The Dangerous Case Of Donald Trump

[Virtual ghost]

Because it's true?

2010 ?
At least post something more up to date regarding GDP PPP.

 

[anticlimatic]

When you see your own behavior in other people, you don't like it. Bless your heart.

Got me there.

 

[anticlimatic]

2010 ?
At least post something more up to date regarding GDP PPP.

Thats PPP. GDP is about the same as 2010.

 

[Maou]

Thats PPP. GDP is about the same as 2010.

You hsve nothing on my countries economy.

 

[Nicodemus]

Oh you mean because it's arrogant and presumptuous? Yeah I'm not a fan of that either, but look who I'm talking to. It's the only language he understands- and as an expert communicator (if you recal our earlier discussion) that's the one I'm obligated to use.

You poor soul really believe I am jobless? How desperate. I am quite sure my job is both more secure and more prosperous than yours. You are right, though, in that I do not run my own business: I work in academic management.

 

[anticlimatic]

You poor soul really believe I am jobless? How desperate. I am quite sure my job is both more secure and more prosperous than yours. You are right, though, in that I do not run my own business: I work in academic management.

That was bait. I'm not actually as presumptuous as all that, but I knew your arrogance would compel you to defend yourself. My actual guess was that you were still in college- one of those academia world addicts that could never quite make the transition into the real world. Turns out I wasn't far off the mark, though you're older than I thought. Thank you for divulging. Everything about you makes complete sense now. I used to have a desk job myself, and I think you and I have a lot more in common than we can admit. It's never too late to challenge yourself, you're more capable and inheritly valuable than you give yourself credit for deep down.

 

[Maou]

And I am working class in a blue collar job. I just paid off my car due to all this money I got on my Tax returns this year. Trump hss done nothing but make my life easier. I honestly feel like I am rich with only a annual incomd of 26k. My BF makes 31k. Life is great. Can't wait to make my self sustaining garden this year too.

 

[ceecee]

And I am working class in a blue collar job. I just paid off my car due to all this money I got on my Tax returns this year. Trump hss done nothing but make my life easier. I honestly feel like I am rich with only a annual incomd of 26k. My BF makes 31k. Life is great. Can't wait to make my self sustaining garden this year too.

Let me guess. Your tax refund was around $4000.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I saw this. How Trump is doing in New Hampshire against other incumbent presidents at the time.

I can't say if this is really true, but this is surely telling something if it is.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I am really curious how this will work out. (I really am)

 

[Maou]

I am really curious how this will work out. (I really am)

Think of it this way. Money doesn't mean it works. American education is a good example. It has a lot if funding, but is absolute shit. Throwing money at it and expecting it to improve is naive, and unfortunately a common solution offered. The same applies for pretty much everything else run by the government. Which is why reform is more important, so they are not throwing away money based on 100 year old policy that isn't even relevent.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Think of it this way. Money doesn't mean it works. American education is a good example. It has a lot if funding, but is absolute shit. Throwing money at it and expecting it to improve is naive, and unfortunately a common solution offered. The same applies for pretty much everything else run by the government. Which is why reform is more important, so they are not throwing away money based on 100 year old policy that isn't even relevent.

Education has a good funding ? In the case you guys have a "free college" I would perhaps buy this claim. Just throwing money on problems is bad idea but if you remove funding the problems are even less likely to be fixed. While Education is literally the last thing you should cut, since cutting here almost surely means that literally all other things will suffer down the road.


Cutting EPA for a third without socialized medicine is also a very questionable long term logic.

 

[ceecee]

Education has a good funding ? In the case you guys have a "free college" I would perhaps buy this claim. Just throwing money on problems is bad idea but if you remove funding the problems are even less likely to be fixed. While Education is literally the last thing you should cut, since cutting here almost surely means that literally all other things will suffer down the road.


Cutting EPA for a third without socialized medicine is also a very questionable long term logic.

Nothing this administration does is logical. There are all kinds of people on the boards of PUBLIC schools looking to funnel fed and state funds from public to private/charter schools as well as others just dying to privatize all education in the US.

How Are Public Funds Diverted to Private Schools? - Southern Education Foundation

How a Businessman Funnels Public Education Funds for Charter Schools Into Private Companies - Truthdig

Billionaires v teachers: the Koch brothers' plan to starve public education | US news | The Guardian

 

[Virtual ghost]

Nothing this administration does is logical. There are all kinds of people on the boards of PUBLIC schools looking to funnel fed and state funds from public to private/charter schools as well as others just dying to privatize all education in the US.

How Are Public Funds Diverted to Private Schools? - Southern Education Foundation

How a Businessman Funnels Public Education Funds for Charter Schools Into Private Companies - Truthdig

Billionaires v teachers: the Koch brothers' plan to starve public education | US news | The Guardian

However I really don't understand the mindset of these people. With what exactly should America remain the dominant power in the world ? Their holy goal is to destroy systems that are creating or at least should create quality. What then locks huge parts of the population from being productive as their piers overseas. My conservative PM was recently bragging how he increased the pay in education for 18% since the start of the term (but he is a commie by American standards). I mean bad education is almost a foundation of all large trade deficits and that will only increase as a factor as the tech. level is going up.

 

[Maou]

Education has a good funding ? In the case you guys have a "free college" I would perhaps buy this claim. Just throwing money on problems is bad idea but if you remove funding the problems are even less likely to be fixed. While Education is literally the last thing you should cut, since cutting here almost surely means that literally all other things will suffer down the road.


