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Texas social workers can turn away LGBTQ clients, new rule says | The Texas Tribune

Texas social workers are criticizing a state regulatory board’s decision this week to remove protections for LGBTQ clients and clients with disabilities who seek social work services.
The Texas State Board of Social Work Examiners voted unanimously Monday to change a section of its code of conduct that establishes when a social worker may refuse to serve someone. The code will no longer prohibit social workers from turning away clients on the basis of disability, sexual orientation or gender identity.
 

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Do you think ratification and passage of the ERA would help to prevent this type of stuff? Obviously that's only half of it, and laws still require actual enforcement.

I don't know but it seems like a double edged sword - anything federal vs state level and right wing erosion of these laws. Actual amendment would be a different story but we are nowhere near there. But I'm truly expecting legislation in right wing run states that deems discrimination legal for all marginalized people, including poor whites, to pass at some point. Especially if the federal administration remains with fash leaning GOP.
 

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I don't know but it seems like a double edged sword - anything federal vs state level and right wing erosion of these laws. Actual amendment would be a different story but we are nowhere near there. But I'm truly expecting legislation in right wing run states that deems discrimination legal for all marginalized people, including poor whites, to pass at some point. Especially if the federal administration remains with fash leaning GOP.

That’s what kills me, is that more white people don’t see when bad policy affects them too
 

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That’s what kills me, is that more white people don’t see when bad policy affects them too

Same as many whites won't see that police reform will benefit them too, for example. It's hard to know if that is driven by many of them being like lalalala life is too short to worry about this vs the ones that actually strive to make the US as much of an ethnostate as they believe they deserve. And I don't really know if there is as much of a divide of those camps as there once was.
 

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Same as many whites won't see that police reform will benefit them too, for example. It's hard to know if that is driven by many of them being like lalalala life is too short to worry about this vs the ones that actually strive to make the US as much of an ethnostate as they believe they deserve. And I don't really know if there is as much of a divide of those camps as there once was.

I think it’s misunderstanding. They assume the left wants to abolish police altogether.

I do find some sympathetic libertarians who support police reforms, but even then I run into a lot who just want to talk about law and order.
 

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I think it’s misunderstanding. They assume the left wants to abolish police altogether.

I do find some sympathetic libertarians who support police reforms, but even then I run into a lot who just want to talk about law and order.

Most libertarians I know are anarcho-socialists although we have had a few new members at the DSA, all are veterans and all identify with being libertarian. They still needed a little educating on what we mean when we say "defund the police" and I think that's a good thing to want to clarify and ask for clarification on. It's not obliterate the police and fire them into the sun. We only say that about the senate.
 

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Most libertarians I know are all anarcho-socialism although we have had a few new members at the DSA, all are veterans and all identify with being libertarian. They still needed a little educating on what we mean when we say "defund the police" and I think that's a good thing to want to clarify and ask for clarification on. It's not obliterate the police and fire them into the sun. We only say that about the senate.

Yeah, I've been encountering more left libertarians (the only true kind of libertarian, when you really look into the original philosophy) in libertarian groups on facebook; it gives me hope that it wasn't all a bunch of right wing minarchists as I had originally suspected. And a surprising number of ones who are open to ideas like mutualism and some redistribution of wealth. Once they realize that supporting free range capitalism is little different than supporting a central authoritarian gov't, they tend to pull left. Quite a few like myself who talk about going from Friedman and Sowell to Chomsky and Kropotkin. Or maybe from Peterson to Chomsky is more accurate? Not that I think JP is without value, I just find he is a terrible role model when it comes to politics and economics.

I would love to see a libertarian to socialist pipeline, why isn't this happening more?
 

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Yeah, I've been encountering more left libertarians (the only true kind of libertarian, when you really look into the original philosophy) in libertarian groups on facebook; it gives me hope that it wasn't all a bunch of right wing minarchists as I had originally suspected. And a surprising number of ones who are open to ideas like mutualism and some redistribution of wealth. Once they realize that supporting free range capitalism is little different than supporting a central authoritarian gov't, they tend to pull left. Quite a few like myself who talk about going from Friedman and Sowell to Chomsky and Kropotkin. Or maybe from Peterson to Chomsky is more accurate? Not that I think JP is without value, I just find he is a terrible role model when it comes to politics and economics.

I would love to see a libertarian to socialist pipeline, why isn't this happening more?

I can only assume that much if the rhetoric that they have been hearing for years is of the conservative variety. But it seems strange to stand up and be counted with a left wing political view that claims independent thought, only to line up with shitty conservative capitalists. They're pissed off they can't get women, can't get anyone to take them seriously and wonder why no one wants to be around them. They also can't seem to connect the dots on - if you support sub human garbage policy - people are going to assume you are also subhuman garbage.
 

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I can only assume that much if the rhetoric that they have been hearing for years is of the conservative variety. But it seems strange to stand up and be counted with a left wing political view that claims independent thought, only to line up with shitty conservative capitalists. They're pissed off they can't get women, can't get anyone to take them seriously and wonder why no one wants to be around them. They also can't seem to connect the dots on - if you support sub human garbage policy - people are going to assume you are also subhuman garbage.

Well, something else that occurred to me, it sort of is a libertarian to socialist pipeline, if you consider that a lot of those people just didn't identify as the former, but were already sort of there when they entered the pipeline.

The ones who move right, on the other hand, I think they were already halfway to the right, and I think their supposed infatuation with libertarianism is rooted in some idea they have of the ideal mensch which in their mind resembles a hybrid of John Galt and every Arnold Schwarzeneggar character.

It's an interesting contrast for sure
 

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Are Maps Rebranding? (The Truth About P.E.A.R's) - YouTube

I don't know if this is considered "political" but I'm very inclined toward this small problematic movement of online people trying to suggest being a fucking pedophile is an a-okay sexuality. They usually call themselves "MAPs" but PEARs apparently is becoming a thing now too.

Sexuality involves gender not age you fucking twats.
 

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I wonder if California will become the next Detroit, like Shapiro mentions.
 
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Remember when CNN used to actually do journalism?
 
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