people like the Waltons. Back-breaking jobs - like at the Amazon warehouse - put people on disability before retirement age; the government is helping pay for Jeff Bezos' income. And yet you don't perceive people like the Waltons or Bezos as the "takers"?

In my experience, it's really just a myopic lack of perspective.

One of my best friends is a conservative ( Though not as much as to she pretends to be.)

She likes to complain about the 'welfare state' I reminder her that I receive government assistance and she said what most do " yeah, but you're different. You try REALLY HARD and you have genuine problems!" Thing is, I'm not different ( from some maybe) there are so many people out there like me. There are also some people who take advantage and I assure you, I hate them more than anyone for making it impossible for the rest of us to be heard.

It's really an issue of the media/news that they watch telling them the same stigmatized stories over and over about the lying freeloader, the one's who are perfectly fit to work but instead lie so that they do not have to. Imagine if you had to work two back-breaking jobs to make barely enough to pay rent in your garbage, broken-down one bedroom apartment surrounded by drug dealers, and then you hear about people who live well by gaming the system.
I imagine, that you would feel quite cheated too.

Not that I think it's an excuse for their ignorance. I think it is, or should be, common sense that such sweeping generalizations are never correct. People in favor of government programs are for some reason more aware of what they don't know, are less likely to assume they know everyone's situation. While the rest for whatever reason are completely blind to any sort of circumstance which they themselves have never experienced. i find this to be a pattern of of Republican/conservative thinking across the board.

'If you have an abortion, your an irresponsible slut, because I've never known anyone to have a child out of circumstances beyond their control" ergo, it never happens.
"There is no such thing as 'asylum'. If you're afraid of drug cartels, don't join them" In other words, I've never been in a situation where I've been forced to join a gang against my will. It doesn't happen.
" I was not born with a disability before I ever had the chance to to work and pay taxes to earn social security." It definitely doesn't happen and anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
ect ect It's nothing but pure ignorance and lack of willingness to learn.

Meanwhile most, not all, Democrats or others who believe in public assistance understand that " It definitely happens and thank God I have never had to experience it myself."."

I know i've shared my own experience trying to make a life for myself many times and it's been completely ignored so yes, it is very much " LA LALA I can't hear you." Listening might pop their little bubble of the 'just world' they pretend to live in.
 
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"Growing up I always felt like I was living on the other side of the tracks. I knew the people on the other side had more resources, more money, happier families. And for some reason, I don't know why or how, I wanted to climb over that fence and achieve something beyond what people were saying was possible." Starbucks founder Howard Schultz grew up in a housing complex for the poor.

Billionaires who came from nothing - Business Insider
 

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One example of an unhealthy mindset is the scarcity mindset. The scarcity mindset views things like wealth, success, and fame as something like a pie. There’s only so much to go around and if one person takes too big of a slice, everyone else gets less.

In this worldview, Bill Gates is inherently evil, regardless of how much good that he has done for society, regardless of how much he has helped others, both through his products and through his foundation. He’s evil because he took too big of a slice and didn’t leave enough for the rest of us.

To whatever extent you find yourself resenting rich and successful people, you have a scarcity mindset. If you have a scarcity mindset, you will find it hard to collaborate with others because their gains are your losses.

17 Surprising Mindset Differences Between People who are Rich and People Who Are Broke
 

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"Growing up I always felt like I was living on the other side of the tracks. I knew the people on the other side had more resources, more money, happier families. And for some reason, I don't know why or how, I wanted to climb over that fence and achieve something beyond what people were saying was possible." Starbucks founder Howard Schultz grew up in a housing complex for the poor.

Billionaires who came from nothing - Business Insider


You're posting with the assumption that being a billionaire is THE goal for the majority of people and if you don't want to be there is something wrong with you and that's definitely your own fault 100%. lol at the constant banging on that self made drum tho.
 

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You're posting with the assumption that being a billionaire is THE goal for the majority of people and if you don't want to be there is something wrong with you and that's definitely your own fault 100%. lol at the constant banging on that self made drum tho.




That even isn't the biggest flaw of what you quoted. My place has very "socialistic" economy and we still have very rich people which have become rich based on their skills and influence/charisma.
 

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You're posting with the assumption that being a billionaire is THE goal for the majority of people and if you don't want to be there is something wrong with you and that's definitely your own fault 100%. lol at the constant banging on that self made drum tho.

You are posting with that assumption. If that's all you got from the posts, you failed. Miserably.
 

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Those who claim to want 'merit-based' income are flat out lying.

