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[Virtual ghost]

What Redistricting Looks Like In Every State

It seems that the federal map is complete (unless another state map falls).

 

[The Cat]

Ah Roose Bolton's Bastard...

proof that sometimes failsons: fail upwards...

doesnt change their father's undying dissapointment in them...

poor things.

Not exactly a happy ending...but then Roose Bolton's bastard...was still a bastard...

 

[Virtual ghost]

I will never really get the meme wars.

 

[The Cat]

I will never really get the meme wars.

Because you are sane. You probably also have friends in real life, and dont take free bird seed from thirsty coyotes either.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Because you are sane. You probably also have friends in real life, and dont take free bird seed from thirsty coyotes either.

Two of those clams are correct, third is questionable. However I will keep the details for myself.

But that was kinda serious claim. Some people rally think that adding a meme will add to strength of their argument.

 

[The Cat]

Two of those clams are correct, third is questionable. However I will keep the details for myself.

But that was kinda serious claim. Some people rally think that adding a meme will add to strength of their argument.

Oh it totally doesn't. It's more like... when a fool argues with an idiot. It's a really hold my beer and watch this kind of moment with all the grace, dignity, and intelligence of a dog trying to stand up in the back of a van. It's not going to make anyone look good, apart from the contrast of all the people who don't confuse (or in my case occasionally enjoy) masturbating without an orgasm for an actual point. Though even that would have more a climax.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Generic ballot 538


Interesting, the polls suddenly look a lot more blue since the big formal announcement was made regarding Roe. Therefore if this continues and the odds are that it will as the new reality settles in. So the chances are that midterms could end up quite differently from what was expected just a month ago. Especially since no one really thinks that either party will genuinely fix the economy that is in major global rearrangement. What basically reduces the midterms to "save what you can". We will see but this was rally unwise move on the conservative side.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

As I said 2022 will perhaps be red year, but the questions of abortions and guns should mild it down, if they can't reverse the results. While 2024 is simply way too far, we live in the world where we don't know what will be a month from now (literally).


However I really disagree with the idea that abortion doesn't have consequences in material means. This is exactly why I think that someone on the right didn't really think this through. The obvious example of this are alimony costs. Another problem is that a decent amount of people is likely to move out of very red areas over this. What evidently lowers their GDP and creates various social problems (perhaps even in the place where they moved to because they pushed local demands and thus prices upwards). Also if you get prosecuted and charged for anything abortion related I dare to say that this evidently effects your finances and your family (and eventually the whole community). This kinds of laws will also lower desire of women for sex and that will lead to plenty of frustrated men. What if you put in human nature into account leads to damage and problems with law (especially if guns are just at the every corner). What altogether in the end also undermines local economy. Separating sexuality from economy is basically impossible. Sexuality is what drives the desires that eventually lead to economy and it also creates 100% of all citizens. Thus clear separation of these topics is simply impossible in practice.


We will see, but this just doesn't strike me as too good mix regardless of election issues.

I'm glad someone is discussing this.

All of the current social sickness we see in the form of "movements" like inceldom and radical/TERF feminism will only get worse. A population of frustrated women contributes to an increase in frustration among men, and vice versa. We're already at the point where so many of these frustrations have manifested in divisive political demarcation. Lines already drawn in the sand are now being drawn in concrete. When large numbers of demographics become polarized against one another on partisan lines, it's not good for society, especially when societal survival normally depends on the healthy cooperation and mingling of those particular demographics.

People are downplaying the effect of a mass lowering of libido; this is critical. You can tell a lot about any civilization's overall health by looking at the sexual politics.

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

The problem with conservatives is that they are often very good at recognizing societal ills, but when it comes to offering any workable solutions, usually the best they can offer is "do what we did before because it worked at one point". Being able to diagnose a problem does not mean one is fit to provide the cure.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Lol. Its still going to be a slaughter.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Republican primary turnout is up 29% from 2018, Dem turnout is down 3%

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

That seems like little change from past trends. Dems have never been great about participating in primaries and mid-terms. Then the ones who didn't vote in primaries get mad when people like Terry McAuliffe and Nancy Pelosi continue to be nominated for offices. It doesn't help matters that many saw right through the DNC games of 2016 and 2020. Why participate in an obviously rigged game? I know "rigged game" is a Trump talking point, but it's not entirely wrong to call the current electoral system for what it's become.

 

[The Cat]

When is a wave not a wave?

 

[ceecee]

That seems like little change from past trends. Dems have never been great about participating in primaries and mid-terms. Then the ones who didn't vote in primaries get mad when people like Terry McAuliffe and Nancy Pelosi continue to be nominated for offices. It doesn't help matters that many saw right through the DNC games of 2016 and 2020. Why participate in an obviously rigged game? I know "rigged game" is a Trump talking point, but it's not entirely wrong to call the current electoral system for what it's become.