Cutting EPA for a third without socialized medicine is also a very questionable long term logic.

Its due to bureaucratic bullshit etc. Usa spends nearly double on administrative fees and costs in both medicine and education vs other countries. It is the reason things are so expensive. They abuse loopholes in student aid snd other subsidies.

 

[Nicodemus]

That was bait. I'm not actually as presumptuous as all that, but I knew your arrogance would compel you to defend yourself. My actual guess was that you were still in college- one of those academia world addicts that could never quite make the transition into the real world. Turns out I wasn't far off the mark, though you're older than I thought. Thank you for divulging. Everything about you makes complete sense now. I used to have a desk job myself, and I think you and I have a lot more in common than we can admit. It's never too late to challenge yourself, you're more capable and inheritly valuable than you give yourself credit for deep down.

Since you are usually wrong in your assessments about me (and are so again here), I can see why you would think we have a lot in common.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Its due to bureaucratic bullshit etc. Usa spends nearly double on administrative fees and costs in both medicine and education vs other countries. It is the reason things are so expensive. They abuse loopholes in student aid snd other subsidies.

In that case that need to be clean up rather than just killing the whole system. Since this is an issue of parasitism, which can show up in private and public sector.


Although this is almost inevitable outcome of underfunded and badly structured education. Because what on earth will you do with "half-expert" than make this person a bureaucrat? Since it just doesn't have the qualifications for "the real deal".

 

[ceecee]

However I really don't understand the mindset of these people. With what exactly should America remain the dominant power in the world ? Their holy goal is to destroy systems that are creating or at least should create quality. What then locks huge parts of the population from being productive as their piers overseas. My conservative PM was recently bragging how he increased the pay in education for 18% since the start of the term (but he is a commie by American standards). I mean bad education is almost a foundation of all large trade deficits and that will only increase as a factor as the tech. level is going up.

Their mindset is profit. This is late stage capitalism - the tatics will only get worse. Idiots will blame bureaucracy and shrug but they've not took 30 seconds to look into it. They do get to complain constantly and spew half truth and bullshit on any subject though, so they have that going for them. All goes back to a lack of education.

BTW there are NO loopholes in student loans or Federal Student Aid. None. One loan type is secured, one is unsecured, you pay back whatever lender holds the loan, refinance if you can. And Trump is looking to make those harder to discharge with public service.

Trump’s bid to end Public Service Loan Forgiveness could mean ‘major life changes’ for some student-loan borrowers - MarketWatch

Can you imagine being 7 or 8 years into this? I don't hear Trumptards screaming about military service getting free educations, this is no different. It's the reason I left the nonprofit sector.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Their mindset is profit. This is late stage capitalism - the tatics will only get worse. Idiots will blame bureaucracy and shrug but they've not took 30 seconds to look into it. They do get to complain constantly and spew half truth and bullshit on any subject though, so they have that going for them. All goes back to a lack of education.

BTW there are NO loopholes in student loans or Federal Student Aid. None. One loan type is secured, one is unsecured, you pay back whatever lender holds the loan, refinance if you can. And Trump is looking to make those harder to discharge with public service.

Trump’s bid to end Public Service Loan Forgiveness could mean ‘major life changes’ for some student-loan borrowers - MarketWatch

Can you imagine being 7 or 8 years into this? I don't hear Trumptards screaming about military service getting free educations, this is no different. It's the reason I left the nonprofit sector.

I suppose I can imagine that. However if he is reelected my money is that USA will eventually implode, although that can easily happen with someone else at the helm. This is because all of your policies and decisions are generally made for short term gains, since the politics is black and white and elections are every 2 years. While Trump simply put this on steroids with his "plot twists" and pissing of the world. It doesn't even matter if something is improving at the moment since the big picture is problematic.


Pretty much all types of debts in the country are going up constantly, while in general the share in Global GDP and military spending are falling through years. This is why I said that I don't really see any real difference between all presidents for at least the least 20 years. Therefore at one point the whole system will simply become unsustainable and all these talks about Trump's dictatorship are in my opinion unfunded. The system will simply crash after enough damage is self infliced and foreign pressures become too strong ... and then it will be chaos across the country with very unclear end.

 

[Maou]

Their mindset is profit. This is late stage capitalism - the tatics will only get worse. Idiots will blame bureaucracy and shrug but they've not took 30 seconds to look into it. They do get to complain constantly and spew half truth and bullshit on any subject though, so they have that going for them. All goes back to a lack of education.

BTW there are NO loopholes in student loans or Federal Student Aid. None. One loan type is secured, one is unsecured, you pay back whatever lender holds the loan, refinance if you can. And Trump is looking to make those harder to discharge with public service.

Trump’s bid to end Public Service Loan Forgiveness could mean ‘major life changes’ for some student-loan borrowers - MarketWatch

Can you imagine being 7 or 8 years into this? I don't hear Trumptards screaming about military service getting free educations, this is no different. It's the reason I left the nonprofit sector.

Its both. I also do not support for profit education. I think interest rates on student loans shouldn't exist. If you can force that, they'd lower the cost of education by a lot to save money. But stopping the administrative bloat is also important. What I meant by loophole, is how tuition keeps going up, but teacher rates remain the same. Is due to how it competes with student loans.

Why Is the Cost of College Tuition Becoming So Pricey?

But if they got rid of interest entirely, it would solve a lot of problems. Which Trump actually mentioned what he wanted to do with education many times.