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Bad true things about you (shake your self-pity away, THEN write plz)
- Thread starter Ghost of the dead horse
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anii
homo-loving sonovagun
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- I procrastinate.
- I don't floss like I should.
- I covet others' successes, mates, talents, etc.
- I can usually manage stress, but once overly stressed, I kneejerk back to learned helplessness and passive victimhood.
- I suck at logic.
- I don't floss like I should.
- I covet others' successes, mates, talents, etc.
- I can usually manage stress, but once overly stressed, I kneejerk back to learned helplessness and passive victimhood.
- I suck at logic.
Economica
Dhampyr
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Excellent thread topic, Santtu! I'm finding the most self-aware replies very interesting. 
... And I really wasn't expecting an INTJ reply like Shaula's.
I think I'm getting over this one as I work through my perfectionism (and after having first gotten over my closed-minded certitude), but warping reality so that I am not at fault is definitely a tendency that I have to watch out for.
... On the plus side (sorry, but it's on-topic re: OP!) this tendency also means I can provide my own encouraging environment and thus don't need others to help me rationalize my negatives.
^ Case in point.
Yesss!
I used to have an innocence on this score, an arrogant certainty that I could execute any vision I had if I put my mind to it, but now I know that 1) in all visions involving other people there are all sorts of critical factors which are outside my control
and 2) my visions are not as perfect as I once thought. The combination of these two reality checks was paralyzing for several years and I am only now making baby steps to test my effectiveness after having been humbled by them.
+1. Gray areas and unknowns are stressful to me.
Uhh...
I actually think I've all but completely gotten over this one by now though.
Hmm. I don't think I make myself out to be more caring or humble than I really feel, at least not with those in my inner circle. However, it could be that I'm just not very conscious of adapting my persona for public consumption.
(The above doubt applies to RL. I'm quite sure I don't make myself out to be more caring or humble than I really feel here on the board.)
What's that INTJ tagline - I know a better way?
- I think I'm getting over this*, although not so much out of growth as because influencing (and thereby taking some degree of responsibility for) others has morphed from feeling like a feather in my cap to a burden after becoming aware of 1) and 2) above and hence it's not as often worth the trouble. (It's easier to be laissez-faire! Who would've thought? )
* That said, here's a recent instance of my critical coercion.
*spits water on keyboard* Here's another recent instance.
I want to disagree with this last one, but considering how often a person in my life has felt the need to tell me that "life is not a zero-sum game", I'm guessing this is instead a problem area that I haven't even begun processing yet.
More negatives, from least to most important:
- I'm prone to comfort eating and seemingly unable to maintain my ideal weight during stressful periods.
- I have a very poor feel for how others perceive me. Even knowing this and consciously seeking feedback, I only pick up on (and correctly interpret) the strongest of signals. Whenever I become aware of a discrepancy in how I thought others viewed me and how they actually view me, I don't know whether to laugh in bemusement (and/or relief) or cry in frustration (and/or embarrassment).
- My conscience is infantile. I hold myself to the standard of doing what is best for me, and so my actions are subject to change according to my whims with total disregard for how other people are affected. Did you take me at my word? Did you expect me to feel today what I felt yesterday? Were you unable to conceive that I would redefine my commitment? I'm so sorry for you!
I have never previously known the self-contempt which the realization of the above has taught me. Examining my actions with input from Ti users who refuse to let me warp reality is what forced the realization upon me. I can only hope that continuing to honestly look myself in the mirror will eventually nurture an integrity of my own.
... And I really wasn't expecting an INTJ reply like Shaula's.
I think I'm getting over this one as I work through my perfectionism (and after having first gotten over my closed-minded certitude), but warping reality so that I am not at fault is definitely a tendency that I have to watch out for.
... On the plus side (sorry, but it's on-topic re: OP!) this tendency also means I can provide my own encouraging environment and thus don't need others to help me rationalize my negatives.
^ Case in point.
Yesss!
I used to have an innocence on this score, an arrogant certainty that I could execute any vision I had if I put my mind to it, but now I know that 1) in all visions involving other people there are all sorts of critical factors which are outside my control
and 2) my visions are not as perfect as I once thought. The combination of these two reality checks was paralyzing for several years and I am only now making baby steps to test my effectiveness after having been humbled by them.+1. Gray areas and unknowns are stressful to me.
Uhh...
I actually think I've all but completely gotten over this one by now though.
