Vendrah's Enneagram test

[Vendrah]

I had created an enneagram test... too! hahahahah

I am open to feedback on the first days, I dont plan changing the test much but I am open to it, I hope I got everything all right. Link:
https://www.quotev.com/quiz/12892442/Enneagram-Personality-Test

An enneagram test by Vendrah.
I had tried to avoid some cliches, but some of them were impossible to avoid.
I had also used Big Five to do something different than usual in enneagram test (about 10 questions are based on Big Five and uses Big Five and Enneagram connections).
Have fun!

 

[Luminous]

I get:

Type 5


This analysis result is that your Enneagram type is type 5!

Why would I write a description if there are 80349589 descriptions on the internet? Here it is the source which I took the words from the last 2 questions:

Type Five — The Enneagram Institute


This type is estimated to be 14% of World Population (using the MBTI World Population Estimate combined with Enneagram and MBTI relations) and it is the most common enneagram type (tied with type 6 on that aspect).


Connections with MBTI: About 27% of Type 5s are ISTJs (estimated, using global population and not internet or US population). Type 5 is the most common enneagram type for MBTI types ISTJ, INTJ, INTP and ISTP. Connections between Enneagram-MBTI-Big 5 (I do use Big Five in a few questions to be more indirect):

typologytriad.wordpress.com/mbti-enneagram-big-5-correlations/



PS: Consider the second result too, no test is perfect.

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Your answers
Type 5 58
Type 4 57
Type 2 54
Type 9 52
Type 1 45
Type 6 p39
Type 3 32
Type 6 cp 32
Type 8 23
Type 7 10

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I have read that type 5 as a core is one of the rarest types, along with 4, so I have strong doubts about what you say about it being common. Honestly, the 4 score being high for me on tests is so common... but it's just flat out wrong.

5 is in my tritype, either second or third, not 100% sure, so it's not a wrong result, but it's not exactly accurate, either. 952 or 925.

 

[Morpeko]

My Results:

Your Enneagram type is type 4!

Why would I write a description if there are 80349589 descriptions on the internet? Here it is the source which I took the words from the last 2 questions:

Type Four — The Enneagram Institute


This type is estimated to be 9% of World Population (using the MBTI World Population Estimate combined with Enneagram and MBTI relations) and it is estimated to be the most rare enneagram type, tied with Type 3.


Connections with MBTI: About 27% of Type 2s are INFPs (estimated, using global population and not internet or US population). Type 4 is the most common enneagram type for MBTI types INFP, INFJ and ISFP. Connections between Enneagram-MBTI-Big 5 (I do use Big Five in a few questions to be more indirect):

typologytriad.wordpress.com/mbti-enneagram-big-5-correlations/



PS: Consider the second result too, no test is perfect.

Your answers
Type Four: 58
Type Five: 52
Type Six p: 48
Type Three: 42
Type One: 35
Type Eight: 33
Type Six cp: 32
Type Nine: 27
Type Two: 22
Type Seven: 21

My Feedback:

Thanks for making an enneagram quiz and posting it here. I can never get enough of them.

This is alright, definitely not the worst I've seen. The better enneagram quizzes I've taken are based on triads, which yours doesn't seem to have much of. However, I think yours is more detailed than most of the regular enneagram tests.

I do like that you include phobic and counterphobic 6 since they manifest differently and 6 is usually stereotyped the fuck out of as just phobic in tests. The Big 5 connection is also kind of interesting.

Also, there are quite a few typos throughout (i.e. "I fear to be seem as...") but that probably doesn't bug a lot of people. I've definitely seen worse.

Anyway, I nearly always test as types 4 and 5 first. So your test is no different. I am 6w5 with a very strong 4 fix, so it's not too off.

I think enneagram tests have a problem of overscoring introverts as 4s and 5s even when they're not. That's probably why Enneagram Institute thinks they're 14% of the world's population (which they probably are not). This might be part of the reason why a ton of introverted people mistype as these two types, since these tests are based on the stereotypical descriptions.

 

[Luminous]

I agree that it's a good and novel approach to have 6p and 6cp scores.

 

[red_evening_apple]

Type 4 62
Type 9 59
Type 6 cp 42
Type 5 39
Type 2 34
Type 7 34
Type 6 p 32
Type 3 24
Type 1 21
Type 8 10


I am a 947 but my 4 is quite strong, so it's ok for it to be my first result, and the 9 is just a few points below that, which makes sense. I also like the distinction between the 6 cp and the 6 p; I definitely relate more to the 6 cp even if it's not in my tritype, and in fact it's in my top results

 

[Maou]

I got type 4 and type 7. I ended up taking it twice because I wanted the extended results.

