Random Star Wars Thoughts

[The Cat]

A part of me will always wonder what sequel trilogies we could have gotten without the obsession with the original cast...

 

[The Cat]

This shit was written by whales or manatees or something.

Manatees are extremely ethical writers...

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

A part of me will always wonder what sequel trilogies we could have gotten without the obsession with the original cast...

Part of me wishes they’d pulled a TNG and set it a clean 100 years after A New Hope. Enough to clean the narrative and character slate but you could still believe it was a part of the same universe and overall story.

 

[Totenkindly]

Yeahhhhh....

OBI WAN KENOBI : E5 Review

Episode 5 of Obi Wan Kenobi is now streaming on Dinsey+, it was a bit better, but there is still bad writing to contend with.

www.lastmovieoutpost.com

 

[The Cat]

Yeahhhhh....

OBI WAN KENOBI : E5 Review

Episode 5 of Obi Wan Kenobi is now streaming on Dinsey+, it was a bit better, but there is still bad writing to contend with.

www.lastmovieoutpost.com

It's nice to see that one can still fail upward in the Empire at least...though that may be the wrong kind of realism to bring to the script.

 

[Totenkindly]

Welp, the finale for Obi-Wan is out.

My son and I watched it together. We enjoyed it more than other episodes but were not expecting much and we still had more than enough fun heckling the stupid parts and yelling at the screen during more badassery parts.

I have to say that Vader must have been laughing his ass off at Luke in TESB, as his kid was trying so hard and thought he had undergone decent Jedi training but it's clear the kid was still just a kid. Vader was holding back the entire time based on what we see here.

Specific comments about the episode in spoilers:

• A decent lightsaber fight, contrasting with the last one on Mustafar, and more about Force use than necessary lightsaber play -- but Vader actually looks really strong here, the choreography was generally decent aside from Obi-Wan was throwing in a few flourishes to show off. I was curious how they would handle this and it's similar to what Vader did in Rogue One, he might not be as fast as he was when he was Anakin, but he's probably more terrifying.
• I wished Vader's dialogue was better. It's almost like he got a lobotomy when Palpatine fixed him up -- although honestly his lines/delivery was never really good in the prequels I guess either.
• The episode actually tries to correct two separate things from ANH and generally succeeds, although we never asked it to do that. The first is why Leia doesn't react much when Ben dies in ANH and Luke does react; while it's actually because Star Wars came first and the rest was added later as subtext (duh), here they actually have a throwaway line to explain it. The other is the old joke about how Ben lied to Luke about how his father died, saying "Darth Vader killed him" and then brushing it aside as it "being true in a way"; here is it made explicit when Vader tells Ben that he's not one of Ben's failures, he as Darth killed Anakin and Anakin no longer exists.
• Along with this latter thing, Ben's peace over their final meeting in ANH is also now aligned as well, and it's really interesting at least in the sense their first fight was mostly a young man's fight, about pure physical strength, their second fight (here) was more about the mature man power (with far more dependence on the force), and in their third match it's not really a fight but about Ben using it to help the twins escape + joining with the Force, and Vader almost doesn't matter nor can really hurt Ben.
• The plotline with Reva was butchered unfortunately because of lack of information. The information on the recording is really garbled at the end of the last episode, and I spent much of this one wondering why she was trying to kill Luke. By the very end, I realized she was trying to kill Luke because she surmised he was Vader's son and since she couldn't kill Vader, she wanted to hurt him instead out of revenge? But why would that hurt Vader, as opposed to the rebel alliance? (Or was it because he was important to Ben and/or the rebellion and she was made at Ben?) This is a huge screwup, as it isn't something really hard to get right and somehow they forgot to telegraph why one of the main plot drivers was doing what she was doing. This shouldn't have happened. I even went back and rewatched the message she saw with the captions on, and it still wasn't entirely clear. Boo on you, Disney, you suck.
• In any case, Reva is now probably gonna get some kind of spinoff or show up elsewhere since she is still alive. Disney, you super suck. No offense to Reva, just to stupid corporate cash flow projects.
• Another bad mark: WTF is up with people taking fatal wounds and just shrugging them off? Not sure how people are taking torso shots with lightsabers (getting run through), which will cauterize their insides including their digestive system (or worse, depending on what gets run through) and show up later as if nothing happened. First the Grand Inquisitor takes a shot from Reva; we can assume maybe with Empire resources he was healed somehow; but Reva, left for dead, without any resources? Worse, it makes Qi-Gon look like a dork, since he simply died; did he just lose the "will to live"?
• Leia was annoyingly in charge of everything even as a nine-year-old, but I guess it fits her character; this show feels like the woman she became. Also helps flesh out why she is a princess with a blaster. I was okay with all this character reveal.
• Owen and Beru come off as libertarians hiding in their bunker fighting off intruders, roflmao. They start blasting the shit out of Reva, which is amusing, and throwing shit down her on like flowerpots and other things. Reva really takes a beating even though they honestly have no chance -- about as much as Reva had no chance taking on Vader in Episode 5 (which was interesting in itself -- Vader doesn't even use a saber to deflect her attacks for a bit, then gives her a saber, then after she's all played out with no ability to hurt him, that's when he wounds her). In any case, I felt this portrayal of Owen and Beru was fair in regards to ANH.
• Okay, I was like, "I'm so glad they haven't show Qi-Gon and Ben keeps trying to talk to him but failing," because that was such a dumb line of Yoda's at the end of ROTS, and my son's like, "You know he's going to appear at the end, right?" and I knew in my heart he was right but it was gonna piss me off. So yeah. At least I was prepared for it. But arggg. How much did Liam get paid for about 2 minutes of work?
• I don't really want to see another Obi-Wan season. I think the only story that needed to be told was already told. Time to move on. But of course we'll see as much Obi-Wan as we are going to continue to see stupid Jurassic Whatever dinosaurs because all that matters is if it made money.