Hmm. I don't think I make myself out to be more caring or humble than I really feel, at least not with those in my inner circle. However, it could be that I'm just not very conscious of adapting my persona for public consumption.
(The above doubt applies to RL. I'm quite sure I don't make myself out to be more caring or humble than I really feel here on the board.
)What's that INTJ tagline - I know a better way?
- I think I'm getting over this*, although not so much out of growth as because influencing (and thereby taking some degree of responsibility for) others has morphed from feeling like a feather in my cap to a burden after becoming aware of 1) and 2) above and hence it's not as often worth the trouble. (It's easier to be laissez-faire! Who would've thought? )* That said, here's a recent instance of my critical coercion.
*spits water on keyboard* Here's another recent instance.
I want to disagree with this last one, but considering how often a person in my life has felt the need to tell me that "life is not a zero-sum game", I'm guessing this is instead a problem area that I haven't even begun processing yet.
More negatives, from least to most important:
- I'm prone to comfort eating and seemingly unable to maintain my ideal weight during stressful periods.
- I have a very poor feel for how others perceive me. Even knowing this and consciously seeking feedback, I only pick up on (and correctly interpret) the strongest of signals. Whenever I become aware of a discrepancy in how I thought others viewed me and how they actually view me, I don't know whether to laugh in bemusement (and/or relief) or cry in frustration (and/or embarrassment).
- My conscience is infantile. I hold myself to the standard of doing what is best for me, and so my actions are subject to change according to my whims with total disregard for how other people are affected. Did you take me at my word? Did you expect me to feel today what I felt yesterday? Were you unable to conceive that I would redefine my commitment? I'm so sorry for you!
I have never previously known the self-contempt which the realization of the above has taught me. Examining my actions with input from Ti users who refuse to let me warp reality is what forced the realization upon me. I can only hope that continuing to honestly look myself in the mirror will eventually nurture an integrity of my own.
Amargith
Hotel California
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Lazy
Insecure
Scared of failure
too eager to please
stubborn and unreasonable when forced into something, even for my own good
Often off in other worlds and therefore unavailable to those trying to get my attention
A need to feel unique in who I am and what I do
Insecure
Scared of failure
too eager to please
stubborn and unreasonable when forced into something, even for my own good
Often off in other worlds and therefore unavailable to those trying to get my attention
A need to feel unique in who I am and what I do
The Ü™
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- I am wonderful.
- I am profound.
- I am powerful.
- I am intelligent.
- I am creative.
- I am clever.
- I am handsome.
- And it makes everyone else envious and want to kill me.
CJ99
Is Willard in Footloose!!
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I'm...
Way too hyper then way to cold with no inbetweeny bit!
Cruel to SJ type people because they annoy the hell out of me!
I under achieve constantly yet never change!
I'm cold to people just to see how they will react and too make things interesting!
I love to arue dumb people just to look good
Way too hyper then way to cold with no inbetweeny bit!
Cruel to SJ type people because they annoy the hell out of me!
I under achieve constantly yet never change!
I'm cold to people just to see how they will react and too make things interesting!
I love to arue dumb people just to look good
Fluffywolf
Nips away your dignity
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- Inability to do anything I don't see importance in doing.
That's my one and biggest flaw, and it reflects on many things in my life. But it is also something I know I'll never change. (I got better things to do with my time! )
That's my one and biggest flaw, and it reflects on many things in my life. But it is also something I know I'll never change. (I got better things to do with my time!
)
Salomé
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Recurring theme.... Why is this "bad"? It's just N.
LMAO! Thank you for that.
Domino
ENFJ In Chains
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The same reason I hate or am ashamed of my strong feelings - I can't control it. Something in the back of my mind tells me I can stay in the present if I just try hard enough, but I know that's simply delusion.
Quinlan
Intriguing....
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+1
- I lack any real ambition in life
- As soon as I get a complement I'm thinking up ways to disregard it
Kyrielle
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Here's another I just discovered, much to my displeasure:
I have a deep-seated fear of pain/rejection in response to an attempt at giving physical affection.
Because of the above, I lock up when in the face of physical affection and find myself physically unable to get myself to respond to what I mentally want myself to do. Like...I cannot get/have a hard time getting my body into motion to hug someone even if I want to hug that person very badly.
I have a deep-seated fear of pain/rejection in response to an attempt at giving physical affection.
Because of the above, I lock up when in the face of physical affection and find myself physically unable to get myself to respond to what I mentally want myself to do. Like...I cannot get/have a hard time getting my body into motion to hug someone even if I want to hug that person very badly.