Some 20-something, douchebag working at a starter company where he rolls into work around 9 or 10 am, sends a few E-mails, goes to lunch at some $100 dollar a plate restaurant steak and lobster restaurant to schmooz people even richer than himself, goes back to 'work' for about an hour where he sits at his desk doing nothing but talking up some product he doesn't even work on then clocks out around four thirty everyday is paid $250k a yr, plus the best health insurgence-including dental, gets 3 square meals a day-free., discounts at every gym and restaurant in town, free public transportation-which he doesn't use because since he has NO expenses he just bought whatever douchebag vehicle he wanted- but he doesn't have to worry about toll roads because of the little sticker on his car that work gave him. Three weeks paid vacation, unlimited health/mental health days, which go real well with his hotel travel discounts. And best of all, an extra $4k for every new, entitled, resource-consuming, squalling little brat he brings into the world.

You think this is fine.

But some poor slob busting their ass at two or three minimum wage jobs where they have no say in their schedule and often work overtime without pay, and you also think that is fine.

Society tells you the former is more valuable than the later, against all basic reasoning and you just go with it. Who's the real 'sheeple' My God, I never thought I'd use that word after age 15 again)

Admit that 'merit- based' just means 'me and mine' you think you DESERVE more money because you think YOU'RE good people. (Or "Alpha's" or whatever dumbass MRA wording you want to use.) meanwhile THEY, people you don't like-regardless of how hard they actually work-do not deserve anything simply because they are not on your side.

It is nothing more than the age-old concept of 'us v them' been around since the caveman days. Proof that as a species humans really have not evolved much at all. Rather, most haven't.

It might help if you didn't have a chip on your shoulder about a certain type of person. Your language ("20-something douchebag...") shows your hand here.

Not everyone in that type of job just coasts in to work and is paid bank for doing nothing. Regarding start-ups, look at Jobs and Gates. Both busted their ass. It's true Jobs used a lot of people to get his visions realized, but he didn't just sit on his ass all day either. On the other hand, a lot of the people who helped Jobs realize his vision may have gone nowhere without him marshalling the troops. Steve Wozniak was happy to be a hobbyist until Jobs brought him on board. Without Steve Jobs, it's likely he would have continued slaving for Hewlett Packard and no one would know his name today.

I'm speaking as someone who has worked around both back-breaking, low paid workers and around high paid executives. I don't think those low paid, low skill jobs are particularly fair and I think we could pay those people better, nor do I think all conservatives and social darwinists are correct if they see those people as less valuable or human waste or something beneath them, but on the other hand, there's a lot of people in well paid white collar jobs who did in fact bust their assess to get there and do have to show results and prove they're not just twiddling their thumbs. Retaining people in those types of positions can be especially difficult, due to often long hours and heaps of mental stress, so it's necessary to pay them high when they actually merit that high pay by performing well and not bailing. The CEO of the company who owns my company didn't succeed by doing what you speak of. He worked around the clock and his company started out as a startup. He still works very long hours, often spending more time away from his wife and kids as he'd like to, as it involves a lot of travel.

Just food for thought. You call out one point of view for oversimplifying certain types of people, but then proceed to oversimplify another type of person in your own rant summation of your point of view.


Work a day in product management, supply chain, project management, etc, before making the sort of generalizations you made here. None of these fields are eay. Sure, some people get into them with connections and get by not doing much work, but usually it's the case that these are very stressful, draining jobs with long hours, and often require the people to take a good chunk of the stress or work home with them. More often than not, the guys like you describe don't last long in such jobs if they are unable to show results. And regarding startups, they too fail, and the guys like you describe tend to see their startups fail when they run them the way you describe. It's also often the case with startups that the people who run them basically work 24-7. They make the connections and go through all of the meeting and greeting involved in seeking funds and getting things operating smoothly. Sometimes their "work hours" when they show up at the office during 9-5 hours are the most relaxation they see, particularly in the early stages of the startup business. And a lot of those long lunches will be spent having to schmooze with financiers and try to sell their products to potential customers. That's some exhausting shit right there.

It's often people who've never worked in white collar jobs assuming they're easy street positions. I say this as someone having worked blue collar physical labor in 110 degree, un-air conditioned warehouses and white collar jobs in air conditioned offices. Each has its own set of challenges and stresses. I do think the job I have now deserves higher pay than the manual labor jobs I held before. On the other hand, I think the manual labor jobs I held should've been better paying positions. But I do think some disparity here is logical, just not to the degree some conservative may think is fair.