 

[Totenkindly]

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Fallen Order still did the dark times era better than any other Disney era production has yet done. In terms of the overall vibe and scope, the sense of hopelessness, the visual decay of the remnants of the old republic, everything. I'm not sure why it's been so impossible to achieve something close to that with Rebels, Solo, and now Kenobi. It's a shame because I most wanted to see more of this particular era filled in. I really hope they revisit Cal's story or at least do a similar story focused on other jedi-in-hiding.

 

[Totenkindly]

Star Wars: 10 Things In Disney+'s Obi-Wan Kenobi That Make No Sense

Somehow... the plot holes returned...

whatculture.com

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

It's just telling when video games are outpacing film and TV in just about every aspect of storytelling and connecting with audiences. SW probably being one of the best examples--a franchise with a spotty record for video games; yet with just about everything produced since Disney took over, the video games and comics are probably the few good things now coming out of the SW franchise, while most of the rest ranges from bad to average.

For almost every popular series or film now, there is a superior story in the same genre on video game.

 

[Totenkindly]

 

[The Cat]

Knees. Obi Wan and Anakin have them. It's an interesting observation that the worse your knees get with age, the less jedi leap fighting you should do. It's good the show runners acknowledge this.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Knees. Obi Wan and Anakin have them. It's an interesting observation that the worse your knees get with age, the less jedi leap fighting you should do. It's good the show runners acknowledge this.

Well, it would be necessary to keep it consistent with what's been established. Anyway, I still haven't gotten that far in the series.

 

[The Cat]

Well, it would be necessary to keep it consistent with what's been established. Anyway, I still haven't gotten that far in the series.

Everything always works out exactly as it should in Star Wars, because it's star wars. the star wars dm is very permissive into the rule of cool.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Everything always works out exactly as it should in Star Wars, because it's star wars. the star wars dm is very permissive into the rule of cool.

Indeed, rule of cool is very important in Star Wars. Which is why I roll my eyes at people doing things like complaining about bombs falling in space (you mean like they did in the Original Trilogy?)

So far the buzz about Kenobi here has not been super-great. I haven't been super-impressed with it so far, but I don't hate it. I'm two episodes in.

The Inquisitors do seem rather dumb.

Also I was somewhat bothered by just how much like her adult self Leia was, but I think I might being a little unfair because preciousness was part of the character from the beginning, being an 18 year old Senator and all.

 

[The Cat]

Indeed, rule of cool is very important in Star Wars. Which is why I roll my eyes at people doing things like complaining about bombs falling in space (you mean like they did in the Original Trilogy?)

So far the buzz about Kenobi here has not been super-great. I haven't been super-impressed with it so far, but I don't hate it. I'm two episodes in.

The Inquisitors do seem rather dumb.

Also I was somewhat bothered by just how much like her adult self Leia was, but I think I might being a little unfair because preciousness was part of the character from the beginning, being an 18 year old Senator and all.

There are only two things you need to do to use the force: Let go and let the force flow through you. And do or do not. A good inquisitor cant afford to let anything go, and the Sith believe that to succeed, one must first try...so narratively speaking...they're kinda fucked by design. The red light sabers mean they don't win.

 

[yeghor]

When they land on a planet, why does it always have breatable air, favorable temperature and pressure and no harmful microbes? Did they terraform all the planets in the vicinity?

So many alien life forms and they can all live in the same habitat without any need for protective gear?

Whenever they want to lock a door, they just shoot at the control panel?

What would happen if they threw fast projectiles at a jedi instead of lasers like a gatling gun?

So many hazardous workplaces?

Edit: What would happen if there was flammable gas around and the Jedi turned on the lightsaber?

They keep shooting Star Wars movies/series as if they were spagetti westerns.

I wish someone would undertake to make a more realistic, darker movie that would push the jedi/sith to the background a bit. It's like everything revolves around jedi/sith and all other invidiuals and characters do not have any agency in the world. You either have to be Sith or Jedi to have an impact on the world?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

There are only two things you need to do to use the force: Let go and let the force flow through you. And do or do not. A good inquisitor cant afford to let anything go, and the Sith believe that to succeed, one must first try...so narratively speaking...they're kinda fucked by design. The red light sabers mean they don't win.

*pushes up glasses*

Technically the inquisitors are not Sith.

 

[The Cat]

*pushes up glasses*

Technically the inquisitors are not Sith.

Technically there's more than one dysfunctional family in the galaxy...but that isn't what Star Wars is. Also Technically the Sith aren't Sith and haven't been for a long time. Technically the rule of two is more of what you might call "guidelines" than actual rule. Technically there's only one reason to make droids feel(especially fear and doubt and pain) then subjugating them on a galactic scale. Also technically the book of Boba fett is technically season 2.5 of the Mandalorian...And also also finally, technically the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1. Yet here we are...

It's not the best space story in the library...but its got disney marketing.
So come on down to Crazy Luke's Used Droids. Where prices are so low you'll think the staff has been mind tricked.
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[yeghor]

Rest in peace El Risitas...