RedAmazoneFriendZone
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What do you mean by space? Physical space?
Your surrounding. HERE AND NOW. Territory.
What do you mean by space? Physical space?
Your surrounding. HERE AND NOW. Territory.
ESTP vs ENTP
The ESTP are those really popular guys who love to go out, experience the world in all of its sensory glory, often partaking in sports, daredevil activities, and partying. The ENTP, on the other hand, are the guys who are also outgoing and popular with the majority, but they are more intrigued in plotting something out of this world, such as becoming an entrepreneur or creating a work of art.
These are just simple stereotypes, of course. But its something I've observed. Without looking at you, I cannot exactly tell. I think you should tell me what you really enjoy doing on a daily basis?
I like physical activities for sure. I rock wall climb, canoe-kayak, fish, work out, kick box, shoot guns/archery, and travel on a regular basis. I get a certain 'rush' from it but I wouldn't say I'm addicted. I don't like to party and I don't do conventional sports nor do I follow sports. I'm an outgoing person and maintain a certain popularity with most people. I love conjuring up ideas of what kind of new shit I can do next.
On a daily basis I'll engage in any one or more of those activities above although during the work week time is more limited. I also don't mind coming home, going for a short work out or an enjoyable walk outside and then just marinating on the couch watching hulu or something, surfing the web for interesting topics, or coming on this forum with you fine people.
Typical perceivers.. forever second-guessing their own types.
These kinds of activities seem more ENTP to me, but of course, I could be terribly wrong. Only you know yourself better than most people, and I'm no professional at MBTI counseling. I think the part you wrote about you conjuring up ideas seem N type, not that S types never think or anything, but N types are more likely to really sit with themselves to think about the next thing to do, and are big idea people.
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Everybody gets confused, yo.
These kinds of activities seem more ENTP to me, but of course, I could be terribly wrong. Only you know yourself better than most people, and I'm no professional at MBTI counseling. I think the part you wrote about you conjuring up ideas seem N type, not that S types never think or anything, but N types are more likely to really sit with themselves to think about the next thing to do, and are big idea people.
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Everybody gets confused, yo.
A lot of ENTPs I know are lazy as fuck. Don't get me wrong they are outgoing and come up with great ideas ( well, most of the time) but that doesn't mean they will act on those ideas. I think about something ( i.e. i love toying with concepts, etc. ) but then I'll actually take some sort of action to see if I can materialize that in reality and I usually have to get my NTP friends to go along because they aren't really 'self-starters.'
Either I'm and ENTP with some sort of drive for action, which can be possibly related to my strong 8 wing in enneagram, or I'm an abstract ESTP. There could be a third option but I doubt it.
fyi, the activities you listed aren't 'N' activities. There are plenty of S's who like/do what you listed, and S's who have no interest in conventional sports or partying. You do sound pretty SP to me, rather than NT in temperament.
A lot of ENTPs I know are lazy as fuck. Don't get me wrong they are outgoing and come up with great ideas ( well, most of the time) but that doesn't mean they will act on those ideas. I think about something ( i.e. i love toying with concepts, etc. ) but then I'll actually take some sort of action to see if I can materialize that in reality and I usually have to get my NTP friends to go along because they aren't really 'self-starters.'
Either I'm and ENTP with some sort of drive for action, which can be possibly related to my strong 8 wing in enneagram, or I'm an abstract ESTP. There could be a third option but I doubt it.
It also has to do with your age. As we grow older, we start to balance out our inferior and auxiliary functions. Here's something that might be of interest to you: Scroll down until you reach Phase II (20s-30s)
as a point on things here from an SP viewpoint
I am not a partier or a sports person really
I am, however, the one who is most likely to say "are we just going to talk about this or are we actually going to do something about it?" and am the most likely one to react first if something needs to be fixed somewhere or if something's going to go wrong
as someone else in their 30s, I've found that I've come to trust my intuition quite a bit with things and do have a lot of stereotypically N type interests and am getting a lot nicer and more aware of the feelings of others as well (which is horrifying)... I'm good at coming up with out of the box solutions for things and don't tend to do things the conventional way just because they've always been done that way when I can SEE how the entire system works and understand how manipulating one part will affect the entire thing and that includes people systems as well.
the dividing line between N and S is not as crisp as typology descriptions would lead people to believe
Organized, team sports seems to be something that would be more popular with Te valuing types.
Yeah, And Fe too.
So unfortunately I'm still an N and I can't shake this Ne. After some self-evaluation I've determined my motivation for action is more related to my enneagram than MBTI type.
Most of my closest friends growing up are ESTPs and I think we've picked up on each other's traits to some degree or another.