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The current reports in the German media very cautiously point at a positive development of the talks. Scholz has just visited Moscow and my husband and I speculated just now if maybe his hesitance to be more outspoken in public might have something to do with some sort of behind-the-stage negociations going on even before his official visit.


Of course there are talks behind the closed doors and away from the public. Every relevant country is talking to pretty much everybody else. Especially since this war would blow up food and energy prices for pretty much everyone. What in combination with COVID and related problems doesn't create a pretty picture for this year.

Plus Germany is Russia's second largest trading partner. Therefore I really doubt that the conversations started today over this.
 

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You're doing Biden Derangement syndrome, you know.

You're not better than people blaming Trump on Russia that you were criticizing a few posts back, and you know it.

Some of what you say is basically right, but you cling to Trump out of fear so you can't stand any criticizing of him or think that any accusations of not having the cognitive capacity for the job don't also apply to Trump (lots of Democrats do the same with Biden, so you are in good company).

But that's what so shitty about this system. I can't say that it isn't good that we had two people who can't mentally handle the task on that debate stage, I'm supposed to go on and pretend that one doesn't actually have cognitive impairment. You're much more mainstream than you think in that.

The entire American political system has been gaslighting me for the past 20 years and I'm sick of it. Trump, Biden, Bush, Obama they're all grifters and crooks. Sorry everyone for including one of your "faves" in there.
So are we just going to label being invested into any movement a "Derangement syndrome" now? And no, Trump does deserve criticism on how he acts, but he gets only criticism regardless of his achievements. No one acknowledged any of the good he was doing. That is what I have an issue with... this outrageous out of proportion disinformation, and lies about Trump. I consider myself a very fair person, and this behavior actively pisses me off because of how two-faced and hypocritical it is. And more specifically, how the media is the number one propagator of this behavior. No one is caring that the media is using its power, to influence elections. That isn't journalism, that is a propaganda broadcasting system.

Also, I am better. I don't act hypocritically in my beliefs based on what party is doing what. I don't forgive Republicans for being all about "muh freedums" who then go support Democratic lawmakers that take away those same rights. I also hate how they get hung up on the stupidest bullshit ever hills to die on like abortion. I believe in separation of church and state. Republicans constantly want to bloat USA with bureaucratic bullshit that goes no where like social security. These fucking boomers need to die already. I also don't forgive Democrats for actively stealing away peoples human rights, because they "know better" than the "Dumb Rednecks". Democrats constantly prove just how out of touch they are with the majority of hte population. Basing their entire political ideologies and policies on the loud minority on fucking twitter. These politicians, don't even see the American people as people. They see them as chattel. They just tell you what you want to hear, painting a nice picture when they are in power. And painting a terrible one when they are not. Regardless of reality. They are the ultimate corruptors, and actively degrade the family unit, community, and culture itself. All so its an easily manipulated formless mass of grey goo. One that cannot form an cohesive resistance. All because of the division that they have sown in society intentionally. The "Culture war" is a distraction to stop people from realizing what our leaders are doing behind the scenes. Like causing inflation and stealing even more money from the middle class to create a bigger class divide.

The system is shitty because there is no actual representation. You just get politician A or B, and they are almost exactly the same. It is essentially a modern day dynasty system pretending to be a democracy.

You are not the only one that has felt gas lighted.
 
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I lived in Chicago during the height of the BLM protests. It was fine. I'm not sure what your on about with regards to it being dangerous. But go and tell me I'm delusional in my own experience of what I lived with.
So are we just going to label being invested into any movement a "Derangement syndrome" now? And no, Trump does deserve criticism on how he acts, but he gets only criticism regardless of his achievements. No one acknowledged any of the good he was doing. That is what I have an issue with... this outrageous out of proportion disinformation, and lies about Trump. I consider myself a very fair person, and this behavior actively pisses me off because of how two-faced and hypocritical it is. And more specifically, how the media is the number one propagator of this behavior. No one is caring that the media is using its power, to influence elections. That isn't journalism, that is a propaganda broadcasting system.
Trump is a grifter and conman. Of course some of the things he is criticized for, like going after whistleblowers , were things Obama did too and things that Obama got a free pass on. . Just because Obama got a free pass on those things does not make it good when Trump did them.

Nor does the fact that Biden's handling of the pandemic has been pretty bad and he's gotten a pass on that excuse the fact that Trump's handling of it was shitty.

He gets some credit from me for pushing back against John Bolton's push to go to war with Iran, and I also don't consider protectionism to be something inherently misguided, although I can't say how effective his specific attempts have been.

He also rode to the White House by scapegoating immigrants and refugees (provided they were from Latin America or the Middle East and not Eastern Europe like his wife), on the backs of fame caused by a shitty reality TV show. I don't need to be wrapped in a security blank it to remind me of this glorious time when all Americans respected the flag or rich dipshit "entrepreneurs" were national heroes or whatever warm fuzzy feelings he gave people. For that, I will not give him any credit.

If we want proof that the American empire is in a state of decline, we need look no further than Trump.
Also, I am better. I don't act hypocritically in my beliefs based on what party is doing what.
Sure you do. You whine about the election being stolen because your guy lost. Just a few posts back, you were criticizing democrats for doing that. But it's different in your case because it ; "really happened". The problem is that those people you are complaining about believe the exact same thing, that it's somehow different and not the same. Why should anyone think you're being more honest or correct in your assessment of the situation than they are?
 
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Saying "well the other guy did something shitty too" and having that be the basis of political discussion seems to be a great way to guarantee that things stay shitty. Gee, I wonder why things are shitty?

