Your Ideal body

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

why? what if it's a married couple?

Would you be watching the married couple?

Or would you be a member of the couple?

 

[1487610420]

Would you be watching the married couple?

Or would you be a member of the couple?

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

I mean are you making the porno of you and your wife, or watching it of a married couple????

lol

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

Okay.

If a married couple allows you to watch them having sex, that is adultery. Is it not?

And if you watch them without their permission, it is lustful and a violation. ?

 

[1487610420]

I mean are you making the porno of you and your wife, or watching it of a married couple????

lol

I'm confused to why/how the discussion transitioned into "me" anything...

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

I think when you took it here, I inferred that it was becoming personal for you:

why? what if it's a married couple?

lol

 

[1487610420]

What if it's amateur porn done by non-professionals with regular normal bodies who are married to each other. Better now?

 

[grey_beard]

And porn perpetuates this horribly.

No, that's Photoshop.

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

What if it's amateur porn done by non-professionals with regular normal bodies who are married to each other. Better now?

That is just married couple sex then. Not really porn. lol.

 

[Andy]

I'm actually quite pleased with the body that I have at the moment... though I wouldn't mind growing a few more inches taller so that clothes would fit less awkwardly

funny, can you tell in this pic that I'm technically overweight according to BMI, being 5'2" and 140lbs? If I actually drop to 125 or below I get told by people that I look unwell and need to put weight back on...advice on finding clothing? don't be built like a fully grown woman but the height of a 12 year old... most of the time clothing makes me look either slutty or schlubby

You know by BMI I'm not just technically overweight, I'm obese (30.4 kg/m2). Despite that, I manage to have normally blood pressure and a lung age 10 years less than my biological age.

 

[miss fortune]

You know by BMI I'm not just technically overweight, I'm obese (30.4 kg/m2). Despite that, I manage to have normally blood pressure and a lung age 10 years less than my biological age.

I think that it's just an overly simplistic number because simple makes people happy (and is easy to understand)

as long as a person is healthy, that's what should matter the most in the end... it's just more difficult to get the other numbers than it is to calculate bmi

 

[SearchingforPeace]

I think that it's just an overly simplistic number because simple makes people happy (and is easy to understand)

as long as a person is healthy, that's what should matter the most in the end... it's just more difficult to get the other numbers than it is to calculate bmi

From NPR:

Top 10 reasons the BMI is Bogus


1. The person who dreamed up the BMI said explicitly that it could not and should not be used to indicate the level of fatness in an individual.

The BMI was introduced in the early 19th century by a Belgian named Lambert Adolphe Jacques Quetelet. He was a mathematician, not a physician. He produced the formula to give a quick and easy way to measure the degree of obesity of the general population to assist the government in allocating resources. In other words, it is a 200-year-old hack.

2. It is scientifically nonsensical.

There is no physiological reason to square a person's height (Quetelet had to square the height to get a formula that matched the overall data. If you can't fix the data, rig the formula!). Moreover, it ignores waist size, which is a clear indicator of obesity level.

3. It is physiologically wrong.

It makes no allowance for the relative proportions of bone, muscle and fat in the body. But bone is denser than muscle and twice as dense as fat, so a person with strong bones, good muscle tone and low fat will have a high BMI. Thus, athletes and fit, health-conscious movie stars who work out a lot tend to find themselves classified as overweight or even obese.

4. It gets the logic wrong.

The CDC says on its Web site that "the BMI is a reliable indicator of body fatness for people." This is a fundamental error of logic. For example, if I tell you my birthday present is a bicycle, you can conclude that my present has wheels. That's correct logic. But it does not work the other way round. If I tell you my birthday present has wheels, you cannot conclude I got a bicycle. I could have received a car. Because of how Quetelet came up with it, if a person is fat or obese, he or she will have a high BMI. But as with my birthday present, it doesn't work the other way round. A high BMI does not mean an individual is even overweight, let alone obese. It could mean the person is fit and healthy, with very little fat.

