Inferior Te?

[Xena]

Hi everyone,

I've been studying MBTI for over a year now, even had an EEG by Dario Nardi.... still trying to work out some of the inconsistencies I have because although I think I'm an ISFP, most people type me as INFJ....or occasionally INTJ. Even the EEG showed emphasis on typical ISTP regions, but long term wiring was consistent with INFJ.
Do the following behaviors seem consistent with inferior Te?

At work (I'm a medical lab microbiologist):
-I make sure that the culture racks are stacked on both sides in such a way that it is completely balanced when you pick it up.
-When I do antibiotic sensitivities, I make the piles organized by type of bacteria...then I do that category one at a time, then move on to the next one.
-I categorize my workup of the cultures by type of organism. When I first devised my system I had to use post-it notes to label the piles I made for each category for the first few days. People laughed because I guess most don't make categories like this.
-When working in specimen processing, I prioritize specimens so that the they are running through the machine for plating at all times. And I'm super fast. I want to be the quickest and most accurate worker.
-I make a game out of seeing how fast I can enter the workup into the computer. I continually try to beat my time.
Personal Life:
-I organize the dishes in the dishwasher so that they get optimal washing. Even small spoons are separated from large spoons. And I like to have only 3-4 spoons per silverware compartment.
-That's pretty much the only thing that I do in the house that is really organized.
-I drive very competitively, trying to take turns in the most efficient route. I don't regard lines in the road if they seem arbitrary and get in the way of efficiency.
-In college I was extremely competitive. I tried to have the best grades and be the master of the subject if it was one that interested me.
-I walk fast, and plow through doors because they are obstacles to my goal/destination.
-When I lost 90 lbs, I came up with a plan of a certain mixture of cardio and strength training to maintain muscle mass and succeeded.
-I had a personal goal of benching a max 200 lbs that I attained, and I leg pressed 800 lbs (it wasn't my max) because I wanted to be the strongest woman I knew.
As a kid:
-I used to play a game during lunch where I would compete to see if I could eat my entire tray of food in the time it took for the clock to reach 60 seconds.
-I would eat one thing at a time (still do).
-Playing king of the mat, I just picked the other kids up and physically removed them from the mat instead of playing the normal way, since that seemed the quickest and direct way to winning.
Do I seem like a normal ISFP...or Ogre with OCD?

 

[Mal12345]

I was thinking ESTP, but then I read "Even the EEG showed emphasis on typical ISTP regions," so I'm going with ISTP as your type.

 

[Xena]

Sometimes I do feel very istp, but I'm so incredibly sensitive.... my feelings get hurt easily, and I'm very sensitive to other people/animals, and even sometimes inanimate object's suffering.

Its like I have an inner bad-as*... but I'm also just a marshmallow inside.

I will often be moved to tears when I see people being kind to one another...or when life preserves the sanctity of life.

What traits that don't fall in line with ISFP is that I can't figure out how to dress myself so I look nice. Often I don't care that much if my hair or clothes look good. I'm not artistic. The only art I really love is music... but I have no creative outlets...

 

[Norrsken]

Some questions if you don't mind answering. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1. How do you gain and expend energy: By being a part of the external world (socializing, going out, etc.), or through your own internal world (solitude, living mostly inside your head, etc.)?
2. How do you get your information about the word: Through your five senses, or through intuitive patterns?
3. When making a decision, do you listen to your feelings and inner ethics, or reason and logic?
4. When you are stressed out, how do you behave?

 

[Mal12345]

Sometimes I do feel very istp, but I'm so incredibly sensitive.... my feelings get hurt easily, and I'm very sensitive to other people/animals, and even sometimes inanimate object's suffering.

Its like I have an inner bad-as*... but I'm also just a marshmallow inside.

I will often be moved to tears when I see people being kind to one another...or when life preserves the sanctity of life.

What traits that don't fall in line with ISFP is that I can't figure out how to dress myself so I look nice. Often I don't care that much if my hair or clothes look good. I'm not artistic. The only art I really love is music... but I have no creative outlets...

Some of that sounds like my ISFP wife. She doesn't fall into the ISFP category as an artist. But that's just Keirsey's idea anyway so it's probably false. He thinks SP is an artist or artisan type. She goes crazy when she gets behind the wheel of a car. She does not like exercise. She loves the sound of wind chimes.

 

[Xena]

1. I gain energy from having solitude, time to myself. I find the external world very draining.
2. I am very in touch with my senses. Some of my favorite things are sensual. I learn intuitively though. I can read about something in a book, absorb it, and develop a very high level of understanding. I can usually take information about concepts and figure out a pattern. Then I apply that understanding to new information that I learn. (example: I used to homeschool my kids, and I was brewing Kombucha. One morning the children noticed the yeast blooming in the jar. I took the opportunity to teach about how resources dictate the growth of population by comparing the yeast pattern of exponential growth to what has happened to the explosion of human population growth, and followed it through to it's logical conclusion with the population eventually exhausting all resources and eventually dying out.)
3. When I make a decision, I take people's feelings into account. When I was younger, I was very sympathetic most to those people close to me...otherwise, I would do what makes sense, or what made me happy. (I'm an E 9, so very often making sure I don't do something that could cause conflict).
4. When stressed I drink, smoke, retreat into my inner world, become irritable and I don't care about people's feelings as much.

