Random Star Wars Thoughts

[Totenkindly]

Splinter of the Minds eye was pretty cool.
The prequel movies I figure are supposed to take place give or take ten years between each other in story terms. So the Clone wars I reckon in that sense lasted around 30ish years.
So annakin was in his late 30's when he became Darth Vader, Obi wan was about 12-15 years older than anakin...so he's in his mid to late 40's when Revenge of the Sith took place. early 50's in Obi-wan and in his 60's in A New Hope...​

Anakin in his late 30s? He's peaking kind of old for a wunderkin. Also, he acts like he's 19.

 

[The Cat]

My Take on his take: He wanted to like it. He made himself "like it" I get it, this is what's there, liking things is less frustrating than hating things... I do this sometimes with certain foods.
According to the scuttlebutt around the hall of loonies obsessed with making star wars content, this fella has been rewarded by TPTB for his ability to contort himself into a good review With merch. But his eyes. His eyes are screaming for help inside his head. (Some of the scuttlebutt suggests he only likes it because his girlfriend does, to which I reply. Yeah. That's what you do in that situation.) But you know the deal with scuttlebutt. Ignore it completely or get too invested into it and youre gonna end up knocked on your butt eventually.
And even this guy has a lot of things to say about the writing trends in Disney.
I do like streamers like this over some of the more...religious passion for star wars channels.
Its so wild how much culture war politics has infiltrated entertainment, even in Star Wars. Which I get there have always been politics in Star Wars, but it seemed to be from a place to make you think rather than react. Now we're firmly entrenched in 0 to nuclear in less than 60 seconds. It makes it really hard to not believe in brainwashing through pop culture with this kinda culture war seepage.

He's 10000% right about needing to move away from the skywalkers and Empire Age. He's wrong about the relatable story though. The Acolyte is not a show about bringing things together, its about tearing things apart.

We need more Sith Stories, and to do that, they need to get fucking rid of the god damned rule of 2. They don't need to retcon it. They just need to introduce other Sith Factions who didnt buy into Darth Bane's competitive reality television inspired genocide. Though that would be a hilarious parody show. Sith Academy. Where a bunch of edgy and rebellious baddies compete to see who gets to be the next top Apprentice and just spend a season watching each class darwin award and murder each other till there's only one left to get the rose from Darth Dumb Ass, because why would you axe all but one of your resources, and no Sith Lord has followed that stupid rule in private since it was put on the books. I mean what other Force Blue Laws are there on the galactic books? lol That would be a fun adult animated series in the SW verse. But I digress.

There were kernals of things that were worth exploring. But they needed to be developed beyond story board. A lot of things happened to satisfy the plot, if this were a book over a show I would say it was told by an unreliable narrator.

Deus Ex Machina can work. Its risky as fuck, and Ive only ever seen it used to my satisfaction once, and that was in the Dark Tower series, surreal just works better in horror. I think the Acolyte could have worked as a Star Wars Horror story. Horror is the best medium to tell stories of flawed characters and corrupt systems. The aesthetics of horror by their nature make them essentially morality plays. The Acolyte wants to be a morality play, which is fine, but it should have been a sci fi horror fantasy instead of a run of the mill Star Wars project.

Ultimately I think what we have here, is a failure to communicate.

Dr Cats says everybody needs to smoke a few bowls, eat a few edibles and sit down and have a back and forth. Star Wars fans will give production a break and sign off on multiple genre star wars projects, and TPTB will start investing in more and better writing standards, and you know, at least half the time, make an actual star wars project thats just simple pew pew lasers sounds in space and colored laser swords and pithy one liners from nerf herders.

God I mean if we're going to ip cross over places everywhere, and changing up the formula, fucking just start doing cross genre projects: A Horror Star Wars, A Police Procedural Star Wars, a coming of age road trip star wars, a romantic comedy star wars. You're obviously gonna try to subvert the Star Wars genre for reasons that Im sure make a lot of sense to you, so just fucking lean into it, but call a spade a spade. Stop insulting the audience when they want the band to play the songs they bought the tickets to the concert for. Stop billing it as the classics. Just be honest with what your doing Hollywoob, nobody ever got overly pissed off from being spoiled for choice. But plenty of people get bent out of shape when theyre told, hey this refuge that you found here for all these years of lonliness and isolation and ostracization from elsewhere. Well it's not for you, its never been for *you* and you're not welcome here, get lost. You're everything thats wrong with the times in which we live. And let's be real here. Who wouldnt?

