Random Politics Thread

[Mind Maverick]

I've never voted before because I hated politics and thought it was just the lesser of two evils and you can't see through them anyway. This year will be the first time. Fuck Trump.

 

[rav3n]

I'm still spitting angry about health officials denigrating face masks, in order to protect the supply for healthcare workers. They should have been honest that there's limited supply and that the supply must be protected for healthcare workers but recommend that the general public wear home made masks. For that matter, the politicos in every country should have protected surgical and N95 masks for healthcare workers until supply ramped up. That said, healthcare workers wouldn't be so inundated if the general public had started wearing masks at the onset.

What's triggered my anger is because there's been no elevated rate of C19 from protests because protesters were and are wearing masks. Mask wearing, hand washing, social distancing and lockdown is how some countries have beat down C19 into submission.

 

[ceecee]

I've never voted before because I hated politics and thought it was just the lesser of two evils and you can't see through them anyway. This year will be the first time. Fuck Trump.

Be the change you want to see in the world, my man.

 

[Mind Maverick]

Be the change you want to see in the world, my man.

Err. I'm a woman, but yeah. 'Tis good advice. Not voting for Trump is definitely a good start.

 

[ceecee]

Err. I'm a woman, but yeah. 'Tis good advice. Not voting for Trump is definitely a good start.

I hope you consider not voting for the politicians that enable him as well, regardless of party. And your down ballot voting of course, that has more impact on you personally.

 

[Red Memories]

I hope you consider not voting for the politicians that enable him as well, regardless of party. And your down ballot voting of course, that has more impact on you personally.

this is a mini quickie thing but I am hoping maybe this time in Idaho we could make a possible tiny run... Idaho is a very republican state so most people don't even try for some seats but Paulette Jordan made some head way last election and maybe she'll make more this time.

Paulette Jordan - Wikipedia

She isn't going for governor but she's going for the senate. Hoping for some positive traction for her.

I know many people are so mad at Brad Little and the mayor in Boise here though they're trying to get them recalled. It's kinda crazy but at the same time I totally get it, they've failed during this pandemic horribly too.

 

[Mind Maverick]

I hope you consider not voting for the politicians that enable him as well, regardless of party. And your down ballot voting of course, that has more impact on you personally.

My mother keeps saying vote democrat so that if Trump is re-elected he will actually get impeached. Is that what you're talking about?
I have yet to do thorough enough research to make a decision, all I know so far is that I'm very anti-Trump.

 

[Red Memories]

My mother keeps saying vote democrat so that if Trump is re-elected he will actually get impeached. Is that what you're talking about?
I have yet to do thorough enough research to make a decision, all I know so far is that I'm very anti-Trump.

I know like here, the Idaho Statesmen, our paper, will do editorial briefings from each candidate and that at least gives you a name research starting point. Senators and Representatives can be some of the most important people to elect. In a lot of ways the President works more as an agenda maker. But the congress (representatives) and senate actually makes, adjust, and pass laws and legislations. So you definitely want to vote for them by their policies that you align with so they're working on issues you have.

 

[Mind Maverick]

I know like here, the Idaho Statesmen, our paper, will do editorial briefings from each candidate and that at least gives you a name research starting point. Senators and Representatives can be some of the most important people to elect. In a lot of ways the President works more as an agenda maker. But the congress (representatives) and senate actually makes, adjust, and pass laws and legislations. So you definitely want to vote for them by their policies that you align with so they're working on issues you have.

Yeah, I seldom take my mother's advice because 99% of the time it makes no sense. I do my own research. I get that she is going for the Senates that will approve of his impeachment, but the idiot only has 36% supporters right now anyway and like what else are you getting with that package? So yeah.

 

[ceecee]

Yeah, I seldom take my mother's advice because 99% of the time it makes no sense. I do my own research. I get that she is going for the Senates that will approve of his impeachment, but the idiot only has 36% supporters right now anyway and like what else are you getting with that package? So yeah.

I don't really think this will happen, regardless of the Dems taking the senate. I mean the idea is to get him and his entire grifting administration out, right?

 

[Mind Maverick]

I don't really think this will happen, regardless of the Dems taking the senate. I mean the idea is to get him and his entire grifting administration out, right?

I don't really think Trump will even be re-elected in the first place tbh. Too many people hate him. Plus, he's killing off the few supporters he's got left by bringing them to rally in Tulsa.

Not to fear though, Trump says there is a cure!

Apparently if you support idiots you die like one too.

 

[Mind Maverick]

Why I will never understand cult mentality...

Cliche question: "If [someone] said jump off a bridge, would you do it?"
[someone] supporters:

 

[ceecee]

Market Logic Is Literally Killing Us - In These Times

 

[Lark]

Market Logic Is Literally Killing Us - In These Times

Yup.

Its ironic because the originators of much of what is considered "market theory", at least at main street level, actually wrote at length about how people should avoid "market logic".

Some of the best, most rationale, criticism of consumerism, for instance, that I ever read was in Adam Smith's System of Moral Sentiments, in contrast, if you read the communist manifesto closely, Marx was positively endorsing a lot of the trends that Smith did not, they both had different views of social class but you know.

 

[Lark]

I predict we see an up surge in a lot of different regulatory schemes and every imaginable economic fix or plan you care to mention so long as its seen as some alternative to socialism AND capitalism. Maybe it'll preserve some privileges while others go to the wall or maybe they'll re-emerge or endure in disguise but I think it's in train already.

The sheer amount of times I've seen distributivism, distributism, social credit, negative income tax, universal basic income, universal basic services, appear, in print, in discussion when those things had, seriously, all but disappeared from indexes, contents, writing, discussion etc.

Pretty much anything but the old socialist bogey, and some of these ideas are definitely a certain kind of socialism in all but name. Definitely. People can split hairs if they want about it but its definitely the case. Its de-centred a lot of the time and doesnt involve centralism, centralization, monopolies, command economies or central planning but then not all socialists where fans of those things, just the ones who had the guns at certain historical turning points.

All that said, its all still largely intellectual or in the realm of thinking that its happening, I still think that at the popular level what's trending is making capitalism and socialism impossible but its making any alternative impossible too.

 

[Cupcakemonster]

Why I will never understand cult mentality...

Cliche question: "If [someone] said jump off a bridge, would you do it?"
[someone] supporters:

Depends.. do I have a parachute?

 

[Mind Maverick]

Depends.. do I have a parachute?

Hmm, no, it works more like

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Still on the fence between Biden and going third party, but if he did this (which he probably won't), he'd seal my support.

Hey Joe Biden, forget Kamala Harris — choose Tulsi Gabbard as your running mate instead – The Tide

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

I'm sorry, sitting in front of a TV absorbing Fox News all day doesn't count as "doing research"

 

[Stigmata]

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