Google Covid deaths worldwide and see what the top country is. I guess perhaps we are exceptional in something after all. Trump and Biden both have a role to play in that.
 

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How the world changed.


 

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I lived in Chicago during the height of the BLM protests. It was fine. I'm not sure what your on about with regards to it being dangerous. But go and tell me I'm delusional in my own experience of what I lived with.
Okay, so you think burning down businesses and looting stores is acceptable as a form of "protest" all while the media said it was "peaceful" despite there being multiple fires, murders, and assaults? Or how about the joke that was CHOP/CHAZ in Seattle? How are these better than the January protests? Do you honestly believe the media would show what was actually happening in the BLM protests? Did you watch any of the livestreams?
Trump is a grifter and conman. Of course some of the things he is criticized for, like going after whistleblowers , were things Obama did too and things that Obama got a free pass on. . Just because Obama got a free pass on those things does not make it good when Trump did them.
That is your opinion, based solely on his mannerisms and the medias portrayed caricature of him. The bar for how disgusting and horrible rich people can be is pretty high. Trump is one of the ethically better ones in reality. The entire political world is filled with horrible monsters, way way worse than Trump and they get the free pass purely because you do not know about it.
Nor does the fact that Biden's handling of the pandemic has been pretty bad and he's gotten a pass on that excuse the fact that Trump's handling of it was shitty.

He gets some credit from me for pushing back against John Bolton's push to go to war with Iran, and I also don't consider protectionism to be something inherently misguided, although I can't say how effective his specific attempts have been.
I am fairly certain the pandemic was used divisively for many reasons for the Plutocracy to gain more power. Part, to discredit Trump before the election. Despite him being the one that initiated regulation to make the vaccine possible. Crazy how quickly people forgot about that. Many claiming they would never take a vaccine made by the Trump administration, but bent the knee pretty quickly once the media started broadcasting the apocalypse 24/7.

Trump got almost no credit for being the first president to not start a new war in a long time. I feel protectionism is the only way you can improve quality of life, and decrease inflation for the working class. Globalism, inherently causes inflation due to world competing markets that are controlled and not free. Due to how politics interferes with trade, via tariffs etc. All Trump did, was make it easier to manufacture at home by cutting back obscenely high taxes (that made trade go overseas to begin with), and increased tariffs on imports. This promotes domestic sourcing, and thus keeping the money inside the country. It is also an ethical thing, because overseas they use child and slave labour to make things and ship them back to the USA for obscene profits. A perfect example of this, is iPhones.
He also rode to the White House by scapegoating immigrants and refugees (provided they were from Latin America or the Middle East and not Eastern Europe like his wife), on the backs of fame caused by a shitty reality TV show. I don't need to be wrapped in a security blank it to remind me of this glorious time when all Americans respected the flag or rich dipshit "entrepreneurs" were national heroes or whatever warm fuzzy feelings he gave people. For that, I will not give him any credit.
This was entirely a fabrication by the media. And no, legal immigrants from the same countries also hate illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants paid, and waited to get into the country for a long time. People migrate out for Mexico etc to escape corruption, crime, and drug cartels etc. Everyone entirely overlooked the Latinos/Mexicans for Trump movement, because the media didn't report on it very well. And if they did, it was always to paint them in a bad light. Hence, influencing the election to make Trump look like a racist. When he in fact, was trying to help them by banning illegals from entering the country. I have no idea why people cannot wrap their heads around the concept of why illegal immigrants are bad. Not just because they have no proof of their existence, but also because of what can happen to them. Many illegal immigrants are treated like slaves, under threat of deportation by certain companies. This makes it more difficult for legal immigrants to get jobs who are competing with illegal immigrants who are being paid slave wages. Democrats love this, because they are making a profit off of it. And if they can get illegals to vote, they pretty much have established a system that will make them always win, and creating a form of slave class.
If we want proof that the American empire is in a state of decline, we need look no further than Trump.
Trump represents more of the spirit of America, in all of its history than the last 4 Presidents combined.
Sure you do. You whine about the election being stolen because your guy lost. Just a few posts back, you were criticizing democrats for doing that. But it's different in your case because it ; "really happened". The problem is that those people you are complaining about believe the exact same thing, that it's somehow different and not the same. Why should anyone think you're being more honest or correct in your assessment of the situation than they are?
They don't have to, they just need to recognize that Biden winning the election was some fuckery and pay close attention in the future. Can you imagine Biden being reelected? Do you honestly believe Biden is the most popular president in history? I can imagine some support, but I cannot believe him having achieved the most votes in history...
 

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Why is Russia one of the only places that are still green?


The debt clock says their debt is 17% of GDP, what obviously translates into green.
But it seems that they indeed keep up the fiscal discipline. They aren't too wealthy but they spend only what they have. What is indeed smart since not having debts gives you advantage in any crisis.
 
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I know about Le Monde and Der Speigel. Does anyone know of any good English language Dutch, Belgian, or Swedish sources?
 

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Okay, so you think burning down businesses and looting stores is acceptable as a form of "protest" all while the media said it was "peaceful" despite there being multiple fires, murders, and assaults? Or how about the joke that was CHOP/CHAZ in Seattle? How are these better than the January protests? Do you honestly believe the media would show what was actually happening in the BLM protests? Did you watch any of the livestreams?
You're hilarious. Some of us are not afraid to go out and participate in protests. These were peaceful protests, until cops showed up with their marching orders and fash narrative, people defend themselves, cable media swoops in and points at the "violence" and tell rubes like you to look at this and only this. Anything that doesn't fit your right wing narrative is ignored.


I watched 1/6 right here. Nothing remotely peaceful about it. Feel free to have a look.

 
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