I typically find they use fire to symbolize change, purification, tempering, forging, creation, great change, sometimes violent and extreme change, but I don't think it implies destructive. The human obsession with fire is often billed as foolish and ultimately destructive, but the onus is on the fire bug and not the fire. Typically not gendered or billed with aspects of both.
I'm thinking about, for insistence, in Tolkien's work, the Vala Aule, whose Maiar tend to be corrupted. There is also the pop culture conception of hell as a place full of flames. Of course, looked at in a certain light, the sun and stars are also flame, and this means that fire is life-giving as well. I'm considering having "Fire" to have any affinity with reptiles, even, but that might be too Harry Potter.
Water is more subjective and much like its physical aspects, metaphorically it flows to take the shape of its container. Water is often billed as a source of life, patient and relentless, yet rushing and meandering. Graceful tranquility, mysterious depth, dangerous, willful, and keeper of secrets. Typically personified as feminine with regards to the sea, yet can be masculine or feminine with reference to rivers and lakes.
There is a boulevard in Philadelphia called the Benjamin Franklin Parkway. It terminates in the art museum, which is where the famous Rocky (haven't seen this film so I'm not responsible for what's in it, I'm just trying to help people picture this) steps are. There is a fountain with statues meant to represent the larger rivers and streams. One is personified as male; I believe that would be the Delaware river.
Whether one would be water or fire, depends on the specifics of the "fall" aye and even if it were properly a fall, and not more of a dive.
I'd argue than Anakin didnt fall so much as dive, even ben solo sort of just jumped in with both feet. You see more of the "fall" in some of the book series, most notably the Jedi Academy Trilogy by Kevin J Anderson. You can experience it in some of the games depending on how you play them. You definitely see it in the old First Sith, and Pre Sith stories when the jedi were still allowed to be written as just regular people who learn to use the force and become knights with laser swords, but not have to pretend to be celibate monks. yeah then you got organic falls. Otherwise it seems like folk just reached their Fuck it, I'm going for it moment, however it may manifest
That's true with Anakin in the prequels, certainly.
the crystal metaphor might work, but it would need the aspect of does removing the color from the crystal truly purify it, or does it simply drain it of what made it special? I'm assuming that's going to feature in the series your reading soon enough. Regarding the books. I didnt get past Chewie. I should maybe change that next year if we're still allowed to read books.
But come come, tell your ol pal the Cat, tell us, what made you think of the metaphore in your post? Im fascinated and wish to know more.
Let me clarify: I'm not reading any Star Wars books now. This is about my fanfiction, which rips off elements I like from both canon and legends. I sometimes retain names as placeholders. I have the canon characters as basic templates but I want to do different things with them. The female was abandoned by her parents as a girl and is now an eccentric Jedi Master who prefers to work on her own. The male is a stormtrooper who becomes a jedi. The two become great friends with a powerful bond but the male joins the dark side, only to be redeemed in the final film. I'm quixotically trying to improve on both the sequel and the prequel trilogy.
I think the hardest thing is handling how and why Water/Finn joins to the dark side. I want that element of tragedy, but I ultimately want a happy ending that's not
Redemption Equals Death. I don't know how I can pull that off.
The Fire/Water/Crystal thing is not just a metaphor. It reflects the force abilities of these characters and how they see and conceptualize the Force, their philosophies and nature as Jedi/Sith, so to speak. I'm stealing that from Light of the Jedi.
Last night I was doing my laundry and thinking about how in an outline I made not that long ago, I described these characters as having unique force abilities that reflected, echoed, or complemented each other that nobody else could do. That was another placeholder. I didn't know how to get at specifics. Then I started thinking about the elements; I liked how they symbolized power, power that was potentially uncontrollable . I liked water and fire, but I didn't want the implication that water could extinguish fire.
Later I decided that having fire as male and water as female was a cliche, and that it would be more interesting to do it the other way around. I want this story to inspire hope, though. Jyn/Fire is intended to represent a powerful flame illuminating the galaxy, though she fears losing the galaxy. She will perhaps have to make tough choices that force her to grapple with these fears.
Darth Cadeus/Jacen Solo/Ben Solo isn't a Vader fanboy, but a Palpatine fanboy. He sees Vader as weak, who didn't have the strength to commit to the path he had chosen. Removing the impurities doesn't actually make it better. Consider an amythest, which I would consider beautiful. That purple color is only present because of impurities. Maybe he has come to see the Jedi as a source of impurities in the Force that need to be removed from it, for not fitting into his ordered vision, and for permitting disorder (multiple persepectives other than just one). This could also be integrated with the concept of Kyber crystals.
I have a few E-books, but most of them are physical (I have too much, really). Let them come and take them.
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