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I just wanted something with heroic Jedi. That's why I liked the early episodes. That show had one job.
A cynical part of me thinks it did exactly what it set out to do. Alienate the fanbase who got them there and sucker in a new one that was willing to let them get away with any old thing including space campfires and sing their praises, never questioning why if they decannonized the old eu, do they keep feeding body after body of work into the wood chipper and try to pass the sausage of the past as the new gormet menu of tomorrow... I know the terrible secret of the star wars galaxy no one likes to think about anymore. Blue Milk is people. Blue Milk is People!

In all seriousness. Its crazy to me how little the fanbase actually asks for. Good writing, stop killing off the old to make room for the new, stop following the jerry springer like antics of the skywalker clan, and dont put a skittles gang of industry plants in one of the most lawless frontier planets in the outer rim and try to convince me theyre not some hutts sex slaves working the corner.

And yet. Space campfire. Stone that burns like oil soaked wood.
 
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A cynical part of me thinks it did exactly what it set out to do. Alienate the fanbase who got them there and sucker in a new one that was willing to let them get away with any old thing including space campfires and sing their praises, never questioning why if they decannonized the old eu, do they keep feeding body after body of work into the wood chipper and try to pass the sausage of the past as the new gormet menu of tomorrow... I know the terrible secret of the star wars galaxy no one likes to think about anymore. Blue Milk is people. Blue Milk is People!

In all seriousness. Its crazy to me how little the fanbase actually asks for. Good writing, stop killing off the old to make room for the new, stop following the jerry springer like antics of the skywalker clan, and dont put a skittles gang of industry plants in one of the most lawless frontier planets in the outer rim and try to convince me theyre not some hutts sex slaves working the corner.

And yet. Space campfire. Stone that burns like oil soaked wood.
When you say space campfire, I think of Star Trek V. I thought the Yosemite scenes were good, actually. It was neat to see them hanging out in their spare time.

I don't remember a star wars space campfire, really.

I think they just don't care. They rely on the fact that there will be asses in seats no matter what and don't worry about anything else.
 

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When you say space campfire, I think of Star Trek V. I thought the Yosemite scenes were good, actually. It was neat to see them hanging out in their spare time.

I don't remember a star wars space campfire, really.

I think they just don't care. They rely on the fact that there will be asses in seats no matter what and don't worry about anything else.
 

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When you say space campfire, I think of Star Trek V. I thought the Yosemite scenes were good, actually. It was neat to see them hanging out in their spare time.
Lol. That was the bit I hated the most and I still think of it with total derision. I can't remember anything else from the film really aside from "Why does God need a spaceship?" It made me really pull back from Star Trek films.


I think they just don't care. They rely on the fact that there will be asses in seats no matter what and don't worry about anything else.
Yeah, it's like Bezos and Amazon. he doesn't care if you cancel your subscription to the Post. All that will matter is if a huge portion (30-50%) of the Amazon customer pool cancels Prime.

People bitch about Disney but they still pay monthly prices for Disney +.
 

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Lol. That was the bit I hated the most and I still think of it with total derision. I can't remember anything else from the film really aside from "Why does God need a spaceship?" It made me really pull back from Star Trek films.



Yeah, it's like Bezos and Amazon. he doesn't care if you cancel your subscription to the Post. All that will matter is if a huge portion (30-50%) of the Amazon customer pool cancels Prime.

People bitch about Disney but they still pay monthly prices for Disney +.
I remember the feather dance in the desert. I was five. The movie terrified me with bright flashes and loud noises, the campfire scenes and the feather scenes were like liferafts of quiet dimness in a cacophony of sensory overload. That feather scene though changed me.
 
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I remember the feather dance in the desert. I was five. The movie terrified me with bright flashes and loud noises, the campfire scenes and the feather scenes were like liferafts of quiet dimness in a cacophony of sensory overload. That feather scene though changed me.
There's the cat stripper who is thrown into water and yowls. The movie is this weird slapstick comedy in parts. Maybe because IV had a lot of humor in it, they felt they had to include it.
 
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I didn't even notice.

Can I talk about how much I hate the cavalry attack on the Star Destroyer in ROS though? I don't think anybody other than JJ wanted to see that. I know I did not want the a battle that primarily features horses galloping on a space ship. I wanted the Battle of Endor on crack. If I got that, I would give the movie a pass for all of the other dumb things. (It was a very low bar; these were generous terms.) Instead, we got this cowboy bullshit.
 

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I didn't even notice.

Can I talk about how much I hate the cavalry attack on the Star Destroyer in ROS though? I don't think anybody other than JJ wanted to see that. I know I did not want the a battle that primarily features horses galloping on a space ship. I wanted the Battle of Endor on crack. If I got that, I would give the movie a pass for all of the other dumb things. (It was a very low bar; these were generous terms.) Instead, we got this cowboy bullshit.
You got it. Horses charging down an almost vertical metal surface with no mention of magnetic horse shoes...they should have used riding lizards if they wanted to have a skitter skulk scene. Crack is whack.
 