 

[Vendrah]

Geeeee, it looks like Im going to have to do more modifications than expected then. Time to analyze what is gone wrong. I had a relatively different type 6 and type 9 scorings, I was afraid they were underscoring and it seems the case (Im going to boost them up). The math isnt that simple for these types on this test, specially with type 6 due to the division.

Type Five questions might be too attractive lol.
[MENTION=35566]Luminous[/MENTION] What do you think its the problem with the test to boost your type 4 score? I had tried to take Neuroticism factors out of type 4 this time to avoid the 'mistyped 4s' thing.
[MENTION=40834]MovinOut[/MENTION] What do you think that I had stereotyped too much, which questions? I didnt used all questions possible because it was going to be too long, I do have some questions to exchange and I am considering doing some changes in a few hours.
To implement triad stuff it I would need a better quiz engine, which are paid. The best thing I could do was to have a format like Luminous where you needed to pick from every triad.

Also, these % information are mine and not from the Enneagram Institute.
Type 5 went common because ISTJ and ISTP are the 1st and 3rd most common type in the world, and they have type 5 as the most common enneagram on both typologycentral enneagram and mbti and another source as well. THe reasoning is, ISTJ and ISTP are very common, type 5 is very common among ISTJ and ISTP, thus, type 5 is very common. But I also made some few corrections and we could have a strong bias for 5 over 6 for the forums, maybe more strong than I actually had compensated for the projection.
[MENTION=40844]red_evening_apple[/MENTION] I am going to boost type 9 and 6 scoring a bit, because I probably underestimated their scorings, so it would be as if you got core 9.

 

[Saturnal Snowqueen]

Nice test, even though I don't think I'm a 5 fixer(though I consider myself very observant). 9 and 4 are still up there and close, per usual. CP 6 in there was a neat idea, though I'm very much a phobic 6.

This analysis result is that your Enneagram type is type 5!

Why would I write a description if there are 80349589 descriptions on the internet? Here it is the source which I took the words from the last 2 questions:

Type Five — The Enneagram Institute


This type is estimated to be 14% of World Population (using the MBTI World Population Estimate combined with Enneagram and MBTI relations) and it is the most common enneagram type (tied with type 6 on that aspect).


Connections with MBTI: About 27% of Type 5s are ISTJs (estimated, using global population and not internet or US population). Type 5 is the most common enneagram type for MBTI types ISTJ, INTJ, INTP and ISTP. Connections between Enneagram-MBTI-Big 5 (I do use Big Five in a few questions to be more indirect)

 

[noname3788]

no worries [MENTION=32874]Vendrah[/MENTION], it didn't lure me into type five like most enneagram tests:

Your Enneagram type is type 7, weeee

Why would I write a description if there are [insert random number] descriptions on the internet? Here it is the source which I took the words from the last 2 questions: The Enneagram Institute

This type is estimated to be 11% of Wold Population (using the MBTI World Population Estimate combined with Enneagram and MBTI relations)

Connections with MBTI: About 26% of Type 7s are ENFP's (estimated, blababla) Type 7 is the most common enneagram type for MBTI types ENFP, ESFP, ESTP and ENTP.

Type 7: 53
Type 9: 46
Type 4: 39
Type 6cp: 37
Type 2: 32
Type 6p: 31
Type 8: 27
Type 5: 27
Type 1: 18
Type 3: 16

 

[Morpeko]

Geeeee, it looks like Im going to have to do more modifications than expected then. Time to analyze what is gone wrong. I had a relatively different type 6 and type 9 scorings, I was afraid they were underscoring and it seems the case (Im going to boost them up). The math isnt that simple for these types on this test, specially with type 6 due to the division.

Type Five questions might be too attractive lol.

[MENTION=35566]Luminous[/MENTION] What do you think its the problem with the test to boost your type 4 score? I had tried to take Neuroticism factors out of type 4 this time to avoid the 'mistyped 4s' thing.

[MENTION=40834]MovinOut[/MENTION] What do you think that I had stereotyped too much, which questions? I didnt used all questions possible because it was going to be too long, I do have some questions to exchange and I am considering doing some changes in a few hours.
To implement triad stuff it I would need a better quiz engine, which are paid. The best thing I could do was to have a format like Luminous where you needed to pick from every triad.

