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Completely fucked. But Trump followers are also usually anti-globalists with little grasp of what that even means. We are already globalists - that can't be pulled back. And this is what happens when you put a CEO or a religious fanatic elected to Congress in charge of the entirety of US foreign policy and diplomacy, not to mention national security and foreign relations (there are still about a hundred vacant positions for ambassadors, they are our eyes and ears in other countries, this makes us weak.).

List of Ambassadorial Appointments

Last I heard, Biden is building a new State Dept. from the ground up. I hope he has a complete set of rock star diplomats for Sec. of State and deputies too.

Bruh, don't get me started on how dumb the term "globalist" is (referring to the pejorative connotation) lmao. It speaks volumes when a simple return to a normal, functioning government department is legions ahead of what this administration has done. I think it's a bipartisan issue that our international relations have been so gripped by militarism that we ignore the importance of diplomacy and foreign aid/development done right. But, this new Republican Party is a very weird mix of extreme military hawkishness with a tendency towards isolationism. It's strange for sure.

Yeah, I'm critical of Biden in many areas (still voting for him). Hell, I'm critical of the Democrats when they bungle opportunities for real change with respect to issues they should win or have a definite stance on easily. But, if there's one area I'm more confident that his administration could excel in, it's bringing the State Department back to some semblance of competence again.
 

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Bruh, don't get me started on how dumb the term "globalist" is (referring to the pejorative connotation) lmao. It speaks volumes when a simple return to a normal, functioning government department is legions ahead of what this administration has done. I think it's a bipartisan issue that our international relations have been so gripped by militarism that we ignore the importance of diplomacy and foreign aid/development done right. But, this new Republican Party is a very weird mix of extreme military hawkishness with a tendency towards isolationism. It's strange for sure.

Yeah, I'm critical of Biden in many areas (still voting for him). Hell, I'm critical of the Democrats when they bungle opportunities for real change with respect to issues they should win or have a definite stance on easily. But, if there's one area I'm more confident that his administration could excel in, it's bringing the State Department back to some semblance of competence again.

Yeah, same.
 

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When I hear this guy mentioned I always laugh at how he spoke to a BBC interviewer once and jumped to the conclusion that the guy was an anti-conservative liberal because he worked for the BBC, the guy in question is an actual Arch-Conservative who had been involved in biased reporting for years.

It makes me smile still.

I still find it funny that conservatives touted him as an "intellectual". But there are no conservative intellectuals - I think that's been made abundantly clear.
 

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I still find it funny that conservatives touted him as an "intellectual". But there are no conservative intellectuals - I think that's been made abundantly clear.

You know, these types of sloppy mistakes are disappointing to read. Notice what I put in bold. It wouldn't matter if you had typed conservative, liberal, anarchist, nazi, or racist. The statement is incorrect on its face since you have no way of knowing every conservative, liberal, anarchist, nazi, or racist on the earth. You should be above that nonsense, or maybe I'm just expecting too much from you. Had you simply typed "I don't know many conservative intellectuals," it would have passed.
 

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I still find it funny that conservatives touted him as an "intellectual". But there are no conservative intellectuals - I think that's been made abundantly clear.

If you examine the "theory", for what its worth, there shouldnt be such a thing as conservative intellectuals anyway, their whole point has always been that from the first discussions of reason and rationalism it has all be the inventions of the intelligentsia and prejudice, intuition, practical reason is all a surer guide to life, governance, business.
 

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You know, these types of sloppy mistakes are disappointing to read. Notice what I put in bold. It wouldn't matter if you had typed conservative, liberal, anarchist, nazi, or racist. The statement is incorrect on its face since you have no way of knowing every conservative, liberal, anarchist, nazi, or racist on the earth. You should be above that nonsense, or maybe I'm just expecting too much from you. Had you simply typed "I don't know many conservative intellectuals," it would have passed.

They wherent making the point, I think, and maybe they were just taking a generalized pot shot but there is a point to the whole conservatism is anti-intellectual in outlook.

There is a sense in which I'd be fine with that, if it where anti-elitist but it doesnt always mean that.
 

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Merriam-Webster's Definition of Intellectual

1.
a : of or relating to the intellect or its use
b : developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience : RATIONAL
c : requiring use of the intellect

2.
a : given to study, reflection, and speculation
b : engaged in activity requiring the creative use of the intellect


Man, does that rule out a lot of people.
 

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Merriam-Webster's Definition of Intellectual

1.
a : of or relating to the intellect or its use
b : developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience : RATIONAL
c : requiring use of the intellect

2.
a : given to study, reflection, and speculation
b : engaged in activity requiring the creative use of the intellect


Man, does that rule out a lot of people.

I dont know many living intellectuals:unsure:
 

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Merriam-Webster's Definition of Intellectual

1.
a : of or relating to the intellect or its use
b : developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience : RATIONAL
c : requiring use of the intellect

2.
a : given to study, reflection, and speculation
b : engaged in activity requiring the creative use of the intellect


Man, does that rule out a lot of people.

Do they mean theoretical or practical reason?
 

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Our new issue, “After Bernie,” is out now. Our questions are simple: what did Bernie accomplish, why did he fail, what is his legacy, and how should we continue the struggle for democratic socialism

You're joking, right? Here's a hint:

Sanders has admitted that his 2016 campaign was “too white.” Indeed, his inability to excite a large group of voters beyond his majority-white base led to a pummeling across the South. Older black voters knew Clinton; Sanders was the one rolling the boulder uphill. He lost the black vote by 90 percent in Arkansas, by 86 percent in South Carolina, and by 89 percent in Tennessee. In Missouri, where he lost by the slim margin of 0.2 percent, he lost the black vote by 67 percent.

For many voters, the 2016 election was their first introduction to the Vermont senator with the unkempt hair and radical ideas. He knew more people would know his name if he ran again in 2020, but he needed to do more: He needed to hire a more diverse staff, attend events at historically black colleges and universities, speak to black media and black people directly, and, perhaps more than anything, listen to black voices.

He did all that. But despite his efforts, the support never quite materialized.

Why Did Bernie Sanders Lose the Black Vote? - The Atlantic


If I were given but two words to explain it all to Bernie, I would choose: Bobby Kennedy.
 

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I say in the conclusion to the book that civilisations that discard Judeo-Christian values end up in really dark places. And civilisations that discard reason end up in similarly dark places. I think that the mistake of secular humanism is to believe, like the French Revolution believed, that you “strangle the last king with the entrails of the last priest,” and that what arises is some sort of glorious utopia. I don’t think that that’s correct. I think that you have to understand where it is that we have come from, so that we can actually take what is good from what we’ve had and maintain that and cherish that.

Maybe you should just go back there and stay.
 

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Everyone says they want to discuss politics these days, but i am personally reluctant because I am of the opinion no one wants to know what I really think.
 

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Maybe you should just go back there and stay.

*scratches head* France seems to have done ok in the years since they became a secular, unitary semi-presidential constitutional republic. Except for that Unitary authoritarian dictatorship thing in the 1940's.

Ben Shapiro also believes Athens and Jerusalem are the only things that have shaped the Western world. Let me know when we start using Hebrew or Greek numbers in the US - for openers.
 

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The strongest argument against a self-governing society is a 5-minute conversation with a Trump supporter.
 
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