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You got it. Horses charging down an almost vertical metal surface with no mention of magnetic horse shoes...they should have used riding lizards if they wanted to have a skitter skulk scene. Crack is whack.
Lizards or serpents or fast turtles would have made me hate it less, because it would have been much weirder.
 
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Yes, it was the wrong producer. If you've ever watched a BTS documentary or listened to a commentary track for one of the prequels, it's clear that Rick McCallum was incapable of or unwilling to say no. He's an obvious example of the sort of "yes man" Gary Kurtz was critical of.
 

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‘Star Wars’ Trilogy Deal: Lucasfilm Taps Simon Kinberg To Write & Produce

I'm sure this is going to be great. Their insistence on tying it to the Skywalker name, because that's what's important, fills me with great confidence.
Yeah, I responded on a Facebook post about this yesterday:

Simon Kinberg?
You mean, "Dark Phoenix" Kinberg?
You mean, "X-Men Apocalypse" Kinberg?
You mean "Fantastic Four (2015)" Kinberg?

Yeah, this will be spectacular shit.

Maybe Disney is just trying to kill off Star Wars once and for all, to claim another massive tax deduction for something.

My understanding is that the guy is liked by his crew, typically, but man -- aside from maybe some early stuff he's written, for the last 10+ years what he creates is not even just average, it's like total shite.
 

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Yeah, I responded on a Facebook post about this yesterday:

Simon Kinberg?
You mean, "Dark Phoenix" Kinberg?
You mean, "X-Men Apocalypse" Kinberg?
You mean "Fantastic Four (2015)" Kinberg?

Yeah, this will be spectacular shit.

Maybe Disney is just trying to kill off Star Wars once and for all, to claim another massive tax deduction for something.

My understanding is that the guy is liked by his crew, typically, but man -- aside from maybe some early stuff he's written, for the last 10+ years what he creates is not even just average, it's like total shite.
It's like recently being born with the collected pop culture knowledge of the entire 1990's only to discover the person who's gonna be doing your Brit Milah is Lorena Bobbit.

I genuinely wonder if this guy likes comic books or if he's settling some ancient blood feud with all the things I love.
 

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‘Star Wars’ Trilogy Deal: Lucasfilm Taps Simon Kinberg To Write & Produce

I'm sure this is going to be great. Their insistence on tying it to the Skywalker name, because that's what's important, fills me with great confidence.
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Ive had this rant before, but screw it i need a distraction from reality for a moment:

I don't think I will ever get excited about Star Wars again, until they do a space Montel series featuring Star Wars Characters, because the Skywalkers have got to be the most fucked up and dysfunctional families in the entire galaxy. There are Hutts who have more stable families. And they often eat their dissapointing or overly ambitious children. OR I want a mockumentary about how bad for the galaxy the Skywalker family is.

The dad comes from a single parent home in a bad neighborhood, he gets sold into slavery, then gets put up as a bet, brought into an organization establishment that tells him they don't like him, they don't trust him, but apparently he's the chosen one in some unspecified ancient prophecy.
His first father figure, who won him in a racing bet, is killed.
His second father figure resents him for taking their shared father figure away from him.
His third father figure takes an interest in him, supports him, encourages him to follow his heart and chase his dreams, but is secretly the most evil man in the galaxy...an ambitious politician with fundamentialist religious leanings in a cult devoted to subjugation by unlimited power. So... not the healthiest environment for a boy adrift in the system.
He spends his teenage years enduring grueling physical and mental training, all while being forced to remain abstinent while being expected to espouse, patience, calm and tranquility, all with out his laser sword activating in his robes while doing wire fu martial arts and telepathy and the ability to literally move objects with will alone.
Asigning him to be bedroom body guard with his first crush the hot older babysitter from just before puberty hit.
The force flows through him. What should be a happy union for him becomes a shameful secret fraught with the fear of discovery, disgrace, and disavowment, plus his evil psychic daddy the only one he can talk to keeps telling him that the love of his life and his future kids will definitely die.
His wise magic grandpa tells him(without knowing all the facts, dispite being able to read minds, tells him yeah people die, it sucks theres nothing you can do, thats why we dont form those kinds of connections.
Finally gets that big promotion, but told its only because he's essentially just a neppo baby and its not a real promotion, his kindly evil dad tells him that all his friends secrely hate him and there's maybe possibly a way to save his family...if...
Young man tries to do the right thing, but the people older and wiser and seasoned in the ways of this exact situation, who have constantly belittled him for his weirdly close personal relationship with his kindly evil dad, bring him along and proceed to kick the shit out of his kindly evil dad who pretends to be weak and helpless to get the emotionally unstable and very very groomed young man to over react, and once he's made a huge mistake....doubles down, kills everyone he used to know and work with destroys the largest archived collection of galactic historical knowledge and kicks off a galaxy wide purge of an entire religion, proceeds to operate as a hired killer and thug for the new galactic empire that runs rough shod over the galaxy for 20 years.