Also, these % information are mine and not from the Enneagram Institute.
Type 5 went common because ISTJ and ISTP are the 1st and 3rd most common type in the world, and they have type 5 as the most common enneagram on both typologycentral enneagram and mbti and another source as well. THe reasoning is, ISTJ and ISTP are very common, type 5 is very common among ISTJ and ISTP, thus, type 5 is very common. But I also made some few corrections and we could have a strong bias for 5 over 6 for the forums, maybe more strong than I actually had compensated for the projection.

[MENTION=40844]red_evening_apple[/MENTION] I am going to boost type 9 and 6 scoring a bit, because I probably underestimated their scorings, so it would be as if you got core 9.

I think you did well considering how bad Quotev is. I'm actually on break at work so I'm posting on my phone. I'll tell you which questions I perceive are stereotyped when I come home.

 

[Vendrah]

I did the first step and now I had fixed the issue with 9 and 6 underscoring.
The rest Im going to look for soon, but I reduced type 5 and type 4 points slightly on the ending questions temporarily (I will redo that and try to find out what has been way too much attractive to these types, specially type 5).

 

[Vendrah]

I appreciate feedbacks and had done a few changes and did a few replacements, hope everything got right now. So, if people want to try it again, its on the "second" version now, its not that different but I had try to tackle the apparent issues.

 

[Luminous]

Do you want help with wording and spelling?

I sacrifice myself for my own goals.

This question is a bit confusing.

I appreciate the art present in music and culture, specially as a form and mean of expression.

Should be especially

Some people see myself as eccentric.

Some people see me as eccentric.

I eager to take charge in organizing projects and people and being good at it is one of my qualities.

I am eager to take charge in organizing projects and people and being good at it is one of my qualities.

I am attracted to activities that has potential for social prestige.

I am attracted to activities that have potential for social prestige.

Finding my own priorities have been hard to me.

Finding my own priorities has been hard for me.

I like to do things in a fast pace.

I like to do things at a fast pace.

I satisfy my needs on teaching and/or helping people.

I satisfy my needs by teaching and/or helping people.

I fear to be incapable or unhelpful at solving problems.

I fear being incapable or unhelpful at solving problems.

I do usually take a lot of caution.

I am usually cautious.

I discover new facts and/or general conceptions by disparate empirical material.

...could be worded more clearly...

I pride myself for my own uniqueness.

I pride myself on my own uniqueness.

I fear to be defective.

I fear being defective.

Pick up the words you relate the most!

Pick the words you relate to the most!

Last 'question'! Mark which of these qualities you relate the most:

Last 'question'! Mark which of these qualities you relate to the most:

I got 4 this time around...
Your answers
Type 4 61
Type 9 57
Type 2 53
Type 1 47
Type 5 45
Type 6 p 40
Type 6 cp 35
Type 3 24
Type 8 20
Type 7 20

 

[Morpeko]

Okay, I retook it.

My Results

Type 5

This analysis result is that your Enneagram type is type 5!

Why would I write a description if there are 80349589 descriptions on the internet? Here it is the source which I took the words from the last 2 questions:

www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-5


This type is estimated to be 14% of World Population (using the MBTI World Population Estimate combined with Enneagram and MBTI relations) and it is the most common enneagram type (tied with type 6 on that aspect).


Connections with MBTI: About 27% of Type 5s are ISTJs (estimated, using global population and not internet or US population). Type 5 is the most common enneagram type for MBTI types ISTJ, INTJ, INTP and ISTP. Connections between Enneagram-MBTI-Big 5 (I do use Big Five in a few questions to be more indirect):

typologytriad.wordpress.com/mbti-enneagram-big-5-correlations/


PS: Consider the second result too, no test is perfect.

So, I guess Luminous and I switched.

My other scores are here:

Type Five: 61
Type Four: 60
Type One: 49
Type Six p: 45
Type Three: 45
Type Six cp: 34
Type Eight: 33
Type Nine: 29
Type Seven: 25
Type Two: 24

Five and four are still nearly neck and neck, as per usual.

My Feedback

Not that many questions seemed stereotyped to me this way around. Here are the ones that I thought were:

39. I value reputation, money and status.

40. I satisfy my needs on teaching and/or helping people.

52. I pride myself for my own uniqueness.

I also think that the questions about fears could be better worded (I remember seeing "I fear being seen as worthless" and "I fear being seen as incapable" and "I fear being seen as defective"). I think that focus on the core fears are important but when they're worded this way I think too many people relate to them.