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[The Cat]

Anakin in his late 30s? He's peaking kind of old for a wunderkin. Also, he acts like he's 19.

i know. I suppose it comes from not having a father figure at home besides Watto, then Palps. lol But when you take into account the look of the age of Anakin once the helmet comes off in Jedi, he looks like he's creeping into comfort of early 50's

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Splinter of the Minds eye was pretty cool.
The prequel movies I figure are supposed to take place give or take ten years between each other in story terms. So the Clone wars I reckon in that sense lasted around 30ish years.
So annakin was in his late 30's when he became Darth Vader, Obi wan was about 12-15 years older than anakin...so he's in his mid to late 40's when Revenge of the Sith took place. early 50's in Obi-wan and in his 60's in A New Hope...​

I've always felt like the Clone Wars should have lasted longer. After all, they're plural.

 

[The Cat]

We're just going to have to agree to agree on this one Robin.​

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

We're just going to have to agree to agree on this one Robin.​

I want a waffle lightsaber. Basically, like Kylo Ren's, but on crack.

I'd also like a lightsaber Hula Hoop. Basically, the inside would all be beskar or cortosis or something, but the outside would be lightsaber. A popular form of both offense and defensive maneuvers could be achieved by using hula hoop manuevrs. Using this weapons was considered by the Jedi to be a very dark art, so only the Sith and other darksiders use it.

This is not well known, but the original villain of Episode 9 was actually a villain who used the lightsaber Hula Hoop, who was going to be played by Tim Robbins. Scheduling conflicts made this plan fall apart.

 

[The Cat]

I want a waffle lightsaber. Basically, like Kylo Ren's, but on crack.

I'd also like a lightsaber Hula Hoop. Basically, the inside would all be beskar or cortosis or something, but the outside would be lightsaber. A popular form of both offense and defensive maneuvers could be achieved by using hula hoop manuevrs. Using this weapons was considered by the Jedi to be a very dark art, so only the Sith and other darksiders use it.

This is not well known, but the original villain of Episode 9 was actually a villain who used the lightsaber Hula Hoop, who was going to be played by Tim Robbins. Scheduling conflicts made this plan fall apart.

You're the reason they're gonna have warning labels on light sabers.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

You're the reason they're gonna have warning labels on light sabers.

They build character.

 

[Totenkindly]

They build character.

I'm kinda half-and-half on the hula saber.

 

[The Cat]

I'm kinda half-and-half on the hula saber.

If you weren't you will be...you will be.

 

[Totenkindly]

Joke intended

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

A stupid thing about The Acolyte that I haven't heard anyone mention:

I read an article before the series was finished with one of the people who worked on it saying "Oh no, there won't be any cameos in this or anything. Yoda's not going to make an appearance."

Then in the very last scene, when Yoda made an appearance, I groaned, mentally, if not literally. I had no desire to see him in this to begin with. When I watched this, seeing Yoda as part of this corrupt, sinister Jedi order that I guess the Sith are right to hate brought no warmth to my heart, nor did it quicken my mind with excitement. I found that stupid game the person being interviewed on this subject played very irritating and underwhelming, reminiscent of J.J. Abrams saying Cumberbatch "wasn't Khan." Hopefully, they enjoyed themselves, at least.

I suppose I can't be too hard on the way they depicted the Jedi in this show; admiring or idolizing someone who turns out to be not who you thought they were must not be a rare occurrence. I suppose there's nothing wrong with the show reflecting that experience, assuming that the people behind the show cared about what they were doing, which might not be the case.

 

[The Cat]

"Write human beings and let women play them."
"Plan your trilogies."​

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

That video made me think about my own Star Wars sequel "trilogy."

I know this is unprofessional, and that the experts behind the actual sequel trilogy have their own methods for crafting quality cinema, but I think I have a little outline of how this is supposed to go.

The characters names should probably all be changed, but I haven't thought of new names to use yet.

First film (ripples of the force):

Jyn and Finn met up with Poe in a cantina on a planet with a New Republic base. They talk about stuff. People may hate me for this, but Poe doesn't trust Finn here because of each of their backgrounds. They want to order drinks, but know that now is not the time to enjoy them because of what Jyn and Finn told Poe earlier. Then they are alerted into an Imperial craft headed into the system. They all head into battle. Jyn faces off against the noob Sith earlier, who probably makes it to the final battle of this film. Finn proves his loyalty to Poe, and Jyn discovers his Force sensitivity.

