Random Politics Thread

[ceecee]

I always forget that too; sometimes I think he does too.

It is the most noble thing about this country. By far.

 

[The Cat]

 

[ceecee]

I don't think chicken sandwiches are inherently political at all. But the chuds do and that provides comedy for everyone else and $$ for the grifting shitheads like this woman.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1664006142257930245

Naturally Popeye's is the perennial contender in this matchup. But if you have a Culvers, I highly recommend their chicken sandwich too. And don't sleep on Arby's chickens sandwich, which I think is the real Darkhorse in the CS race.

 

[The Cat]

I don't think chicken sandwiches are inherently political at all. But the chuds do and that provides comedy for everyone else and $$ for the grifting shitheads like this woman.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1664006142257930245

Naturally Popeye's is the perennial contender in this matchup. But if you have a Culvers, I highly recommend their chicken sandwich too. And don't sleep on Arby's chickens sandwich, which I think is the real Darkhorse in the CS race.

Chicken PDQ is pretty good too...

 

[Virtual ghost]

This is all true but there is one more bigger level to all this. Which is international trade and trade deficits.
Therefore if you mess this up neither party will be able to make it really work for average Joe. In other words the politics will try to buy time with living on debt but that isn't going to work on the long run. So the problem isn't really so much in the political parties but in the private sector that engaged in too much outsourcing and thus messed up the foundation of social order. In the closed system even trickle down economics can provide results. However in the open system the money will trickle down but there are no guarantees whatsoever that destination of the money will be in your own country. This is why young people tend to hate Republican party. Since their fundamental paradigms don't work in modern world. While on the other hand many are starting to hate Democratic party as well, since they aren't doing enough. However one of the main reasons for that is that all of this has to be based on debt. Since the whole country doesn't really have the physical productivity to support this amount of struggling people.

So the only way to truly fix this isn't really at the ballot box but at the store. Until you start buying domestic products in mass and thus start (re)building local manufacturing base this is the problem that can't really be solved just through pure politics. Because local manufacturing is very important, especially since that means that problem solving will fuel local economy. What makes problem solving much more affordable if the money is rotating inside more or less closed system.


However since US is individualist country it is generally politically incorrect talking about how others do business. However until you have honest public debate on this the problem wouldn't go away. Since problem isn't fundamentally political in textbook sense, the problem is economical.

 

[ceecee]

Chicken PDQ is pretty good too...

I agree. I've had it in Fl, it's good. Up here, a lot of places serve something called broasted chicken. It's marinated then pressure fried and the result is incredibly juicy and crispy. I think WI might have invented it and, while WI has it's problems, broasted chicken, cheese curds and beer aren't one of them (but you can take your toddler to a bar and get them a beer).

 

[SensEye]

But Republicans aside: what confuses me more is that Democrats openly plan to send Biden into 2024 race. The guy who is obviously too old and too unpopular for all of this. Not to mention that in this case VP will truly matter, while his VP has even worse approval numbers. I just can't believe that the party is so rigid that they don't see the problem here.

I agree 100% here. The only theory I can come up with is Biden's handlers are basically running the government. I realize all president's have advisors and aids and they are probably often involved in crafting policy. However, I think in the past, they still have to run their policy by the president get his approval/critiques etc. I'm sure in this case the president has his own thoughts on policy and has the final word on whether his advisors suggestions are in line with his thinking.

I suspect with Biden, he just rubber stamps everything. My impression is he just doesn't have the intellectual capacity to actually comprehend any issue even remotely complex. Ergo, his handlers have much more power and influence. Probably more than they could ever acquire on their own. So I suspect this behind the scenes cabal strongly supports keeping Biden in the big chair so they can maintain their POTUS like level of power 'from behind the throne'.

On another topic, I am surprised to see you seem to be of the belief DeSantis will win the Republican nomination. I would be pleased with anybody but Trump, but from what I can see, Trump is still the runaway favorite. I hope you are right though. I would be interested to see how DeSantis fares against Biden in a general election.

 

[ceecee]

I agree 100% here. The only theory I can come up with is Biden's handlers are basically running the government. I realize all president's have advisors and aids and they are probably often involved in crafting policy. However, I think in the past, they still have to run their policy by the president get his approval/critiques etc. I'm sure in this case the president has his own thoughts on policy and has the final word on whether his advisors suggestions are in line with his thinking.

I suspect with Biden, he just rubber stamps everything. My impression is he just doesn't have the intellectual capacity to actually comprehend any issue even remotely complex. Ergo, his handlers have much more power and influence. Probably more than they could ever acquire on their own. So I suspect this behind the scenes cabal strongly supports keeping Biden in the big chair so they can maintain their POTUS like level of power 'from behind the throne'.

On another topic, I am surprised to see you seem to be of the belief DeSantis will win the Republican nomination. I would be pleased with anybody but Trump, but from what I can see, Trump is still the runaway favorite. I hope you are right though. I would be interested to see how DeSantis fares against Biden in a general election.

But Trump does? lol. Now come on, the man's ideas consist of dropping a nuclear bomb into a hurricane and injecting disinfectant. I'm not a Biden fan by any stretch but I have yet to hear a single argument other than "handlers" and "intellectual capacity". Same sort of arguments people give me about Nancy Pelosi. I'm simply asking for some fresh material.

My issue with Biden is that he is unwilling to use the methods at his disposal as president. That doesn't come from handlers. It comes from him spending years in the Senate. Or have most people forgotten about that?

