Coronavirus

[The Cat]

 

[Jaguar]

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[Red Herring]

Switzerland (not exactly a third world country) doesn't have a single free ICU bed left in their hospitals. They're now entering "sorry, we can't treat you and neither can we treat the young motorbiker who just had an accident on the highway" territory.

 

[Jaguar]

The end of the 1918 pandemic wasn’t, however, just the result of so many people catching it that immunity became widespread. Social distancing was also key. Public health advice on curbing the spread of the virus was eerily similar to that of today: citizens were encouraged to stay healthy through campaigns promoting mask-wearing, frequent hand-washing, quarantining and isolating of patients, and the closure of schools, public spaces and non-essential businesses—all steps designed to cut off routes for the virus’ spread.

In fact, a study that Markel and Navarro co-authored, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2007, found that U.S. cities that implemented more than one of these aforementioned control measures earlier and kept them in place longer had better, less deadly outcomes than cities that implemented fewer of these control measures and did not do so until later.

How did the 1918 Flu Pandemic End? Lessons for COVID-19 | Time

 

[Lexicon]

South Dakota ER nurse recalls how dying coronavirus patients spend last minutes insisting virus isn't real

According to hr recent Twitter posts, she’s getting death threats, now.

 

[ceecee]

According to hr recent Twitter posts, she’s getting death threats, now.

And they wonder why they all get called deplorable.

 

[Jaguar]

According to hr recent Twitter posts, she’s getting death threats, now.

I think political operatives are heavily involved in the virus backlash. It's orchestrated. And they all should be thrown off a cliff.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

According to hr recent Twitter posts, she’s getting death threats, now.

This is very upsetting.

There is a disturbing aspect of karma that might be a bitch sooner rather than later for folks treating nurses like this and dismissing the pandemic. I wonder how many of these belligerent people might die. I don't want to allow myself to desire that because the death penalty is a severe punishment for being an asshole, but there is a reality acting upon us that no amount of tantrums or imaginings is going to stop. What is the world going to be like after all the tantrumy people insist on getting severe cases of COVID-19? What is the world going to look like in several months to a year? People defiantly keep accumulating exposure, gathering up their little viral doses at this bar and then the next. We haven't entered the darkest chapter yet, but the wave is radiating out towards the coasts yet again and the cold winter and indoor lingering will cause viral build up on surfaces, in the air, and the defiant are going to gather them up, and millions of wars will be fought in the cells of people who imagine a reality that never existed.

 

[The Cat]

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[The Cat]

And they wonder why they all get called deplorable.

on some level they have to know. That level of overcompensation, on some level...they have to know... Don't they? -_- ...fuck.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

^People who blatantly lie and falsify documents aren't going to have a problem with a politician who does it. This mentality could know the election was not rigged but go along with the narrative to get what they want. People who fake government documents value blatant falsehoods so of course they support Trump. They like how he plays the game.

We will see how it plays out. The disturbing fact is that some are going to get themselves killed. It's possible Trump will run again in 2024 but not have enough support because too large a percentage of his followers actually died of Covid-19. We haven't seen the peak of infections yet so it's difficult to determine the death toll. I don't think being an asshole deserves the death penalty, but 'Fate' may have another notion. It's an unimaginable situation.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

More info on mink farm infections and mutations.
COVID mink analysis shows mutations are not dangerous — yet

 

[Z Buck McFate]

^People who blatantly lie and falsify documents aren't going to have a problem with a politician who does it. This mentality could know the election was not rigged but go along with the narrative to get what they want. People who fake government documents value blatant falsehoods so of course they support Trump. They like how he plays the game.

I think a lot of them don't necessarily know they're lying and relying on false documents, but rather have a wonky relationship to authority and a limited capacity to deal with unknowns. It's a really peculiar that people tend to cope with uncertainty and the consequent stress (of when the uncertainty is about something that's actually a big deal) by leaning in and putting ALL their chips on one very specific possibility - shutting off all parts of their conscious mind that might lead to a change their perspective with new information, and instead pouring all that energy into dismissing new information that threatens the static perspective they're clinging to. The knee-jerk reaction to dismiss contrary information *feels* like putting out little fires with a fire extinguisher as they surface, before they have a chance to grow - but it's actually an attempt to stifle unwanted emotions caused by uncertainty. This Pema Chodron quote is coming to mind: "You are the sky, everything else is just the weather." People like the woman in that video seem, to me, caught up in the turbulence of their own storm because acknowledging the uncertainty (which would enable her to steadfastly observe the storm instead of being 100% at the mercy of and controlled by it, and would enable her to let those "little fires" burn instead of compulsively trying to put them out) is too unbearable. The result is what Fromm calls narcissism (not malignant or NPD caliber, just garden variety "when people become too stressed, a preoccupation with avoiding suffering actually starts causing suffering left and right in oneself and others without the capacity to take responsibility for it" type narcissism). And an even more bizarre thing about all this is that this^ behavior actually looks like 'strength' to people with a similarly wonky relationship to authority and limited capacity to deal with unknowns.