To clarify, I do believe in merit-based pay, I just tend to also align with liberals and socialists in agreeing that those in low pay jobs are also worth a lot more than many conservatives think they're worth. However, I don't really agree with the attitude many of them take towards high earning white collar workers either.
I think both sides are wrong for different reasons.

I also have little love for inherited millionaires like Trump who speak as though they are self-made. But there's a lot of entrpreneurs and businesspeople who do in fact come from nothing and bust their assess. Don't lump them in with the guys like Trump. It just reveals your own classist thinking.
 

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It might help if you didn't have a chip on your shoulder about a certain type of person. Your language ("20-something douchebag...") shows your hand here.

Not everyone in that type of job just coasts in to work and is paid bank for doing nothing. I'm speaking as someone who has worked around both back-breaking, low paid workers and around high paid executives. I don't think those low paid, low skill jobs are particularly fair and I think we could pay those people better, nor do I think all conservatives and social darwinists are correct if they see those people as less valuable or human waste or something beneath them, but on the other hand, there's a lot of people in well paid white collar jobs who did in fact bust their assess to get there and do have to show results and prove they're not just twiddling their thumbs. Retaining people in those types of positions can be especially difficult, due to often long hours and heaps of mental stress, so it's necessary to pay them high when they actually merit that high pay by performing well and not bailing.

Just food for thought. You call out one point of view for oversimplifying certain types of people, but then proceed to oversimplify another type of person in your own rant summation of your point of view.


Work a day in product management, supply chain, project management, etc, before making the sort of generalizations you made here. None of these fields are eay. Sure, some people get into them with connections and get by not doing much work, but usually it's the case that these are very stressful, draining jobs with long hours, and often require the people to take a good chunk of the stress or work home with them. More often than not, the guys like you describe don't last long in such jobs if they are unable to show results.

It's often people who've never worked in white collar jobs assuming they're easy street positions. I say this as someone having worked blue collar physical labor in 110 degree, un-air conditioned warehouses and white collar jobs in air conditioned offices. Each has its own set of challenges and stresses. I do think the job I have now deserves higher pay than the manual labor jobs I held before. On the other hand, I think the manual labor jobs I held should've been better paying positions. But I do think some disparity here is logical, just not to the degree some conservative may think is fair.


To clarify, I do believe in merit-based pay, I just tend to also align with liberals and socialists in agreeing that those in low pay jobs are also worth a lot more than many conservatives think they're worth. However, I don't really agree with the attitude many of them take towards high earning white collar workers either.
I think both sides are wrong for different reasons.

I'm not assuming anything. I never said 'everyone who works in tech or any X job'. I said 'the people who have these jobs' that includes only those people who do exist. And yes, all jobs have stresses. You think those have jobs have $250k gran worth of stresses while the later is barely minimum wage?

And thanks for prove ring my earlier point " I think all the jobs I have ever held deserve better pay" again. ME. I deserve.

Gonna be honest, I don't have anything to say (Let alone prove or justify) to someone who just posted an entire thread comparing their common, well understood, accepted and accommodated social disorder to an actually debilitating or life-threatening disease and whining about how it's SOOO hard to live with. Hey, if you can't hack it you're going to get eaten right? ( Look! I don't coddle either!)
 

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I'm not assuming anything. I never said 'everyone who works in tech or any X job'. I said 'the people who have these jobs' that includes those people who do exist. My best friend has worked with them for decades.

Gonna be honest, I don't have anything to say (Let alone prove or justify) to someone who just posted an entire thread comparing their common, well understood, accepted and accommodated social disorder to an actually debilitating or life-threatening disease and whining about how it's SOOO hard to live with. Hey, if you can't hack it you're going to get eaten right? ( Look! I don't coddle either!)

I wasn't being hostile to you, so I don't understand your hostility here, nor do I understand why you have to bring up an unrelated thread about a condition when it's pretty clear from your words about it that you have no idea what you're talking about. That's an ad hominem and you'll be reported for it. Nor did I spend that "entire" thread comparing it to a life threatening disease. I simply spoke of the struggles from the perspective of someone with that condition. Didn't say it was just as bad as whatever condition you're saying I compared it to.

Nor did I argue that I agree with that laissez-faire attitude common among certain Republicans. If you'd actually read my post you'd see where I took issue with them and their attitudes toward the working poor.

Was simply trying to have a discussion with you. To be fair, you're the person who started out the gate with generalizations and an attitude regarding a certain archetype you obviously loathe. Don't be mad at me for simply pointing out what you did. And if I overgeneralized in my reply, then apologies.