 

[The Cat]

But Trump does? lol. Now come on, the man's ideas consist of dropping a nuclear bomb into a hurricane and injecting disinfectant. I'm not a Biden fan by any stretch but I have yet to hear a single argument other than "handlers" and "intellectual capacity". Same sort of arguments people give me about Nancy Pelosi. I'm simply asking for some fresh material.

My issue with Biden is that he is unwilling to use the methods at his disposal as president. That doesn't come from handlers. It comes from him spending years in the Senate. Or have most people forgotten about that?

I suspect Democrats are hoping for voters to believe that once he doesnt have to worry about reelection he'll dark brandon into his final form and he could actually get a more fdr like footnote in history. They seem to be expecting the American people to pick that up via osmosis because they're certainly not good at messaging their accomplishments.

 

[Virtual ghost]

On another topic, I am surprised to see you seem to be of the belief DeSantis will win the Republican nomination. I would be pleased with anybody but Trump, but from what I can see, Trump is still the runaway favorite. I hope you are right though. I would be interested to see how DeSantis fares against Biden in a general election.

Ok, but you are forgetting that the choice will be made a year from now.
In other words I watch things on the long run and due to numerous reasons I think that Trump will only get weaker on the long run. Legal problems should get much worse, age-health should get worse, he is becoming more and more used up face instead of fresh outsider, money should get worse next to the opponents, others will copy him more ... etc.
I could be wrong in prediction but I simply wanted to make a bet with myself (but that was educated guess on my part).

However if DeSantis manages to get by Trump I don't give Biden that much of chance. Huge age difference, unpopularity due to numerous valid reasons ... plus in RCP average he is losing by 1.5 points to DeSantis. While the convention is that Dems have to win by 3.5 points in order to have any chance of winning electoral college. You just can't expect that abortion will save you for the second time when things are falling part.


To be honest I didn't want to spread talking points so I didn't link that video that Youtube has thrown at me the other day. However this is pretty important piece in making my prediction. Thus since you wonder: here is what made a bulk of my opinion, the video of how DeSantis actually looks when campaigning. Therefore I really think that this dude will be able to beat those two 80 year olds (even if that is a heresy by the standards of the media at this point). Therefore try to watch the whole thing to get full picture of what to expect from him in campaign. I mean this basically explains why he won his reelection by 20 points in a swing state. So as I said: I don't think that Dems are really ready for this, but I also think that huge parts of US will buy it.

 

[SensEye]

But Trump does? lol.

Where did I say that? And how on earth did you even remotely get the impression I am a Trump fan? Did you miss where I said: I would be pleased with anybody but Trump.

I don't really like DeSantis (I've expressed this before too). But I would probably take him over Biden. However, I would take a centrist Democrat (or Republican) over DeSantis. Anyways, I hope you are right ghost, because I don't see political sanity returning until Trump is off the stage.

 

[The Cat]

 

[Tomb1]

the true legend of dummy trump never dies...

Dummy Trump (2/26/2020): "The risk to the American people remains very low!"

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www.typologycentral.com

 

[Virtual ghost]

Fitch warns it could still cut U.S. debt rating even after deal

 

[Virtual ghost]

Long story short: towards new poll Manchin is losing his West Virginia seat by 22 points against clearly the most likely counter candidate.
The place is getting too red even for someone like Manchin.

 

[Totenkindly]

Ted Cruz is citing the Bible and preaching on Twitter in defense of gay people, and it's quite something

The Texas senator quoted the Bible in defense of LGBTQ communities, all while engaging in a Twitter spat with a pastor.

www.yahoo.com

What, did one of his kids come out or something?

EDIT: Oh. I guess I forgot about all this due to all the other crazy stuff in the news. But... yup.

Praise and backlash as Ted Cruz’s daughter comes out

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz is back in the news this week after his 13-year-old daughter, Caroline Cruz, posted a viral TikTok video exposing some of the family’s secrets.

www.sgn.org

And then there was a probable suicide attempt a year ago or something.

Never fails; they will be total jerks until one of their tribe comes out, and then it's either they bounce the person or do a 180 because now it's real.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Abortion Is Already Tripping Up The 2024 Republican Candidates

 

[The Cat]

 

[ceecee]

Trump Fans Sink Savings Into ‘Iraqi Dinar’ Scam

The president’s true believers are convinced he’s going to make them millionaires with Iraqi currency.

www.thedailybeast.com

It's amazing that anyone keeps falling for this shit but...

'Trump Bucks' Scam Swindles Thousand of Dollars From Unsuspecting Investors

The online retailer ClickBank shut down sites boosting “Trump Bucks,” which promoted a fabricated currency that would allegedly earn subscribers thousands of dollars if Donald Trump is elected in the 2024 presidential election. An investigation conducted by NBC News revealed several...

www.yahoo.com

 

[The Cat]

Trump Fans Sink Savings Into ‘Iraqi Dinar’ Scam

The president’s true believers are convinced he’s going to make them millionaires with Iraqi currency.

www.thedailybeast.com

It's amazing that anyone keeps falling for this shit but...

'Trump Bucks' Scam Swindles Thousand of Dollars From Unsuspecting Investors

The online retailer ClickBank shut down sites boosting “Trump Bucks,” which promoted a fabricated currency that would allegedly earn subscribers thousands of dollars if Donald Trump is elected in the 2024 presidential election. An investigation conducted by NBC News revealed several...

www.yahoo.com

It's like they keep inviting grifters into their homes, help them load up the truck with everything they own, and then shooting themselves in the foot so that the robber has time to get away. Madness. Tragic. The circle remains unbroken. Fear is an expensive hobby.