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When the instrumental section on Starship Trooper begins, it's like, we're descending towards the planet, and then we've launched, and we're sailing in a parachute over rainforests and canyons and deserts and oceans and islands and all kinds of things. It's great.
 

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@Polaris, does this have a fugue in it? Whatever it is, it's awesome.
Very dark, but very nice music. I didn't notice anything in it, though, that particularly sounded to my ears like a fugue. It does have some counterpoint going on, however, as would be the case with one, which is possibly what struck you as sounding fugue-like.

A fugue, for your information, is a style of contrapuntal music in which a melodic idea gets manipulated in various ways. In most fugues, the main melodic idea first gets sounded without accompaniment at the beginning of the piece. Then a second voice takes up that same melodic idea, usually transposing it up a perfect fourth or, more commonly, up a perfect fifth. A third voice, a fourth voice, any number of voices can join in in the same way as the second voice did. There is more to a fugue than that, but noticing what I've just described is probably the most straightforward way of spotting one.
 
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Very dark, but very nice music. I didn't notice anything in it, though, that particularly sounded to my ears like a fugue. It does have some counterpoint going on, however, as would be the case with one, which is possibly what struck you as sounding fugue-like.
Yes, I was comparing the voices with the guitars, and maybe there is something going on with in the guitars, also. I didn't know if I had the correct terminology.
A fugue, for your information, is a style of contrapuntal music in which a melodic idea gets manipulated in various ways. In most fugues, the main melodic idea first gets sounded without accompaniment at the beginning of the piece. Then a second voice takes up that same melodic idea, usually transposing it up a perfect fourth or, more commonly, up a perfect fifth. A third voice, a fourth voice, any number of voices can join in in the same way as the second voice did. There is more to a fugue than that, but noticing what I've just described is probably the most straightforward way of spotting one.
So a fugue is like a melody running in parallel?
 

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Yes, I was comparing the voices with the guitars, and maybe there is something going on with in the guitars, also. I didn't know if I had the correct terminology.

So a fugue is like a melody running in parallel?
Multiple melodies do move simultaneously (or in "counterpoint") within a fugue. That by itself doesn't necessarily make a piece a fugue, though. A fugue has, at minimum, the kind of imitation I described in my post above going on between its voices. Note that the imitation of the first voice by the second, third, etc. voices that enter the fugue is usually not sustained throughout the entire piece. Usually, there are a great many parts of a fugue where the voices cease to mimic each other and move with relative freedom. A piece where the imitation is perpetual is called a canon. Canons can double as fugues but in practice only do so very rarely.
 
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Multiple melodies do move simultaneously (or in "counterpoint") within a fugue. That by itself doesn't necessarily make a piece a fugue, though. A fugue has, at minimum, the kind of imitation I described in my post above going on between its voices. Note that the imitation of the first voice by the second, third, etc. voices that enter the fugue is usually not sustained throughout the entire piece. Usually, there are a great many parts of a fugue where the voices cease to mimic each other and move with relative freedom. A piece where the imitation is perpetual is called a canon. Canons can double as fugues but in practice only do so very rarely.
I know they come in D major. Canons.
 
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Suppose we have some sheet music with a fugue/canon written on it. Are the voices all occurring at the same time, as pure harmony? Or are they separated out so that individual melodies can be discerned?
 

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Suppose we have some sheet music with a fugue/canon written on it. Are the voices all occurring at the same time, as pure harmony? Or are they separated out so that individual melodies can be discerned?
There would generally be a mix of the two in most fugues and canons. At times, all of the voices would be heard playing simultaneously; at other times, some of the voices, perhaps even all but one of them, would drop out for a time... Of course, it should be noted that the two--pure harmony and individually discernible melodies--aren't mutually exclusive. One can still to a certain extent make out individual melodies when many voices are playing simultaneously, especially when the harmonies and melodies are well-constructed as they usually are in pieces by great contrapuntalists like J. S. Bach.
 