 

[Mal12345]

1. I gain energy from having solitude, time to myself. I find the external world very draining.
2. I am very in touch with my senses. Some of my favorite things are sensual. I learn intuitively though. I can read about something in a book, absorb it, and develop a very high level of understanding. I can usually take information about concepts and figure out a pattern. Then I apply that understanding to new information that I learn. (example: I used to homeschool my kids, and I was brewing Kombucha. One morning the children noticed the yeast blooming in the jar. I took the opportunity to teach about how resources dictate the growth of population by comparing the yeast pattern of exponential growth to what has happened to the explosion of human population growth, and followed it through to it's logical conclusion with the population eventually exhausting all resources and eventually dying out.)
3. When I make a decision, I take people's feelings into account. When I was younger, I was very sympathetic most to those people close to me...otherwise, I would do what makes sense, or what made me happy. (I'm an E 9, so very often making sure I don't do something that could cause conflict).
4. When stressed I drink, smoke, retreat into my inner world, become irritable and I don't care about people's feelings as much.

Number 4 is inferior Te in some ways.

But your self-descriptions are all over the board, so I PM'd you my test to find out why.

 

[Xena]

I pm'd you my results. Hopefully I answered accurately. 😊

 

[Lia_kat]

Hi, Farrah! Glad you're here and I hope you find the answers you're looking for! - Lia

 

[Xena]

Thanks Lia

 

[Mal12345]

My inventory doesn't look at functions, but ESTJ and ENTJ were low for you. What Inferior-Te means depends on the type, or even on the person. Your lowest scores, however, had Te and Fe functions. This indicates to me that when you are under stress your Je functions are coming out. I predict you have a pattern of getting angry and then withdrawing (e.g., "leave me alone for a while"). If you're concerned with what people think of you (or some other social consequences) then you'll build up a head of steam before you explode.

If you're a type 9, then 9w8 is more likely than 9w1 for you. If type 4 is in your tritype (and I'm thinking it is), then you should consider the 5 wing over the 3 wing based on the pattern of your scores.

All in all, your OP description isn't Te inferior. But that doesn't mean Te isn't your inferior.

 

[Xena]

That's amazing you were able to gleam that much information off of that.

What's weird is I've told my INFP ex that I really don't care for Te or Fe that much....but then again, I've probably been looping a loooooong time.

I get angry, but I get over it quickly and move on generally. Sometimes I'm surprised at the rage I feel, because my normal mode is quite pleasant and amiable. But I take a LOT of abuse before I get to that point. Or if someone was abusing someone else (especially someone defenseless), that'll trigger it too.

I went to a professional Enneagram coach and she typed me as 9w8. I test highest in 9, 6/5 and 4.....

And I definitely relate more to the 5 than 3.


So based off your assessment, would you say that ISFP is likely? Because I really don't feel like a "J" type at all, nor an intuitive dominant type. I'm too impulsive to be Ni dom.

 

[Mal12345]

That's amazing you were able to gleam that much information off of that.

What's weird is I've told my INFP ex that I really don't care for Te or Fe that much....but then again, I've probably been looping a loooooong time.

I get angry, but I get over it quickly and move on generally. Sometimes I'm surprised at the rage I feel, because my normal mode is quite pleasant and amiable. But I take a LOT of abuse before I get to that point. Or if someone was abusing someone else (especially someone defenseless), that'll trigger it too.

I went to a professional Enneagram coach and she typed me as 9w8. I test highest in 9, 6/5 and 4.....

And I definitely relate more to the 5 than 3.


So based off your assessment, would you say that ISFP is likely? Because I really don't feel like a "J" type at all, nor an intuitive dominant type. I'm too impulsive to be Ni dom.

While looking over your results I was thinking 6 for you also because of the predominance of contradictions in your personality. A higher level 6 though will be more steadfast and certain. Sixes enjoy doing the type of ordering you do on the job because it gives their thinking something to occupy them - they don't have to worry as much when focused on such matters. 6w5 will also likely believe in some kind of ideology: a staunch supporter. 6w5 types also make great independent contractors in some type of hard science. 6w7 goes more toward the people sciences.

Your ISFP score isn't very strong, but that doesn't matter. It's up to you.

 

[Xena]

I sometimes test neck and neck with my 9 and 6... 6w5, more so than 6w7. They're usually very close.

And I am pretty skeptical. I tend to ask a lot of "why" questions.....and I look for hidden motives often.

I'm curious how you knew 4 would be in my tritype?

Thanks again for your perspective.

 

[Mal12345]

I sometimes test neck and neck with my 9 and 6... 6w5, more so than 6w7. They're usually very close.