Jyn is afraid of the darkness within herself. Her hate and rage about being abandoned as a child, her disgust at the universe for all of its injustices. There was only one other Jedi at the Academy who showed that level of raw, dark fury.... For this reason, she fears taking an apprentice, and she tells Finn that she will never take one. (Jyn's arc throughout these films will be about learning not to fear the darkness within herself, moving past her fear of failure, and emerging from solitude to take an active role in the galaxy.)

stuff happens

Final battle at Jedi Academy at Yavin 4. A Sith fleet has arrived to wipe out the Jedi Temple, and it's up to the Jedi remaining at the temple and our new generation of heroes to defend it. This will not be like the final battle in the original film, but rather will look on the surface more like the ground/air battle in Rogue One. We'll see jedi defending their academy with lightsabers and other methods, and some atmospheric starfighter action. We'll see Luke and Mara Jade do something cool. Jyn has her own cool thing she does that only she knows how to do (something to do with ripples or water maybe). Finn shows up and also does the cool thing. They do the cool thing together and this saves the day.

Because of how well they work as a team, Jyn decides to change her mind and take him as an apprentice. Poe congratulations Finn on his deeds, and apologizes for doubting him.

Final scene is them standing on top of the Temple on Yavin 4, the drinks they never got to enjoy earlier in hand, watching the sunset over the jungle after a long few days. This amazing collection of people are together now. Friends. And they're sure they always will be...

Second film:

This is about Finn and Jyn about master and apprentice, going on a mission or two together.

Third film:

This is about Finn falling to the darkside; motivations really haven't been sussed out, but curiosity will play a role.

Fourth film:

Jyn trades her single-bladed saber for a blue double-bladed one (because we were robbed).

Poe wants to go after Finn after learning about his fall. Jyn stops him. Jyn keep lamenting her failure, how she failed Finn, and how she can't go save him because she knows she's not strong enough to resist the dark side. Poe talks her out of that. Jyn goes to try and save Finn, and succeeds at some point. I'm not sure how that works,though. The climax has Jyn and Darth Cadeus having a lightsaber dual with acrobatics (a little like Duel of the Fates, but this will be dialogue heavy. Form II vs. Form IV maybe, flipping the script with alignments). While Jyn and cadeus fight, they heatedly discuss their differing philosophies and views on the universe. And of course, Cadeus also emphasizes what they have in common.. Cadeus expresses his regret about how she could achieve greatness at his side, but instead she chooses to remain weak and held back by fear. This goes on, maybe Cadeus threatens Finn or something, but her response would be more measured and defensive, because I'm trying to avoid this repeating ROTJ too much. Case in point, this ends when Jyn stabs Cadeus through the chest (not unlike what Maul did to Qui-Gon Jinn). It's like poetry, it rhymes.

I need to work in Han and Leia somehow too, given that the main villain is their son. They'll be scenes where Jyn consults with Luke, and I may or may not have more for Luke to do, but I don't want him to overshadow the next generation. It might be interesting, at the very end after the final lightsaber duel to have a scene together with Jyn and Han and Leia being in a crowd or at a celebration at the same time, and Jyn seeing them and looking uncomfortable. Perhaps a scene with dialogue, too. Maybe she feels obligated to speak to them despite her extreme discomfort and tell them why she did what she did, because he was their son once and they have a right to know what happened and judge her accordingly.

Open to any feedback or interesting observations.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

So if I'm following the suggestions in that video @The Cat posted about Enlightened Fantasy, I'd have to figure out how to move things into more mythological territory for the fourth film.

I think I'm aiming at the same thing he is, I think, but I think I'm more focused on the internal psychology of some of the characters. I'm departing from tradition and not having the hero be a wide-eyed youth, so that changes maybe what I want to do.

I'm also injecting politics in there as well.

 

[The Cat]

So if I'm following the suggestions in that video @The Cat posted about Enlightened Fantasy, I'd have to figure out how to move things into more mythological territory for the fourth film.

I think I'm aiming at the same thing he is, I think, but I think I'm more focused on the internal psychology of some of the characters. I'm departing from tradition and not having the hero be a wide-eyed youth, so that changes maybe what I want to do.

Read Mythology.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Read Mythology.

I have!

 

[The Cat]

I have!

Just once, or are you gonna read more?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Just once, or are you gonna read more?

It would probably be a different region I haven't covered that much of. Like Eastern Europe, India, Japan, Africa

 

[The Cat]