It's not wrong but it's not in the way Trump thinks. Remember how he told the SoS from Georgia to - "find me 12,000 more votes"? These GOP fuckheads are completely terrified of getting caught and going to prison so they'll do everything legal, up to and including changing the laws to suit them, including asking for blanket pardon in advance because they are all part of a crime syndicate.

The actual "rigging", at least for the Dems, is in leadership - DNC, DCCC and DSCC - they rig themselves. See Bernie Sanders.

I actually see people talking about JB Pritzker much more now. He has a lot of plusses.

NOT elderly (I think he's a bit older than me so mid 50's), which is at the heart of a lot of issues with the Dems.
Doesn't come off as a smug shit liberal or psychopathic Republican
Is like a fucking unicorn in the sense of appealing to progressives and garden variety Dems
Thus far, I like what he's doing/saying, he did pretty good with COVID too. He's not my gov but IL would be in the Great Lakes Khanate if we were to Balkanize so I pay attention.
He's a BIG boy. Fetterman/Pritzker ticket would be amazing looking, on size alone.

Of course much remains to be seen but he's talking a good game at the moment. Fetterman just owns Dr. Oz on a daily basis, it's delightful.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I actually see people talking about JB Pritzker much more now. He has a lot of plusses.

NOT elderly (I think he's a bit older than me so mid 50's), which is at the heart of a lot of issues with the Dems.
Doesn't come off as a smug shit liberal or psychopathic Republican
Is like a fucking unicorn in the sense of appealing to progressives and garden variety Dems
Thus far, I like what he's doing/saying, he did pretty good with COVID too. He's not my gov but IL would be in the Great Lakes Khanate if we were to Balkanize so I pay attention.
He's a BIG boy. Fetterman/Pritzker ticket would be amazing looking, on size alone.

Of course much remains to be seen but he's talking a good game at the moment. Fetterman just owns Dr. Oz on a daily basis, it's delightful.

Yeah, that kinda sounds like the type of candidate they need. People that are too old that they can't even talk straight are evident turn off (since that is the job that evidently requires plenty of it). So just on that you can build advantage if the other guy is evidently old. Both parties need a change of generations. 80 is out of date basically by default.


Plus It indeed seems that PA senate seat will go Blue since there is really visible difference in quality between the candidates. Also new poll gives to senate seat in Georgia Blue +10 margin. Probably not really the case but with Roe in the mix just maybe this is the case. Even if it is half of that it is still visible lead.

 

[Virtual ghost]

An actual voting data from post Roe era.
Special election in Nebraska and the big shift that probably can't be explained with out Roe in the mix. The district was just too red to shift but the shift was pretty large.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I'm glad someone is discussing this.

All of the current social sickness we see in the form of "movements" like inceldom and radical/TERF feminism will only get worse. A population of frustrated women contributes to an increase in frustration among men, and vice versa. We're already at the point where so many of these frustrations have manifested in divisive political demarcation. Lines already drawn in the sand are now being drawn in concrete. When large numbers of demographics become polarized against one another on partisan lines, it's not good for society, especially when societal survival normally depends on the healthy cooperation and mingling of those particular demographics.

People are downplaying the effect of a mass lowering of libido; this is critical. You can tell a lot about any civilization's overall health by looking at the sexual politics.

For years I am saying that infinite diversification and everyone living under the same root is the society that can't function. You can't get just about everything you want and make sure that everyone does as well. Radical individualism simply can't work on the long run. There simply has to be a common sense compromise if you plan to keep the country in one piece.

In my book the main driver of frustrations are weak and dysfunctional institutions that aren't really doing their job. However since that isn't likely to get solved people are inventing their own solutions, causes or whatever.

 

[The Cat]

I dont have a problem with aged "leaders" providing that they're still concerned with helping as many young people as possible make it to "venerable elder" status themselves. My issue is these power mad misers who are old enough to know better that consolidating power for the present at the cost of everyone's future...is a losing bet.
Today's aged persons in power(for the most part, there are exceptions ie bernie's got the right idea) are making it harder for the rest of us as we're dragged down the long side of the mountain towards aged status ourselves.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I dont have a problem with aged "leaders" providing that they're still concerned with helping as many young people as possible make it to "venerable elder" status themselves. My issue is these power mad misers who are old enough to know better that consolidating power for the present at the cost of everyone's future...is a losing bet.
Today's aged persons in power(for the most part, there are exceptions ie bernie's got the right idea) are making it harder for the rest of us as we're dragged down the long side of the mountain towards aged status ourselves.

Yes, but the problem is that very old people are lower on energy and in this line of work that is very likely to have negative effects on how a person does their job. No matter how good their intentions actually are. Of course that this it isn't only factor but it is a factor. Plus quite old people struggle with some newer options that technology offers today. What again leads to under performing next to someone who is like them but a few decades younger.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Election 2022 forecast 538

There is plenty of statistics here. If someone wants to go through all that.