Other little things that are weird to me:

18. I would appreciate being seen by others as “visionary”.

I'm not sure who wouldn't appreciate being seen this way, honestly.

24. Sometimes I worry about the future.

25. Sometimes difficult circumstances are just overwhelming.

I'd take the "sometimes" out. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a person who NEVER worries about the future or NEVER finds difficult circumstances overwhelming.

 

[Vendrah]

Do you want help with wording and spelling?

This question is a bit confusing.


Should be especially


Some people see me as eccentric.


I am eager to take charge in organizing projects and people and being good at it is one of my qualities.


I am attracted to activities that have potential for social prestige.


Finding my own priorities has been hard for me.


I like to do things at a fast pace.


I satisfy my needs by teaching and/or helping people.


I fear being incapable or unhelpful at solving problems.


I am usually cautious.


...could be worded more clearly...


I pride myself on my own uniqueness.


I fear being defective.


Pick the words you relate to the most!


Last 'question'! Mark which of these qualities you relate to the most:

I got 4 this time around...
Your answers
Type 4 61
Type 9 57
Type 2 53
Type 1 47
Type 5 45
Type 6 p 40
Type 6 cp 35
Type 3 24
Type 8 20
Type 7 20

Thanks, I had done the spell corrections.
About type 4, well, you said that you do usually get that on tests, right?
Well, I still find difficult into 'differentiating' from these tests on type four.
I had read a few stereotypes about four modifications and it may happens through community that everything seems to be stereotypes. Like, when I remove what is a 4 stereotype, almost nothing is left. So, if you might give me explanations it would be good for learning and seeing different points of view... Because if I consider "type 4 is unrelated to art", "every type wants to be unique", "Every type is emotional and some as 4, so this isnt a 4 trait" and some other few I forgot, you basically have almost nothing and a void left into what is a type four.

Here are my questions for type 4 (without the spell corrections):

[half] I appreciate the art present in music and culture, specially as a form and mean of expression.
[half] I seek for meaning.
I worry a lot about my identity and self-significance -> UPDATED TO -> I have a tendency to be obsessed with my emotional states.
I remember disappointments from the past quite often.
I take things too personally.
I pride myself on my own uniqueness.

Also, type 4 on Big 5 is Low Extraversion, High Openness to Experience, ? (I put as medium) Agreeableness, low Conscientiousness, High Neuroticism (Neuroticism is ignored and I filtered it out). The wording for type 4, coming directly from enneagram institute, are:

1) Expressive, Dramatic and Temperamental.
2) Introspective, Self-absorbed and Sensitive.

I must admit that very few of them were a lot inspired in other sources, rather than something more or less new (I pride my self for my own uniqueness is common for Fi on cognitive functions test; Actually, its not accurate for Fi but it is accurate for what I understand as Type 4).

 

[Vendrah]

Okay, I retook it.

My Results

Type 5

This analysis result is that your Enneagram type is type 5!

Why would I write a description if there are 80349589 descriptions on the internet? Here it is the source which I took the words from the last 2 questions:

www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-5


This type is estimated to be 14% of World Population (using the MBTI World Population Estimate combined with Enneagram and MBTI relations) and it is the most common enneagram type (tied with type 6 on that aspect).


Connections with MBTI: About 27% of Type 5s are ISTJs (estimated, using global population and not internet or US population). Type 5 is the most common enneagram type for MBTI types ISTJ, INTJ, INTP and ISTP. Connections between Enneagram-MBTI-Big 5 (I do use Big Five in a few questions to be more indirect):

typologytriad.wordpress.com/mbti-enneagram-big-5-correlations/


PS: Consider the second result too, no test is perfect.

So, I guess Luminous and I switched.

My other scores are here:

Type Five: 61
Type Four: 60
Type One: 49
Type Six p: 45
Type Three: 45
Type Six cp: 34
Type Eight: 33
Type Nine: 29
Type Seven: 25
Type Two: 24

Five and four are still nearly neck and neck, as per usual.

My Feedback

Not that many questions seemed stereotyped to me this way around. Here are the ones that I thought were:

39. I value reputation, money and status.

40. I satisfy my needs on teaching and/or helping people.

52. I pride myself for my own uniqueness.

I also think that the questions about fears could be better worded (I remember seeing "I fear being seen as worthless" and "I fear being seen as incapable" and "I fear being seen as defective"). I think that focus on the core fears are important but when they're worded this way I think too many people relate to them.

