Random Politics Thread

[Totenkindly]

No surprises here.

Former GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley said Wednesday she will vote for former President Donald Trump in November -- despite her disappointments with him.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Haley says she will vote for Trump, calls Biden ‘a catastrophe’

One more on the topic.
However this is clearly a boost, there is no doubt about it.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Will RFK Jr. qualify for the June presidential debate?

 

[The Cat]

 

[SensEye]

Haley says she will vote for Trump, calls Biden ‘a catastrophe’

One more on the topic.
However this is clearly a boost, there is no doubt about it.

Haley is just playing for 2028. I suspect she will run again for the Republican ticket, so it would be very dangerous politically for her not to support the Republican candidate this time around. Even if it is the dastardly Trump.

And she is right, Biden is a catastrophe. Less of a threat to democracy than Trump, but arguably every bit as inept as a leader, possibly even more inept. I can't imagine many Haley supporters would vote for Biden, but maybe some of them would sit this election out (or maybe vote RFK Jr. as a protest vote). This may influence some of those potential 'abstainers' to stick with the Republicans (Trump), but I can't see it moving the needle much. Of course, in a tight election, every little bit helps.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Haley is just playing for 2028. I suspect she will run again for the Republican ticket, so it would be very dangerous politically for her not to support the Republican candidate this time around. Even if it is the dastardly Trump.

And she is right, Biden is a catastrophe. Less of a threat to democracy than Trump, but arguably every bit as inept as a leader, possibly even more inept. I can't imagine many Haley supporters would vote for Biden, but maybe some of them would sit this election out (or maybe vote RFK Jr. as a protest vote). This may influence some of those potential 'abstainers' to stick with the Republicans (Trump), but I can't see it moving the needle much. Of course, in a tight election, every little bit helps.

She is indeed probably playing for 2028 and beyond.

However since swing states in 2020 were won by a point of less her move is quite likely to make a difference. Since I doubt that this is the move that weights less than 2 to 3 points when it comes to shifting of the entire map towards right. In other words plenty of senate seats are quite competitive and keeping some important ones was a long shot for Democrats even as it was (like Ohio and Montana). Therefore with this is kinda safe bet that the senate is going red. Dems have to win something like 7 competitive seats and in them are Ohio and Montana, which are evidently red states at this point. While the best odds for Democrat pick up are Florida and Texas (that are evidently long shots). Therefore with what she has done she has evidently tilted plenty of things in down-ballot department. And we all know that presidency means little if you don't control various other things in the system.


Just saying

 

[Totenkindly]

Omfg!

 

[Stigmata]

 

[ceecee]

The funniest part of today is that Trump needs to see a probation officer like tomorrow.

 

[The Cat]

 

[ygolo]

The actual convictions:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/read-verdict-sheet-trump-hush-money-conviction/index.html

Every falsified payment is a felony, I believe.

Edit: Calling falsifying payments, a "paperwork violation" seems disingenuous and minimizing.

 

[ygolo]

This is what I was afraid of:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-call-riots-violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

This is what I was afraid of:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-call-riots-violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/

You can't not hold people accountable just because it will infuriate people. Unfortunately this conflict is inevitable.

 

[SensEye]

I find the whole the way the media has represented this whole case a bit mystifying.

I understand, legally, it's about falsifying business records. Specifically, it's about writing checks to Michael Cohen to pay off certain parties and then claiming them as legal expenses. I believe the motivation to do so is so these alleged legal expenses would be tax deductible and I think there is also an angle that campaign donations can be legitimately used for legal expenses but not payoffs for non-disclosure.

I think if this was framed more as tax fraud/misuse of campaign funds in the public eye it would be more damaging to Trumps reputation. Maybe people like Maou would be a little less convinced Trump has the best interests of the country at heart in this context.

Another thing that has me a little puzzled, is that in the felony list there are 11 checks written for a total of $420K. I'm aware Stormy got $130K, McDougall got $150K, and a doorman got $30K. That's $310K leaving another $110K for who knows what. I have an inquiring mind and I'd like to know.

 

[ygolo]

You can't not hold people accountable just because it will infuriate people. Unfortunately this conflict is inevitable.

I know.

This is why he absolutely cannot win.

 

[Virtual ghost]

World’s cartoonists on this week’s events

 

[The Cat]

The Sun Rises.
The Wind Blows from one direction to another.
The Sun Sets.
Somewhere in the distance a dog barks.
Just another day.​

 

[Virtual ghost]

2024 House Election


New consensus map for the house.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

To that we can add this.

Senate Democrats are polling well. That could help Biden.