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There would generally be a mix of the two in most fugues and canons. At times, all of the voices would be heard playing simultaneously; at other times, some of the voices, perhaps even all but one of them, would drop out for a time... Of course, it should be noted that the two--pure harmony and individually discernible melodies--aren't mutually exclusive. One can still to a certain extent make out individual melodies when many voices are playing simultaneously, especially when the harmonies and melodies are well-constructed as they usually are in pieces by great contrapuntalists like J. S. Bach.
Right, especially if they are perfect fourths or fifths, I'm guessing? Thirds are like a weaker harmony, if I remember right.
 

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Right, especially if they are perfect fourths or fifths, I'm guessing? Thirds are like a weaker harmony, if I remember right.
Thirds (and their inversion, sixths) are "imperfect consonances," which means they reside in a middle ground between dissonances (seconds, tritones, and sevenths) and perfect consonances (perfect fourths, perfect fifths, unisons, and octaves). Their middling level of consonance makes them usually preferable, especially in two-note harmony, to dissonances and perfect consonances, the reason being that imperfect consonances are neither harsh like dissonances nor excessively peaceful-sounding like perfect consonances. They have just the right level of "spiciness" to keep the music flowing smoothly. Of course, a good composer doesn't use them exclusively (particularly not when writing for 3 or more voices, where it becomes difficult to avoid using perfect consonances frequently)--just preferentially.
 
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Thirds (and their inversion, sixths) are "imperfect consonances," which means they reside in a middle ground between dissonances (seconds, tritones, and sevenths) and perfect consonances (perfect fourths, perfect fifths, unisons, and octaves). Their middling level of consonance makes them usually preferable, especially in two-note harmony, to dissonances and perfect consonances, the reason being that imperfect consonances are neither harsh like dissonances nor excessively peaceful-sounding like perfect consonances. They have just the right level of "spiciness" to keep the music flowing smoothly. Of course, a good composer doesn't use them exclusively (particularly not when writing for 3 or more voices, where it becomes difficult to avoid using perfect consonances frequently)--just preferentially.
Wait, tritones are considered dissonant? That's a surprise to me.
 

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Wait, tritones are considered dissonant? That's a surprise to me.
Yes, they are. In fact, they're often considered the harshest, most unstable-sounding interval of all. Are you sure you're not confusing tritones with minor or major thirds? C and F# make a tritone; C and D# make a minor third; C and E make a major third.
 
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Yes, they are. In fact, they're often considered the harshest, most unstable-sounding interval of all. Are you sure you're not confusing tritones with minor or major thirds? C and F# make a tritone; C and D# make a minor third; C and E make a major third.
I'm thinking a 1,3,5 chord.
 
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I think this song would work well in an abandoned mall or backrooms or something like that.

(The ride was kind of like Willy Wonka but with less accidents and no bad trip boat ride portion.)
 
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This makes me nostalgic for a specific time and place.
 
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"A Bar Song (Tipsy)" by Shaboozey has got to be the most annoying thing ever invented by mankind. When I was riding the bus a couple of days ago, the driver, in a truly extraordinary show of bad taste, actually turned the radio up when said song started playing. Next time I hear it airing on the radio (which will no doubt be soon because it seems American radio takes some kind of sick pleasure in playing the song), I will find myself once again yearning for the ability to explode radios with my mind.
 
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"A Bar Song (Tipsy)" by Shaboozey has got to be the most annoying thing ever invented by mankind. When I was riding the bus a couple of days ago, the driver, in a truly extraordinary show of bad taste, actually turned the radio up when said song started playing. Next time I hear it airing on the radio (which will no doubt be soon because it seems American radio takes some kind of sick pleasure in playing the song), I will find myself once again yearning for the ability to explode radios with my mind.
Haha, I love this song. I like the almost lonesome wistfulness to it.

A song I hated back in the day was Hips Don't Lie by Shakira.

I do like Call Me Maybe, because it's so summery.
 
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