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There's also recriminalization in Oregon to consider.

I'm just amazed (well, not really because I've seen it a few times before) at how quickly and how little it takes for people to reverse their deep convictions. This is why I don't trust many of these politicians.

None of this fills me with confidence; it signals "retreat" to me. Republicans don't care about facts, data, policies, or numbers. Even if these are good policies, there is so much precedent for Republicans not caring and continuing to do what they were doing away. We don't even have to look that far back.

Ok, but someone has to clean up the cities. So in my book it is better that the democrats do it before people elect republicans to do it.

As I told you the unregulated globalization is over and that means that situation in US cities has to be "regulated" as well. Since they have to be up and running because globally everyone aren't friends anymore. What means that those cities have to be doing for what they were build, living and economy. What can't be done if there is chaos on the ground.
 
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Ok, but someone has to clean up the cities. So in my book it is better that the democrats do it before people elect republicans to do it.
My worry is that people elect Republicans anyway. I have my doubts with the strategic thinking being used. Remember the border bill the Republicans didn't vote for? I think it was a political calculation, but was it the right one? Will they actually gain any votes?

I'm reminded of the 2004 strategy (perhaps I go to this well too often), which was intended to convince Americans of how patriotic and pro-millitary the Democratic Party could be. It ended in Republicans getting their only popular vote victory within the past 32 years.

These are probably not the same people making these decisions today, but I never assume that just because someone claims political expertise, that they will make better decisions than I would. Much of it seems like reading sheep entrails. I think they're operating under a lot of fallacies about Republican and moderate voters; and have inaccurate ways of understanding how the Republican party has changed over the years. I think there is still a real tendency for them to underestimate their opponent, regrettably.

I unfortunately cannot trust their judgment until I see it bear fruit.
 

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My worry is that people elect Republicans anyway. I have my doubts with the strategic thinking being used. Remember the border bill the Republicans didn't vote for? I think it was a political calculation, but was it the right one? Will they actually gain any votes?

I'm reminded of the 2004 strategy (perhaps I go to this well too often), which was intended to convince Americans of how patriotic and pro-millitary the Democratic Party could be. It ended in Republicans getting their only popular vote victory within the past 32 years.

These are probably not the same people making these decisions today, but I never assume that just because someone claims political expertise, that they will make better decisions than I would. Much of it seems like reading sheep entrails. I think they're operating under a lot of fallacies about Republican and moderate voters; and have inaccurate ways of understanding how the Republican party has changed over the years. I think there is still a real tendency for them to underestimate their opponent, regrettably.

I unfortunately cannot trust their judgment until I see it bear fruit.


Ok, but for me this is quite basic and straight forward topic that I don't see the point in getting into calculations. This simply has to be done if we consider the big picture.
 
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Ok, but for me this is quite basic and straight forward topic that I don't see the point in getting into calculations. This simply has to be done if we consider the big picture.
Even if it's the right thing to do, they won't get credit for it. Not unless they take messaging more seriously than they usually do.
 

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Even if it's the right thing to do, they won't get credit for it. Not unless they take messaging more seriously than they usually do.


That is another pair of shoes.
But I am not looking at this as PR story/issue. For me this simply has to be done from geo-strategic perspective. With implosion of unregulated globalization you basically need to have your own cities up and running. Since relaying on others in this regard is no longer realistic or smart.
 

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There's also recriminalization in Oregon to consider.
I guess they didn't anticipate how quickly the fentanyl peddlers would swoop in and flood the area + people with no idea of dosage would start to OD without med treatments being accessible, etc.

Might have been an idealistic cause, but you have to do a realistic assessment of probable impact.
 

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Shortly after the last polls closed in Russia, early returns pointed to the conclusion everyone expected: that Putin would extend his nearly quarter-century rule for six more years. According to Russia’s Central Election Commission, he had some 87% of the vote with about 80% of precincts counted.

The extraordinary early results — which Putin hailed as an indication of “trust” and “hope” in him — were another reflection of the preordained nature of the election. The Russian leader only faced competition from three token rivals and any public criticism of him or his war in Ukraine was stifled.

Putin’s fiercest political foe, Alexei Navalny, died in an Arctic prison last month, and other critics are either in jail or in exile. Unusually, Putin referenced Navalny by name in a news conference after polls closed. And he said he was informed of an idea to release the opposition leader from prison, days before his death. Putin said that he agreed to the idea, on condition that Navalny didn’t return to Russia...

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How many films have we seen that old chestnut -- "Yes, if you agree with my terms, you shall be FREE...!"

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