Other little things that are weird to me:

18. I would appreciate being seen by others as “visionary”.

I'm not sure who wouldn't appreciate being seen this way, honestly.

24. Sometimes I worry about the future.

25. Sometimes difficult circumstances are just overwhelming.

I'd take the "sometimes" out. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a person who NEVER worries about the future or NEVER finds difficult circumstances overwhelming.

I made some changes and replacements based on your feedback, not everything.
I know that the pride for uniqueness is quite stereotyped but as I said on the post above, Im in trouble into finding proper stuff for type 4 for now, it feels like everything for a 4 is a stereotype, like type 4 is just a stereotype type that in reality doesnt exist hahahahahahha.

You say you are a 6-4-9 on signature for now and 6w5, so I guess the real problem here is you not getting type 6... But I dont know what I can do about that and there are plenty of people getting type 6 as a result and a person saying that is a type 6 and got a type 6 result.

 

[Morpeko]

I made some changes and replacements based on your feedback, not everything.
I know that the pride for uniqueness is quite stereotyped but as I said on the post above, Im in trouble into finding proper stuff for type 4 for now, it feels like everything for a 4 is a stereotype, like type 4 is just a stereotype type that in reality doesnt exist hahahahahahha.

Yeah that's understandable. I'm not really sure how to change the type 4 stereotypes either in quizzes, haha. I think that you really improved the questions for type 3 though!

You say you are a 6-4-9 on signature for now and 6w5, so I guess the real problem here is you not getting type 6... But I dont know what I can do about that and there are plenty of people getting type 6 as a result and a person saying that is a type 6 and got a type 6 result.

True... I was thinking maybe for me it's hard to get 6 on your quiz because I am very balanced on phobic and counterphobic, while your quiz tests both separately.
I think it is fine, and as a 6w5 who is introverted I'm always going to have connections to 5 no matter what.

I think your quiz is in a really good stage right now, honestly.

 

[Vendrah]

Yeah that's understandable. I'm not really sure how to change the type 4 stereotypes either in quizzes, haha. I think that you really improved the questions for type 3 though!



True... I was thinking maybe for me it's hard to get 6 on your quiz because I am very balanced on phobic and counterphobic, while your quiz tests both separately.
I think it is fine, and as a 6w5 who is introverted I'm always going to have connections to 5 no matter what.

I think your quiz is in a really good stage right now, honestly.

Thanks!
Its a little late now, but perhaps creating a Type 6 Phobic, Type 6 Counter-phobic and a Type 6 non-Phobic (Phobic + Anti-Phobic = Non-Phobic?) would be a good idea for the future.

 

[noname3788]

Retaking it after some modifications [MENTION=32874]Vendrah[/MENTION] made



Type 6 cp



Your Enneagram type is type 6 (counter-phobic)!

Why would I write a description if there are 80349589 descriptions on the internet? Here it is the source which I took the words from the last 2 questions:

Type Six — The Enneagram Institute

This type is estimated to be 14% of World Population (using the MBTI World Population Estimate combined with Enneagram and MBTI relations) and it is the most common enneagram type (tied with type 5 on that aspect).

NOTE ABOUT COUNTER-PHOBIC 6: Counter-phobic sixes faces their fear and trouble as quickly as they can and preferably before it happens, and that makes being more courageous, kind of adventurous, defiant and rebellious. There is more on the internet if you write "enneagram type 6 phobic vs counterphobic".


Connections with MBTI: About 39% of Type 6s are ISTJs (estimated, using global population and not internet or US population). Type 6 is the most common enneagram type for MBTI types ISTJ and ISFJ. Connections between Enneagram-MBTI-Big 5 (I do use Big Five in a few questions to be more indirect):

typologytriad.wordpress.com/mbti-enneagram-big-5-correlations/



PS: Consider the second result too, no test is perfect.

Type 6 cp
52
Type 9
48
Type 1
43
Type 6 p
41
Type 2
36
Type 7
33
Type 5
29
Type 8
28
Type 4
24
Type 3
24

 

[RadicalDoubt]

I got 5 (as per usual on tests). Seems like a reasonable test, if I come up with any feedback (other than that 5 is probably not the most common type; I'd suspect the attachment types are probably more common than most of the other enneagram types), I'll let you know

Your answers
Type 5
68
Type 9
49
Type 1
48
Type 6 p
45
Type 4
38
Type 3
36
Type 6 cp
34
Type 8
32
Type 7
30
Type 2
20