5. It's bad statistics.

Because the majority of people today (and in Quetelet's time) lead fairly sedentary lives and are not particularly active, the formula tacitly assumes low muscle mass and high relative fat content. It applies moderately well when applied to such people because it was formulated by focusing on them. But it gives exactly the wrong answer for a large and significant section of the population, namely the lean, fit and healthy. Quetelet is also the person who came up with the idea of "the average man." That's a useful concept, but if you try to apply it to any one person, you come up with the absurdity of a person with 2.4 children. Averages measure entire populations and often don't apply to individuals.

6. It is lying by scientific authority.

Because the BMI is a single number between 1 and 100 (like a percentage) that comes from a mathematical formula, it carries an air of scientific authority. But it is mathematical snake oil.

7. It suggests there are distinct categories of underweight, ideal, overweight and obese, with sharp boundaries that hinge on a decimal place.

That's total nonsense.

8. It makes the more cynical members of society suspect that the medical insurance industry lobbies for the continued use of the BMI to keep their profits high.

Insurance companies sometimes charge higher premiums for people with a high BMI. Among such people are all those fit individuals with good bone and muscle and little fat, who will live long, healthy lives during which they will have to pay those greater premiums.

9. Continued reliance on the BMI means doctors don't feel the need to use one of the more scientifically sound methods that are available to measure obesity levels.

Those alternatives cost a little bit more, but they give far more reliable results.

10. It embarrasses the U.S.

It is embarrassing for one of the most scientifically, technologically and medicinally advanced nations in the world to base advice on how to prevent one of the leading causes of poor health and premature death (obesity) on a 200-year-old numerical hack developed by a mathematician who was not even an expert in what little was known about the human body back then.

 

[AphroditeGoneAwry]

I refused to use BMI as it seemed counter-intuitive. I am glad to see I am justified in that.

 

[miss fortune]

posts from here to here moved to off topic posts for being off topic... you can either click on the links or just take my word for it!

 

[great_bay]

My ideal body is to have 70 pounds of muscle.

 

[Kullervo]

About 10% body fat (the one on the right), back from 80 to 85kg due to muscle bulk. I am at 16% now.

 

[Dyslexxie]

BMI is total crap. I don't even bother with it.
My ideal body would be a few inches taller but since I can't really do that without busting my knee caps, I could deal with this body. I'm just waiting for hips to still happen, but at 25 idk if there's hope for me, so whatever, I'm gonna just say I got a Kate Moss body forever.

 

[violet_crown]

I really like my body.

 

[Kullervo]

BMI is total crap. I don't even bother with it.
My ideal body would be a few inches taller but since I can't really do that without busting my knee caps, I could deal with this body. I'm just waiting for hips to still happen, but at 25 idk if there's hope for me.

Yes, I agree. My BMI is 24.2 - almost overweight - yet my BF %, 16.4, is on the line between "ideal" and "average" for men my age. How does that make sense? Also the recommended BMI values vary by ethnicity, and most online calculators don't take this into account either.

I think almost everyone would like to be a few inches taller than they are. I am 6'1" but it seems like a boring height; I would like to be 6'3".

 

[Dyslexxie]

Yes, I agree. My BMI is 24.2 - almost overweight - yet my BF %, 16.4, is on the line between "ideal" and "average" for men my age. How does that make sense? Also the recommended BMI values vary by ethnicity, and most online calculators don't take this into account either.

I think almost everyone would like to be a few inches taller than they are. I am 6'1" but it seems like a boring height; I would like to be 6'3".

I would go with BF% over BMI any day, although that's not always accurate either. I have the body fat of an athlete apparently but the truth is that I'm just scrawny lol.
Do they? I didn't know that but I guess it makes sense. Must be why all my mom's Viet friends think I'm part Asian ahaha.

I thought man average was 5"7 so you're pretty up there!