Random Politics Thread

[The Cat]

15 years from now people will rant the same about what they're demanding now. The machine grinds onwards.

 

[Red Memories]

Homicide Investigation Inside Protest Area

 

[Red Memories]

I wish they'd asked HoWyOuGoNnApAyFoRiT before Operation Iraqi Freedom.

The Iraq war was a mess, even my conservative grandfather disliked the war. He said for years Iran and Iraq fought and those places just fight. We went over there, completely destabilized their countries, and then allowed the creation of ISIS.

We did great amiright /s

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

But HoWyOuGoNnApAyFoRiT? durrrrr.

Regarding that one. This is why we like price regulations, social programs, less of stereotypical rule of law down to last detail ... etc.
Because with that make we sure that prices are affordable but still provide decent living. Because fundamentally the key to paying everything is in price control. However if you deregulate too much you will not always have enough for everything. Since no one is an idiot to work for less if they can work for more, especially since jumping of prices in all aspects requires that you work for more. Plus lawyers and similar stuff, here you can't sue some dude you barely know for something random and demand 500 000 $ if you want to win the case. Like the stories about gay wedding cakes that were actual at one point. If the guy doesn't want to make such cakes that is his financial problem. Plus since everyone has socialized medicine they even have literal freedom of choice to some degree. Due to this benefit you just don't have to eat just about every shit that comes along. However since people will stop eating them so much, "someone" will also stop serving them so often. In this country we are probably often even go over the line in these kinds of things but keeping many things under general control is evidently important factor in making sure people can afford what is important/basic. What is again vital for further growth.


While currently we have alternative right and left party openly growing because more and more people thinks that the globalization is too much chipping away all of this. This is why I said multi party system is what US needs more than anything else. Since that gives people ability to easily end certain party if they think they are evil, corrupt or whatever. Since they can always jump on some new ship. Back when I was in high school the biggest party in our parliament were liberals, while today that party is at 2 seats. In theory interest groups can corrupt as many parties they want but the people can always just invent new party and go their own way. Plus they can require snap elections at any time if they are in sufficient numbers and/or there is objective argumentation. Ending evidently bad administrations before they do too much damage is actually pretty good way of making sure you can pay everything. Plus it generally forces politicians to think twice what they will actually do. I suppose you can call this "civilized second amendment".


So yeah, there are ways how to pay.

 

[Totenkindly]

I think the funniest part of yesterday's rally debacle is that all the data they collected is pretty much useless -- they either toss it or spend a lot of time/resources vetting it to determine what contact information is valid. Considering how few showed up compared to RSVP, it might make more sense just to scrap it and start over. I guess if they were smart, they would have been keeping a positive confirmation from the 6200 folks who actually attended but that's all.

 

[Lark]

15 years from now people will rant the same about what they're demanding now. The machine grinds onwards.

Cant help but suspect this is right.

 

[ceecee]

Nah, the US military doesn't have a white supremacy/Nazi problem.....

US Army Soldier Allegedly Gave Classified Info to Satanic Neo-Nazi Group, Sources Say – NBC New York

 

[Red Memories]

Nah, the US military doesn't have a white supremacy/Nazi problem.....

US Army Soldier Allegedly Gave Classified Info to Satanic Neo-Nazi Group, Sources Say – NBC New York

I think it involves as my grandpa says, a lot of gunnies are...not exactly the most vetted or intelligent people. He is a former marine btw. He said this issue existed in every army corps, that of the "gunnies" or as he calls them the people who run up beaches fearlessly. While they're...patriotic? they're also crazy-ish and usually pretty stupid... But I dislike making the action of a portion of people define an entire association of people.

 

[ceecee]

I think it involves as my grandpa says, a lot of gunnies are...not exactly the most vetted or intelligent people. He is a former marine btw. He said this issue existed in every army corps, that of the "gunnies" or as he calls them the people who run up beaches fearlessly. While they're...patriotic? they're also crazy-ish and usually pretty stupid... But I dislike making the action of a portion of people define an entire association of people.

That's fine if you don't want to define a group of people as anything. But the US military has a huge problem with white nationalism (very clear they don't teach enlistees the difference between nationalism and patriotism), white supremacy, neo-Nazism and neo-Confederacy. The reason for the large amounts of military in groups like this is that it's not prohibited.

Military personnel can be in neo-Nazi groups, defense officials say - Insider

That's obviously a problem that requires immediate change. But the federal government is a waste of space a far as leadership and will cave to anything this derelict administration demands. So I see more incidents like this on the horizon.

 

[Red Memories]

That's fine if you don't want to define a group of people as anything. But the US military has a huge problem with white nationalism (very clear they don't teach enlistees the difference between nationalism and patriotism), white supremacy, neo-Nazism and neo-Confederacy. The reason for the large amounts of military in groups like this is that it's not prohibited.

Military personnel can be in neo-Nazi groups, defense officials say - Insider

That's obviously a problem that requires immediate change. But the federal government is a waste of space a far as leadership and will cave to anything this derelict administration demands. So I see more incidents like this on the horizon.

absolutely, hence his point about them being "poorly vetted"
he thought it was crazy they checked their tattoos more than their actual philosophies.

 

[Lark]

absolutely, hence his point about them being "poorly vetted"
he thought it was crazy they checked their tattoos more than their actual philosophies.

I saw one of the military guys guarding the US memorial gardens and shrine when I visited it, the location is the one at which the Kennedys and others are buried and has graves dating back to the civil war, who had a tattoo which I was aware was a white supremacy symbol, a recent one, the one of the snake chopped up and representing different racist groups or ideas.

I did wonder about it at the time and that it was on display.

 

[Mind Maverick]

I keep thinking, "Could Trump be any more of an idiot?"
Then I catch up with Brazil's Bolsonaro and am sorry I asked.

 

[Virtual ghost]

75 years later ...

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

75 years later ...

Putin is way smarter than Trump and probably Johnson, though.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Putin is way smarter than Trump and probably Johnson, though.

More like: the west completely lost "the attention span".

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

AOC won the primary again!

 

[ceecee]

AOC won the primary again!

And Jamaal Bowman beat Eliot Engel who hasn't had a serious challenge in a couple decades. That's a big one.

It looks, overall, that the progressives had a good night in NY.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

And Jamaal Bowman beat Eliot Engel who hasn't had a serious challenge in a couple decades. That's a big one.

It looks, overall, that the progressives had a good night in NY.

Yup! I didn't know if he would have the name recognition here, though. I only just read about Bowman this morning.

 

[ceecee]

Students for Trump co-founder pleads guilty to $46,000 fraud scheme | Fox News

Students for Trump reminds me of the National Political Institutes of Education. Google if needed.

But it's yet one more piece of evidence that conservative criminals gonna crime and the GOP is a crime syndicate.