Then his kids, fall in with a terrorist organization that launches a campaign of organized resistance and sabotage to the galactic industrial complex, have a "close" personal and professional relationship before the brother finds out that he did all those things he's kept hidden in the splinter of his mind's eye, was with his sister.
He goes into the space swamp to deal with his post nut clarity and meets up with his wise old space great grandfather who trains him in the ways of the monastic tradition, feeds him psychadelics and sends him to confront himself in a magical evil...swamp cave...made out of trees....And no one questions it till this moment, wow...
The son has an intrusive thought about his friends in torment, stops his training cold, and heads off against the advice of both of his surviving father figures that its a bad idea, but if you really want to be a dumb ass...
Meanwhile the daughter who had only done those things with her then unknown brother, to make the older man criminal who's been flirting with her jealous, ends up running from her father in the space hot rod with a large hairy man and a "Fancy" robot where she and the older criminal start hooking inside the belly of a giant space cave, which... is a giant worm...in an actual space cave....made out of an asteroid....jesus. Also the hot rod space ship looks like a hamburger with a single bite taken out of it and a satelite dish. It also is always broken...
They go to a shady fringe planet and meet a handsome used car salesman who owns the whole planet which he won in a card game, and he used to commit crimes with the older criminal, but they had a falling out, but its probably fine now.
Its not fine.
The older criminal is tortured for the hell of it, and frozen in a block of metal ice and shipped off as an object d'art for a giant slug who runs the space mafia....from a palace...that's actually a temple...for these brain jar metal spider monks...on a desert planet. The one from the first movie.
By this time the son arrives to fight the guy he doesnt know is actually his father. Evil Space Dad cuts off his son's hand, asks him to come work for his company during the summer, and the kid would rather jump off a building than go to work for his father's company. So he does.
He falls several hundred feet and is somehow gently sucked into an exaust port as gently as a water slide, and is ejected into the open air of a gas giant planet, falls for less than two feet before being entagled by a televiison antennae, he psychically calls to his sister, who he still doesnt know is his sister, she recieves his telepathic summons, no one questions it, they go pick up the brother, and gtfo to go save the older criminal, and they are now joined by the used car dealer, who they make a general in their rebel army...
They then proceed to have an an actually pretty good adventure that has some well oiled sexy green guy and a sexy blonde human replica droid, and a different scruffy criminal in a different space hot rod with a different fancy droid.
They finally get around to rescuing the criminal but they've waited so long he's temporarily blind.
The space mafia tries to kill them by throwing them into a horrible... giant worm... cave... that is in a hole cave...in the desert...god damn it >_< They blow up the space mafia, they all become generals, then theyre sent on an infiltration moon and no one is supposed to know theyre coming, but the evil space dad feels his psychic space son and so the empire sets a trap.
The rebels meet space teddy bears who are secretly viet kong and they eat people but that is glossed over moving on.
The flesh eating space teddies and the two best friend robots rescue the rebels, given no reward, the shield generator blows up, hundreds of billions of tax payer credits are wasted, the ecosystem of an entire moon is destroyed, and the two most powerful political leaders in the galaxy "die".
Everyone has a cook out. Stormtroopers are eaten. A good time is had by almost all.
The cook out is haunted.
The brother and the Sister find out they accidentally did a Lannister and silently agree to never tell the older smuggler, who is now in love with the princess. What could go wrong?

But as you'll find out in SW-1's Behind the Music special...The Skywalker Band was riddled with bad choices, and tons of drama...
 

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Is it a weird thing that I watch Rogue One as a comfort film?
 

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Is it a weird thing that I watch Rogue One as a comfort film?
Yes. But then I would watch a behind the music series about both Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes(the cantina band) and Max Rebo, Droopy McCool, and Sy Snoodles,(The Jabba's Palace band) who I sort of picture as the fleetwood mack of the star wars galaxy. So I clearly know weird.
 
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Yeah, I responded on a Facebook post about this yesterday:

Simon Kinberg?
You mean, "Dark Phoenix" Kinberg?
You mean, "X-Men Apocalypse" Kinberg?
You mean "Fantastic Four (2015)" Kinberg?

Yeah, this will be spectacular shit.

Maybe Disney is just trying to kill off Star Wars once and for all, to claim another massive tax deduction for something.

My understanding is that the guy is liked by his crew, typically, but man -- aside from maybe some early stuff he's written, for the last 10+ years what he creates is not even just average, it's like total shite.
Wow! It's even worse than I thought. I haven't seen those films but they have a dark reputation.
 
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