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[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Democrats beg Biden for higher China tariffs in play for swing state voters

This seems like a good idea, except for that fact that it might mean China and Russia grow closer. The rare minerals tariffs also seem stupid. If they're rare, how are people going to find an alternative? The only thing that happens is that Amerians pay more; this does nothing to revitalize the US economy or strengthen ties with allies or anything like that.

 

[Virtual ghost]

This seems like a good idea, except for that fact that it might mean China and Russia grow closer. The rare minerals tariffs also seem stupid. If they're rare, how are people going to find an alternative? The only thing that happens is that Amerians pay more; this does nothing to revitalize the US economy or strengthen ties with allies or anything like that.

First of all Russia and China already have signed "unlimited partnership" and they co-lead various anti-western organizations. As a matter of fact war Ukraine wouldn't really be possible at this point in the case that China is against it. Since China and it's proxies are keeping Russia in the game. Therefore that ship has sailed and you can't really separate the two at this point.

While when it comes to mentioned rare resources: just because they are rare that doesn't mean that they doesn't exist somewhere else. Therefore when you put tariffs on China you are basically forcing companies to search resources somewhere else. What means that you are basically decoupling US and China's economies. What makes it much easier to consolidate the western block in global matters. In other words when the blocks become more clearly separated there will be less instability and regional wars. Which are basically the product of current undefined state of the world. Free for all globalization has failed and new order still hasn't be established. Therefore speeding up all consolidations is almost surely a good idea.

 

[The Cat]

This seems like a good idea, except for that fact that it might mean China and Russia grow closer. The rare minerals tariffs also seem stupid. If they're rare, how are people going to find an alternative? The only thing that happens is that Amerians pay more; this does nothing to revitalize the US economy or strengthen ties with allies or anything like that.

you'd be surprised.

 

[Virtual ghost]

The 8 Types Of Democrats And Republicans In The House

 

[The Cat]

I'll bet those clusters change in some interesting ways if you go by porn search history. Im betting there's a lot of furries on the hill.

 

[ceecee]

I'll bet those clusters change in some interesting ways if you go by porn search history. Im betting there's a lot of furries on the hill.

The fact that there is no Labor caucus pisses me off.

If we go by porn history, I'm betting it goes;

• Gay (especially with the GOP, there are all kinds of repressed homosexuals, married to women, claiming to be Christians of course)
• Trans
• Ebony/Black
• Orgy/Gangbang
• Furries/ Henatai

 

[Totenkindly]

Poor little dear.... Her life has been so hard.

 

[The Cat]

Poor little dear.... Her life has been so hard.

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She does not translate well to the page. She looks like how most westerns feel.

 

[Quick]

I can't stand Trump. Can't stand Biden more.

I think Trump is a pompous arrogant jerk and Biden does not know where the bathroom is.

American Solidarity Party FTW!!!

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

Biden’s allies move to sink RFK Jr.

 

[SensEye]

It's a real shame all of the third party candidates are crackpots. If a sensible, middle of the road unaffiliated candidate was running, I bet s/he would get a lot of votes.

If I were an American voter I'd certainly park my vote with a palatable independent as a form of protest. As it is, I think I would just not vote this time around. While this might pave the way for a possible Trump victory (and the chaos that could result in), four more years of Biden incompetence is equally disturbing. I think more people are starting to feel this way, and if so, Trump's chances of winning look better and better.

 

[Virtual ghost]

It's a real shame all of the third party candidates are crackpots. If a sensible, middle of the road unaffiliated candidate was running, I bet s/he would get a lot of votes.

If I were an American voter I'd certainly park my vote with a palatable independent as a form of protest. As it is, I think I would just not vote this time around. While this might pave the way for a possible Trump victory (and the chaos that could result in), four more years of Biden incompetence is equally disturbing. I think more people are starting to feel this way, and if so, Trump's chances of winning look better and better.

Yes, it is for the crackpots for the most part. Since it is all just for the show (because they can't win due to the mindset of the nation). Therefore more average people are trying to make their gains by climbing through 2 parties ... and where they end up they end up. Since this way they will probably achieve more in the terms of results. What is because third party looses by default (the odds that only a crackpot would take).

 

[Quick]

Yes, it is for the crackpots for the most part. Since it is all just for the show (because they can't win due to the mindset of the nation). Therefore more average people are trying to make their gains by climbing through 2 parties ... and where they end up they end up. Since this way they will probably achieve more in the terms of results. What is because third party looses by default (the odds that only a crackpot would take).

As long as people are saying what you are saying we will always be a two-party system.

 

[Virtual ghost]

As long as people are saying what you are saying we will always be a two-party system.

Over the years I did my fair share of analytics about the two party system on this forum. However in the end it has always turned that the system has clearly prevailed no matter what. Therefore I came to conclusions that perhaps this isn't a bug but a feature.

 

[Quick]

Over the years I did my fair share of analytics about the two party system on this forum. However in the end it has always turned that the system has clearly prevailed no matter what. Therefore I came to conclusions that perhaps this isn't a bug but a feature.

I strongly disagree. It's close to a (temporary) monarchy at this point.

 

[SensEye]

The problem with the current 2 party system is the two parties are highly invested in keeping it that way. Why would either the Dems or the Republicans support changing to a system that would allow more competition? They won't, and since they have to approve any change to the current system, they don't even consider it. And they would bind together to oppose it if some 'radical' ever tried to bring changes up for a vote.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I strongly disagree. It's close to a (temporary) monarchy at this point.

Perhaps but that doesn't mean that it isn't a feature. "Feature" isn't fundamentally positive term.

After all people in US tend to ignore primary voting for the most part. While this is the closest there is to the multi-party system in the country. However people don't seem to be all that interested even if there are primaries for all kinds of seats. Therefore saying that the static system is a feature doesn't strike me as that much of overstatement.

 

[Quick]

Perhaps but that doesn't mean that it isn't a feature. "Feature" isn't fundamentally positive term.

After all people in US tend to ignore primary voting for the most part. While this is the closest there is to the multi-party system in the country. However people don't seem to be all that interested even if there are primaries for all kinds of seats. Therefore saying that the static system is a feature doesn't strike me as that much of overstatement.

The problem with a two-party system (they are both the same) in one image:

 

[Red Herring]

The problem with a two-party system (they are both the same) in one image:

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I would agree that the photo illustrates a serious problem - that the parties are treated as sports teams to root for. But while there clearly is not enough choice in the US they most definitely aren't the same. That's not just nonsense but cynical blindness to what is currently going on. If you are offered the choice between bread and cyanide you can complain about the lack of fruit and vegetable on offer, campaign for the introcduction of chocolate bars all you want... but if you pick the cyanide because you are sick and tired of bread or if you refuse to pick and let others do it for you you might soon not even be able anymore to pick and eat bread or fruit or anything for that matter.