The whole country is going Defcon 4, and triggering this innate human frailty in people all over the place. That's not to say that makes the behavior acceptable or less harmful.

I've kinda lost what my point was.

Carry on.

 

[ceecee]

The Strange and Twisted Tale of Hydroxychloroquine | WIRED

“Tech, and especially Silicon Valley, has this belief that all you have to do is disrupt things and try shit and make it stick to the wall, and it will work and change everything,” says one investor with a long history in health care. “We've had a tried-and-true method of getting vaccinations and drugs approved in the US that is absolutely antithetical to everything the tech industry believes and has found to be true.”

To be fair, the ethics of demanding rigorous, time-consuming tests during a pandemic are worth debating. In a sense, this is about medicine now versus science later. Correctly administered, hydroxychloroquine only rarely has serious side effects; it's a well-understood, mostly safe drug. Why not just give it to everyone and monitor their outcomes? That's a very Silicon Valley approach—intermediate risk, high reward. “I appreciate some of the tech people coming to health care, because I do think we should be thinking about some things differently. Having fresh thinking is great. But fresh thinking is different from illogical thinking or uncaring thinking,” the investor tells me. “If you're a tech guy flacking hydroxychloroquine to people who shouldn't use it, what the fuck? People can get really sick.”

Of all the stuff published on COVID, I think these two paragraphs sum up exactly where this country went and why this country sucks beyond belief.

Opinions don't equal expertise and it doesn't matter if you are some MAGA chud with a high school diploma who feels entirely entitled to direct federal pandemic response via Twitter. After all, they read several Briebart articles, libs need to recognize their epidemiology skillz! Or some completely socially backwards tech bro that thinks because they're white and rich, they should not be questioned and their ideas and conclusions are clearly correct because......they're white and rich?

Oh and one more thing for the fans. Trump's "COVID" hospitalization drug cocktail contained a bunch of drugs like remdesivir and monoclonal antibodies. Guess what wasn't in that cocktail? Hydroxychloroquine.

Just to remind - Right now, 18 of the top 50 deadliest COVID hotspots in the world are US states. This is almost entirely due to zero comprehensive national response to COVID and allowing states to peace-meal responses, which is completely pointless and that's proven more and more true by the day.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

The Strange and Twisted Tale of Hydroxychloroquine | WIRED





Of all the stuff published on COVID, I think these two paragraphs sum up exactly where this country went and why this country sucks beyond belief.

Opinions don't equal expertise and it doesn't matter if you are some MAGA chud with a high school diploma who feels entirely entitled to direct federal pandemic response via Twitter. After all, they read several Briebart articles, libs need to recognize their epidemiology skillz! Or some completely socially backwards tech bro that thinks because they're white and rich, they should not be questioned and their ideas and conclusions are clearly correct because......they're white and rich?

Oh and one more thing for the fans. Trump's "COVID" hospitalization drug cocktail contained a bunch of drugs like remdesivir and monoclonal antibodies. Guess what wasn't in that cocktail? Hydroxychloroquine.

Just to remind - Right now, 18 of the top 50 deadliest COVID hotspots in the world are US states. This is almost entirely due to zero comprehensive national response to COVID and allowing states to peace-meal responses, which is completely pointless and that's proven more and more true by the day.

There's also the fact that lots of people depend on that drug already and by driving up demand you can create shortages. My cousin, for example, had trouble getting the hydroxychloroquine needed to treat her Lupus. Ironically, her father literally has a MAGA hat. I guess he can't see the connection.

 

[Vendrah]

Just to remind - Right now, 18 of the top 50 deadliest COVID hotspots in the world are US states. This is almost entirely due to zero comprehensive national response to COVID and allowing states to peace-meal responses, which is completely pointless and that's proven more and more true by the day.

Which are the other 32?

 

[Jaguar]

Donald Trump Jr. tested positive.
Andrew Giuliani tested positive.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Republicans are diseased. Maybe holding rallies during an airborne pandemic right now isn't a good idea? Just a thought.

 

[Jaguar]

Republicans are diseased.

No, no. Democrats let loose the virus on them using a super duper air ventilation system. I know the truth. Only me!