Random Politics Thread

[Coriolis]

"One of the problems with running a criminal conspiracy is that there's no way to avoid trust issues with your employees. If you steal with a guy, he knows you're a thief. If you kill with him, he knows you're a killer."​

Soldiers see each other kill, too, but will often trust each other with their lives, and to have their backs.

 

[The Cat]

Soldiers see each other kill, too, but will often trust each other with their lives, and to have their backs.

For the most part the RNC aint soldiers though, much to Dan Crenshaw's chagrin.

 

[Virtual ghost]

McCarthy is a complete jello spine so the extremists seem to have it right in this one particular case. He is a big part of the reason Trump and the MAGA thing are still alive — because McCarthy didn't have the backbone to stand up to them and move on. He just hasn't provided any effective leadership whatsoever.

Yeah, I saw the news about failed vote for the speaker just about everywhere. However there is always a gazillion comments bellow saying that he shouldn't get that chair.

 

[Stigmata]

McCarthy is a complete jello spine so the extremists seem to have it right in this one particular case. He is a big part of the reason Trump and the MAGA thing are still alive — because McCarthy didn't have the backbone to stand up to them and move on. He just hasn't provided any effective leadership whatsoever.

The problem is that the extremists are right, but for the wrong reasons. The Freedom Caucus members are to the right of even McCarthy -- substantively, there is no real disagreement in terms of policy that is the dividing line here between them and McCarthy.

It seems the main concessions they want from him is to be able to effectively create a mechanism to bring forth a vote to replace the speaker with as little as one House rep being able to initiate the process, as well as a promise to him to gut what remains of the House ethics committee, and pledge to cut medicare/social security. These people are in no way interested in helping the American people, and are really just grandstanding for clout at this point.

 

[The Cat]

The problem is that the extremists are right, but for the wrong reasons. The Freedom Caucus members are to the right of even McCarthy -- substantively, there is no real disagreement in terms of policy that is the dividing line here between them and McCarthy.

It seems the main concessions they want from him is to be able to effectively create a mechanism to bring forth a vote to replace the speaker with as little as one House rep being able to initiate the process, as well as a promise to him to gut what remains of the House ethics committee, and pledge to cut medicare/social security. These people are in no way interested in helping the American people, and are really just grandstanding for clout at this point.

A single vote of no confidence...where have i heard something like that before...

 

[ceecee]

McCarthy is a complete jello spine so the extremists seem to have it right in this one particular case. He is a big part of the reason Trump and the MAGA thing are still alive — because McCarthy didn't have the backbone to stand up to them and move on. He just hasn't provided any effective leadership whatsoever.

It's beyond a lack of leadership. McCarthy has said (and promised The Freedom Caucus) that his first move will be to gut the Office of Congressional Ethics. Oh and investigating Hunter Biden's laptop of course. I would imagine any other GOP speaker would also do the same.

Advocacy groups denounce GOP proposals to ‘gut’ ethics office - Roll Call

A GOP-proposed House rules package would oust Democrats from the bipartisan ethics office and make hiring more difficult.

rollcall.com

Nothing about inflation, the price of food, rent no one can afford, homeless, opioid crisis, public health, healthcare in shambles.....I can go on and on. The GOP can't govern. They are wholly uninterested in governing and at this point, say hello to 1855 - this is how it went down for the Whigs and if Trump wants to start a third party, it will be a repeat. I have no idea why anyone outside of right wing fanatics and the wealthy vote for them.

 

[Virtual ghost]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

That thought evidently crossed my mind here.

 

[The Cat]

Four years you'd think for sure
That's all you've got to endure
All the total dicks
All the stuck-up chicks
So superficial
So immature
And then when you graduate
You take a look around
And you say hey wait
This is the same as where
I just came from
I thought it was over
Oh that's just great!
The whole damn world
Is just as obsessed
With who's the best dressed
And who's having sex
Who's got the money
Who gets the honeys
Who's kinda cute
And who's just a mess
And you still don't have the right look
And you don't have the right friends
Nothing changes but the faces
The names and the trends
High school never ends!

 

[The Cat]

 

[ceecee]

This is exactly what the dems should do, verbatim. Boebert as speaker is exactly what they deserve.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

This is exactly what the dems should do, verbatim. Boebert as speaker is exactly what they deserve.

Maybe she can take them all to Shooters and they can get food poisoning.

Edit: Oh noes, it's closed.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

A single vote of no confidence...where have i heard something like that before...

Except he's the Senate, not the House.

 

[The Cat]

This is exactly what the dems should do, verbatim. Boebert as speaker is exactly what they deserve.

if only they would.

Except he's the Senate, not the House.

It's also Episode I remember how innocent you were before episode 1?

 

[The Cat]

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

if only they would.

It's also Episode I remember how innocent you were before episode 1?

There is a pretty big difference in my perception of the world before 2000 and after 2000. It's a point where things started on a downward spiral. Episode I was 99 so there is still a feeling of innocent exuberance about it for me. I know people rip on it but I saw it three or four times on theaters. I think I like it better even now than Episode 9 which is a lot of pointless crap about legacies and empty member berries with no sense that anything actually changed.

I was also 14 when the movie came out, so it's hard to be sure how much of this is just me growing up.

I do know I thought Natalie Portman was hot.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I really liked Al Gore. The fact that people saw him as a boring robot only further endeared hom to me.

Naturally every fucking candidate that wins office has to have "charisma" and maybe a vapid slogan to go with it.

If you go back and study 2000, you can see that the post-truth era is nothing new.

 

[The Cat]

I really liked Al Gore. The fact that people saw him as a boring robot only further endeared hom to me.

Naturally every fucking candidate that wins has to have "charisma" and maybe a vapid slogan tp go with it.

I liked Al Gore because he seemed to understand that we lived in an ecosystem.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I liked Al Gore because he seemed to understand that we lived in an ecosystem.

Well, yeah.

I'd read a lot about global warming in science books so it would have been nice to have somebody who wanted to do something about that.

 

[The Cat]

Well, yeah.

I'd read a lot about global warming in science books so it would have been nice to have somebody who wanted to do something about that.

It really would have been, though I'd much rather it be considered profitable/essential for national security, to go green. Because like, you know, it actually is, rather than just a single president. But sometimes I like to take a gander into the reality where Ted Cruz never made his way into politics and we got an entirely different 2000 election.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

It really would have been, though I'd much rather it be considered profitable/essential for national security, to go green. Because like, you know, it actually is, rather than just a single president. But sometimes I like to take a gander into the reality where Ted Cruz never made his way into politics and we got an entirely different 2000 election.

I find it hard to shake the feeling that we have been watching the downfall of civillization for the past 23 years. Similar to the fall of Rome but with a more global scope. It's what you get with a culture obsessed with aesthetics and "branding" and disinterested in everything else.