Random Politics Thread

[Virtual ghost]

I would agree that the photo illustrates a serious problem - that the parties are treated as sports teams to root for. But while there clearly is not enough choice in the US they most definitely aren't the same. That's not just nonsense but cynical blindness to what is currently going on. If you are offered the choice between bread and cyanide you can complain about the lack of fruit and vegetable on offer, campaign for the introcduction of chocolate bars all you want... but if you pick the cyanide because you are sick and tired of bread or if you refuse to pick and let others do it for you you might soon not even be able anymore to pick and eat bread or fruit or anything for that matter.

With all due respect I think you are being kinda idealistic here. With the start of the current week the debt clock has said that the sum of all debt in USA has surpassed 100 Trillion $. What means that the ship is sinking regardless of people voting for bread or cyanide. It is easy to moralize about the issue when the full might of European welfare state is standing behind you. However when that is not the case and you have to live in American reality then it really isn't unfair to say that you don't really see the difference. Since the debt, crime, greed and nonsense are sinking the ship regardless of who is in power. Changes in power really don't make that much of a difference to the average Joe (especially on the long run). Therefore I think you kinda missed the real point of that post. Plus in the case you haven't noticed: the Americans on this forum are having "mental preparations" when they have to vote for what you call "bread". Feel free to ask them about that in the case you haven't noticed.


Just saying.

 

[The Cat]

With all due respect I think you are being kinda idealistic here. With the start of the current week the debt clock has said that the sum of all debt in USA has surpassed 100 Trillion $. What means that the ship is sinking regardless of people voting for bread or cyanide. It is easy to moralize about the issue when the full might of European welfare state is standing behind you. However when that is not the case and you have to live in American reality then it really isn't unfair to say that you don't really see the difference. Since the debt, crime, greed and nonsense are sinking the ship regardless of who is in power. Changes in power really don't make that much of a difference to the average Joe (especially on the long run). Therefore I think you kinda missed the real point of that post. Plus in the case you haven't noticed: the Americans on this forum are having "mental preparations" when they have to vote for what you call "bread". Feel free to ask them about that in the case you haven't noticed.


Just saying.

I'm not sure what you mean by having mental preparations to vote for not fascism.

Just saying.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

I'm not sure what you mean by having mental preparations to vote for not fascism.

Just saying.

I have seen regular people here saying that the democratic party has lost it's way. Or statements that in the end come down to "thank God that I am in a safe Democratic state, so that I don't have to vote for them. Plus there were evident disappointments in the terms of foreign policy.

Therefore since I am person that tends to track the score in my head I came to conclusion that most in the end vote blue just so that the red doesn't win. Not because people are actually thrilled about voting blue. The impression is that many stay home, while decent chunk is having mental preparations before they vote blue in the end. But they know that they have to do that, since otherwise it could get even worse for them.

That is just my impression, here and in various comment sections.

 

[Red Herring]

I have seen regular people here saying that the democratic party has lost it's way. Or statements that in the end come down to "thank God that I am in a safe Democratic state, so that I don't have to vote for them. Plus there were evident disappointments in the terms of foreign policy.

Therefore since I am person that tends to track the score in my head I came to conclusion that most in the end vote blue just so that the red doesn't win. Not because people are actually thrilled about voting blue. The impression is that many stay home, while decent chunk is having mental preparations before they vote blue in the end. But they know that they have to do that, since otherwise it could get even worse for them.

That is just my impression, here and in various comment sections.

That is pretty much exactly what I said about the bread and the cyanide ...

 

[Virtual ghost]

That is pretty much exactly what I said about the bread and the cyanide ...

Ok, but if you agree with me here then the more more correct analogy would be cyanide vs. bread with some cyanide in it.

But ok, I am not here because I am trying to turn people from voting. This is all just a spin off from a different conversation.

 

[Red Herring]

Ok, but if you agree with me here then the more more correct analogy would be cyanide vs. bread with some cyanide in it.

But ok, I am not here because I am trying to turn people from voting. This is all just a spin off from a different conversation.

What you and I are used to would be the fruit and vegetables in this analogy.

And yes, probably not a good idea to contribute to cynicism and despair and drive people away from voting.

 

[Virtual ghost]

What you and I are used to would be the fruit and vegetables in this analogy.

Of course, especially since we live under GMO ban.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Trump says abortion should be up to states. Here’s where it’s banned — and where it’s protected.

 

[The Cat]

Of course, especially since we live under GMO ban.

I laugh but its actually pretty horrifying to many of us. Good joke though.

 

[The Cat]

 

[The Cat]

I laugh but its actually pretty horrifying to many of us. Good joke though.

You think that's crazy Past Cat, wait till you think about how you used to wonder how people in underdeveloped countries could eat and drink around so much poison and bad run off....why the same way you can dear chap. You try not to think about, and shut up and eat it, and drink your boiled water.

 

[The Cat]

You think that's crazy Past Cat, wait till you think about how you used to wonder how people in underdeveloped countries could eat and drink around so much poison and bad run off....why the same way you can dear chap. You try not to think about, and shut up and eat it, and drink your boiled water.

I can see why you're not everyone's cup of tea when it comes to getting bad news.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I think I'm one user that is being referred to with the mental preparations. For me, it's always come down to voting for the lesser of two evils, even my first election was like that. In a sense, it's just business as usual.

 

[Quick]

I have seen regular people here saying that the democratic party has lost it's way. Or statements that in the end come down to "thank God that I am in a safe Democratic state, so that I don't have to vote for them. Plus there were evident disappointments in the terms of foreign policy.

Therefore since I am person that tends to track the score in my head I came to conclusion that most in the end vote blue just so that the red doesn't win. Not because people are actually thrilled about voting blue. The impression is that many stay home, while decent chunk is having mental preparations before they vote blue in the end. But they know that they have to do that, since otherwise it could get even worse for them.

That is just my impression, here and in various comment sections.

I mean, honestly, you have massive propaganda on both sides demonizing each other. Biden cannot even say two full sentences properly. I can't stand Trump (which is what your post relates to) but he's better than Biden since Biden is mentally handicapped at this point. I don't know who is running the country atm but it is not Biden who shakes hands with the air after a speech.

No, I will not be voting for Trump in 2024. But I cannot for the life of me vote for someone who is not all there in the head either. That is why I am voting for Peter Sonski from the American Solidarity Party.

 

[SensEye]

Swing and a miss from ol' Beau on this one. There is zero chance Trump wants to end up in jail. He's like a spoiled child. And even the most easy going low security lock up would annoy him to no end. Baby would want his binky and would not be able to get it in confinement. He'd never tolerate it. Beau should know that.

And sure enough, Trump's quieted down since the judge finally seemed to get serious.

PS> I suspect the judge will back down if Trump can't contain himself and violates his gag order again. The judge should not be concerned about political consequences when applying the law, but it's obvious he is (or Trump would have been confined already).

 

[Virtual ghost]

Judge Cannon indefinitely postpones Trump’s classified docs trial

 

[Quick]

On another note, if someone said this, would you consider them a racist?

“Young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don’t even know what the word computer is.”

 

[The Cat]

 

[Quick]

Personally, I don't think Trump with all the court cases is any worse than the majority of career politicians. Biden has dirt on him as well. So did Clinton, Bush, etc. They are all corrupt.