[Jungian Cognitive Functions] Se Types - What Are You Running From?

[EJCC]

I wasn't sure what you meant by that post.

Escapism is a kind of running. But my term is broader than type 7 escapism because that refers only to an insatiable greed for more and more stuff. I'm talking about running via activities, and that could be anything from chronic workaholism to flying off to Paris for a luncheon with the girls.

I think such a person, when self-aware, would call it running from the self. There's something about the self that needs to be repressed through constant activity - a fear of standing still so the world can't catch up with them. But it's the internal world that compels the activity. Typically, I'd say depression.

For what it's worth, this sounds very e3 to me.

I also relate to it a lot. Specifically the idea of running from the self by keeping busy 24/7.

 

[Mal12345]

For what it's worth, this sounds very e3 to me.

I also relate to it a lot. Specifically the idea of running from the self by keeping busy 24/7.

The ESTJ (or ENTJ) is a Steamroller. It rumbles along with relative quietness until it runs into an obstacle, which it then smashes over with a great deal of noise. Then it goes back to rumbling along again. Unstoppable.

 

[Bush]

Would love to see one of these threads about your own type, [MENTION=13589]Mal12345[/MENTION].

"Ti Types - Why are you so infallible and awesome that you make everybody else feel bad!?"

 

[Poki]

boredom, welcome to that which is E

 

[INerdTP]

Fe types are hiding. But Se types are running, constantly in motion, filling their guts (foodies), or they're drunk; or maybe they are just workaholics who work from sunup to sundown. Get up, feed the kids, go to work, work eight hours, go to the store, put gas in the car, go home, put away the groceries, go for a jog, cook dinner, do the dishes, and then finally relax with a mighty crash on the couch. What is it all for? The obvious reason is to obtain the immediate goal of making money (job) to pay for the groceries and the rent or mortgage and gas for the car so the activity can start all over again tomorrow. But what would happen, psychologically, if it all came to a sudden stop? Those things the Se type is running from: first, worry; second, depression; third, non-existence. The Se type is pursuing life (or at least their idea of it) in order to avoid confronting death.

This is not Se, but enneagram 7. ESTP 8s, ESFP 2s and 3s, ISTP 5s and ISFP 4s are not doing this.

 

[Mal12345]

"Ti Types - Why are you so infallible and awesome that you make everybody else feel bad!?"

Make? How make? By taking things personally. That's not me doing that.

 

[Mal12345]

This is not Se, but enneagram 7. ESTP 8s, ESFP 2s and 3s, ISTP 5s and ISFP 4s are not doing this.

I've already looked into e-7 descriptions and found that what I said is not specific to 7s.

 

[Norrsken]

What are you running from?

deez nuts

 

[Thalassa]

Isn't that actually Enneagram 7?

 

[Thalassa]

"Ti Types - Why are you so infallible and awesome that you make everybody else feel bad!?"

I'm not sure if that's Ti or Ti/Si, specifically, because the more static perception causes them to stop questioning the basis of their internal logic, if they aren't adequately using Ne.

 

[Mal12345]

Isn't that actually Enneagram 7?

It can be 8, 3, or 7.

 

[Thalassa]

It can be 8, 3, or 7.

Well its not Se.

 

[Poki]

or maybe its a lazy ass trying to make us look bad...lol. i have got that ALOT. not to mention..."you should thank me, i did this for you and now you dont have to"

sounds more like an E5 created this then being pinned as another E type.

my whys:
i hate dealing with people so i do it myself
you learn hands on and where theory falls short
you improve hand eye, foot eye, etc coordination
you get better
you get more done
you grow as a person

 

[ThaumaturgicTheorist]

But what would happen, psychologically, if it all came to a sudden stop? Those things the Se type is running from: first, worry; second, depression; third, non-existence. The Se type is pursuing life (or at least their idea of it) in order to avoid confronting death.

You've nailed it, so what's the solution? How is a person supposed to live?

 

[Mal12345]

You've nailed it, so what's the solution? How is a person supposed to live?

If I've nailed it as you say, then the solution is to find out what internal 'hole' is being filled through continual activity. This activity is simply, in concept, the internalization of a vast emptiness. The Se-dom must keep racing along to stay one step ahead of it, but nothing ever satisfies. Various religions do well for this sort of person as long as there is no sociopathy involved in their personality makeup.

 

[Tater]

If I've nailed it as you say, then the solution is to find out what internal 'hole' is being filled through continual activity. This activity is simply, in concept, the internalization of a vast emptiness. The Se-dom must keep racing along to stay one step ahead of it, but nothing ever satisfies. Various religions do well for this sort of person as long as there is no sociopathy involved in their personality makeup.

i don't think what you described is necessarily se.

i think what you described is a mixture of hedonism and workaholism.

the flaws in se relate more to our tendency not to perceive the implications of what's in front of us. for example, i need to ingest everything before the bigger picture can be organized. at that point, raw data can be processed a number of different ways, and i realize that perception plays just as much of a role in data processing as does the object itself. but even then, the sequence doesn't feel resolved because i'm in between believing and disbelief. at this point, a weaker ni is effecting how the information is processed.

what you're referring to sounds more like existentialism. in terms of existential issues, se can serve to solve problems of over-analysis. it can allow people to live in the present moment. though it's still not the full picture.

 

[Mal12345]

i don't think what you described is necessarily se.

i think what you described is a mixture of hedonism and workaholism.

the flaws in se relate more to our tendency not to perceive the implications of what's in front of us. for example, i need to ingest everything before the bigger picture can be organized. at that point, raw data can be processed a number of different ways, and i realize that perception plays just as much of a role in data processing as does the object itself. but even then, the sequence doesn't feel resolved because i'm in between believing and disbelief. at this point, a weaker ni is effecting how the information is processed.

what you're referring to sounds more like existentialism. in terms of existential issues, se can serve to solve problems of over-analysis. it can allow people to live in the present moment. though it's still not the full picture.

But you've been jumping down my throat anyway.

 

[miss fortune]

left out of these running options presented?

running for the pure fucking joy of running... which is the most important and glorious reason to run

 

[á´…eparted]

left out of these running options presented?

running for the pure fucking joy of running... which is the most important and glorious reason to run

 

[miss fortune]

speaking metaphorically as opposed to shoe to pavement type there... though both types are a joy