And I am pretty skeptical. I tend to ask a lot of "why" questions.....and I look for hidden motives often.

I'm curious how you knew 4 would be in my tritype?

Thanks again for your perspective.

ESTP looks for hidden motives. For the most part, you are stronger in Ti then Fi. Your orderliness comes from an internal logical structure not viewable by others directly, so I imagine they will laugh at your post-its. It also reveals intellectual self-reliance, a Ti trait. Te self-reliance is completely different. That's someone who makes their own way in the world and overcomes tough obstacles to get ahead. Te-inferior is a primitive manifestation of toughness. Developed Te makes a well thought-out plan and sticks to it. Te-inferior makes an emotionally-based plan and then drops it when the emotion (anger) has passed. A Te-inferior plan would likely involve an emotional impulse toward gaining independence (e.g., getting a divorce, or quitting that damn job and going into business for oneself).

 

[Mal12345]

ESTP Personality (“The Entrepreneur”)


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"people with this personality type pick up on hidden thoughts and motives where most types would be lucky to pick up anything specific at all."

 

[Xena]

I read the description from the link...I'd never read it before since I'd never consider myself an extrovert, or a dare-devil in any way....I'm HSP, so I don't like too much adrenaline or risk.

My brother is an ESTP, as well as my bio-dad... They're always out doing something... and sometimes take some really crazy risks. I'm surprised they're still alive.

My brother knows I'm pretty sensitive, and he'll try to be comforting, like when my dog recently died...and the words were WAY off the mark of comfort, lol. But he tried, and I appreciated it.

I'm the electronic gadget fixer of the family....more so than my INTJ or ESTP brother. But I'm also the one most sensitive to harshness (ISFJ mom, ISFJ step-dad, ESFJ sister).

Sorry, didn't mean to ramble. I guess I just wanted to explain why ESTP wasn't a good fit. Nor would ESFP.

 

[Mal12345]

I read the description from the link...I'd never read it before since I'd never consider myself an extrovert, or a dare-devil in any way....I'm HSP, so I don't like too much adrenaline or risk.

My brother is an ESTP, as well as my bio-dad... They're always out doing something... and sometimes take some really crazy risks. I'm surprised they're still alive.

My brother knows I'm pretty sensitive, and he'll try to be comforting, like when my dog recently died...and the words were WAY off the mark of comfort, lol. But he tried, and I appreciated it.

I'm the electronic gadget fixer of the family....more so than my INTJ or ESTP brother. But I'm also the one most sensitive to harshness (ISFJ mom, ISFJ step-dad, ESFJ sister).

Sorry, didn't mean to ramble. I guess I just wanted to explain why ESTP wasn't a good fit. Nor would ESFP.

ESFP was one of your low scores. Gadget fixer sounds ISTP.

 

[Mal12345]

I read the description from the link...I'd never read it before since I'd never consider myself an extrovert, or a dare-devil in any way....I'm HSP, so I don't like too much adrenaline or risk.

My brother is an ESTP, as well as my bio-dad... They're always out doing something... and sometimes take some really crazy risks. I'm surprised they're still alive.

My brother knows I'm pretty sensitive, and he'll try to be comforting, like when my dog recently died...and the words were WAY off the mark of comfort, lol. But he tried, and I appreciated it.

I'm the electronic gadget fixer of the family....more so than my INTJ or ESTP brother. But I'm also the one most sensitive to harshness (ISFJ mom, ISFJ step-dad, ESFJ sister).

Sorry, didn't mean to ramble. I guess I just wanted to explain why ESTP wasn't a good fit. Nor would ESFP.

Also, I left out the second part of the statement about the ESTP: "ESTPs use these observations immediately, calling out the change and asking questions, often with little regard for sensitivity." If you're an ISTP then you will have observations that you keep under wraps.

 

[Xena]

Right...and my brain areas, specifically the Pz and F4 regions were my highest...both tend to be more related to Ti/Se and Ti/Ne respectively. I've installed brakes on my van before...changed the oil, fixed my computer's jumpers on the MB, installed a new light fixture using existing wiring (scared me to death), I was also pretty awesome at doing the figure-8 in my motorcycle safety course so they had other people watch me as an example.

But I don't make decisions on logic primarily. I use logic, definitely...but people are the deciding factor.

Even today, while leaving for lunch, I saw someone left their lights on in the parking lot. I didn't want them to have to come out to their car after work and the battery be dead. So I called the operator and tried to have them notify the owner. When they told me that they aren't allowed to page overhead, I tried to get into the car myself. Unfortunately it was locked. It bothers me because this is possibly going to ruin someone's night after a long shift, and it could have been prevented.

I stick up for people and protect them. I defend those that are wronged. I've beaten up kids for messing with my brothers. I've told off surgeons when I was 17 because they weren't taking care of my grandfather the way I thought they should have been.

The reason I do my job is because I want to help people in some way, but I'm too sensitive to deal with them face to face. Every lab specimen is a person to me.