Your knees are sore from all the kneejerking?
 

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Oh but you were, claiming 'all democrats are lazy/irresponsible and that we should 'die in a ditch'. That's not an ad homonym? Report it, it will only prove you can't take what you dish out.
 

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Oh but you were, claiming 'all democrats are lazy/irresponsible and that we should 'die in a ditch'. That's not an ad homonym? Report it, it will only prove you can't take what you dish out.

Yeah that wasn't me talking about democrats being lazy or wishing death in a ditch or whatever (maybe you're thinking tellenbach or anticlimactic?). You're obviously confusing me with a different member. Maybe be more careful in who you reply to with what you write if you can't even be bothered to know who or what you're replying to.
 

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You were the one who said 'all democrats are irresponsible/lazy' and the 'weak' should 'die ina ditch' if that is not a very broadly based ad homonyms I do not know what is.
But sure, report me. It'll only prove you can't handle what you dish out.
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You were the one who said 'all democrats are irresponsible/lazy' and the 'weak' should 'die ina ditch' if that is not a very broadly based ad homonyms I do not know what is. But sure, report me. It'll only prove you can't handle what you dish out. No, they hurt from multiple surgeries to put them in the correct place after being deformed from years of rickets. But thanks for your concern.
That was me homie, though our names do both start with A so don't beat yourself up.
 

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Yeah that wasn't me talking about democrats being lazy or wishing death in a ditch or whatever (maybe you're thinking tellenbach or anticlimactic?). You're obviously confusing me with a different member. Maybe be more careful in who you reply to with what you write if you can't even be bothered to know who or what you're replying to.

Hm. Then I apologize and resend my accusations for that misunderstanding. I really don't see well. I was even pretty sure I dbl checked but I guess I was wrong. I will be more careful in the future...and maybe loo into actual prescription glasses.

That was me homie, though our names do both start with A so don't beat yourself up.

I wont, but I will be REALLY sure in the future.

Anyway, I do stand by my other point that one, I'm not making assumptions. I know people who do have those jobs and that I do not assume it is 'all white collar jobs'. But, if 'all jobs have their stress' why does why pay such a grotesquely larger income?
 

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You were the one who said 'all democrats are irresponsible/lazy' and the 'weak' should 'die ina ditch' if that is not a very broadly based ad homonyms I do not know what is.
But sure, report me. It'll only prove you can't handle what you dish out.
No, they hurt from multiple surgeries to put them in the correct place after being deformed from years of rickets. But thanks for your concern.

No, I didn't write that. If you can show where I wrote that, quote it. I haven't deleted any recent posts from this thread either.
 
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Doctor Cringelord

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Hm. Then I apologize and resend my for accusations for that misunderstanding. I really don't see well. I was even pretty sure I dbl checked but I guess I was wrong. I will be more careful in the future.



I wont, but I will be more careful in the future.

I apologize if I got you bent out of shape. Didn't know about your vision issues. Also, I never tried to compare autism to life threatening illnesses. I did mention other handicapped/differently abled people in that thread but I wasn't trying to say high functioning autistics face the exact same challenges.

I still think it was kind of shitty to bring that autism thread up, but considering your misunderstanding and confusing me with Anti, I can understand why you did that.

Let's fistbump and start over.
 

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I apologize if I got you bent out of shape. Didn't know about your vision issues. Also, I never tried to compare autism to life threatening illnesses. I did mention other handicapped/differently abled people in that thread but I wasn't trying to say high functioning autistics face the exact same challenges.

I still think it was kind of shitty to bring that autism thread up, but considering your misunderstanding and confusing me with Anti, I can understand why you did that.

Let's fistbump and start over.

It was shitty. I really wouldn't 'go there' under any other context.

Yes. I agree. :yes:


That was me homie, though our names do both start with A so don't beat yourself up.

I wont, but I will be REALLY sure in the future.



Anyway, I do stand by my point that one, I'm not making assumptions. I know people who do have those jobs and that I am not one to generalize. I know very well that not a lot 'all white collar jobs are like that. But, if 'all jobs have their stress' why does why pay such a grotesquely larger income? And I guess, my real problem is less the paycheck and more the benefits and discounts.
My friends and I often joke that "The only people who make enough money to live hear do not have to pay for anything."

And that itself, is one of-if not THE biggest stress about low income service jobs-is that they do not have the benefit of free or discounted anything.
 
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