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[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

Lab-grown meat threatens Italian culture — Meloni minister

This is good example of the Right starting culture war where it is actually needed. After all if you have banned the GMO you may as well this crap.
Some people should take notes.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Santos ethics report finds ‘substantial evidence’ of criminal wrongdoing

 

[The Cat]

Lab-grown meat threatens Italian culture — Meloni minister

This is good example of the Right starting culture war where it is actually needed. After all if you have banned the GMO you may as well this crap.
Some people should take notes.

it blows my mind to see a right wing argument for the environment and not just spouting accelerationist jibber jabber.

 

[Virtual ghost]

it blows my mind to see a right wing argument for the environment and not just spouting accelerationist jibber jabber.

That was kinda the point of that post. In many cultures right doesn't have this totally libertarian approach to economy and life.
Not to long ago I watched my local political report on the scene that in US politics would be equivalent to something like: AOC and Mitch are planting together a tree in NYC Central park (in the name of preserving life on Earth). By my local standards all of this isn't that strange but even trying to picture US version of the event just screams "absurd". As I said the only meaningful way out of this is that US right evolves into the right from the rest of the developed world. That is ambitious but that turbo libertarian element has to go. Since that and modern tech are simply opening way too much fault lines, what then leads to constant social earthquakes. Tech of 21th century in the mix with 18th century economics .... what can possibly go wrong ?

 

[SensEye]

Santos ethics report finds ‘substantial evidence’ of criminal wrongdoing

Let's see if they throw this bum out of the party. Seems somewhat likely, but you never know if the Republicans fear losing his riding.

Let's see if they throw the fraudster/thief in jail. Very little chance. Politicians like to insure nobody is culpable for when they get caught with their own dirty dealings.

I note also Santos is spouting Trumpisms. Crooked justice system, witch hunt, political persecution, etc. A small, but not insignificant example regarding the harm Trump does undermining faith in the justice system.

 

[ceecee]

Let's see if they throw this bum out of the party. Seems somewhat likely, but you never know if the Republicans fear losing his riding.

Let's see if they throw the fraudster/thief in jail. Very little chance. Politicians like to insure nobody is culpable for when they get caught with their own dirty dealings.

I note also Santos is spouting Trumpisms. Crooked justice system, witch hunt, political persecution, etc. A small, but not insignificant example regarding the harm Trump does undermining faith in the justice system.

They already had a vote to expel him, which was defeated. Perhaps the people of the 3rd CD in NY should vet the people they vote for a little better next time, as a lot of this information was available if they did even the smallest amount of looking into the allegations which surfaced when he ran in 2020.

 

[Virtual ghost]

 

[The Cat]

 

[Virtual ghost]

The Squad's views on Israel could bolster primary opposition in 2024

 

[The Cat]

It cracks me up the level of surprise people have over George Santos. He's literally the mascot of a conman biting off more than he can chew, but if spitting it out were something he were capable of, he wouldn't be a congressman. TBH I wonder who he's trying to avoid having some private time with him. If I were a betting man, I'd wager that as soon as he's in a position to have the cameras off him, if he doesnt end up in the clink. My guy is just gonna vanish, till he turns up again in pieces.

 

[Red Herring]

Add parts of Canada to that and you might think that homicide is a New World problem, from Nunavut to Tierra del Fuego.
Especially since most of Asia has an extremely low homicide rate. And in fact according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime the Americas are the planet's most violent region, ahead of Africa. This is a curious phenomenon as it includes some of the world's richest countries as well as several very poor countries, Protestants and Catholics, democracies and authoritarian states, English, Spanish and French speaking as well as Indigenous regions. Yes, there is a colonial past, poverty, social inequality, ethnic tensions, a high degree of diversity that might challenge social cohesion, etc, but all of that also applies to Africa (and parts of Asia). Yes, North America is far better off than Central and South America but still surprisingly violent for rich first world countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

The world's deadlies region is the Carribean. In fact many African countries like Zimbabwe, Kenya, Cameroon, Niger, Tansania, Rwanda, Mozambique, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Malawi or Ghana have a visibly lower homicide rate than the United States. Senegal is safer than large parts of Europe.

I do have a theory, but that is more of an intuition.

 

[The Cat]

The Squad's views on Israel could bolster primary opposition in 2024

When ideology on all sides overwhelms practicality all around the times they are a changing.
Once upon a time While one mouth spoke over here, there was movement by a hand over there and everyone felt like a winner.
Now the stakes are so much higher, and not everyone is having a good time anymore.
2024 is a long way to go, and israel will learn as america did, its citizens dont have the attention span for actual war anymore. the fall of 03 people were all country song angry and ready to make grisly glass art, by fall of 04 war was not their voice and those pesky weapons were never there. This is a similar song, but people are more burnt out than they were in 03. The discourse over Israel in America at least is gonna be divided over people who back israel because their news network told them to, people who back Israel because they fear what their pastor told them God would do to any who stood against his chosen people, the people who are hoping this will kick off the apocalypse of Revelation and WWIII, etc etc and thats most libs and conservatives in this ven diagram. YOu'll also have the voices supporting the other team for one reason or another. Either they hate genocide, or recognize the irony of Israel's own flirtation with fascism in the west bank. Then there's the folks who are just against whatever is currently happening and theres a lot of mad people on all sides.
Personally I think things could still calm down, or turn around pretty quick.
But so far, things are pretty par for the course.
War aint exactly a scenic sunday drive. Last I checked it was always hell on earth.
Remember kiddos, maintain good situational awareness, and mark multiple escape routes and make note of all points of ingress or egress. When people panic, its already too late to avoid the stampede. Your best bet is to have made your way out before the inciting incident that sparks the panic. And remember. The worse things get the higher the ratings, so take these grains of salt along with your news reporting. Scared viewers are money in the bank.
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[The Cat]

I'm a shit creator. Yesterday in my toilet I saw Mullin.

I wouldnt take credit for that Dump man. That kind of turd shits itself into and out of existence.

 

[Virtual ghost]

Add parts of Canada to that and you might think that homicide is a New World problem, from Nunavut to Tierra del Fuego.
Especially since most of Asia has an extremely low homicide rate. And in fact according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime the Americas are the planet's most violent region, ahead of Africa. This is a curious phenomenon as it includes some of the world's richest countries as well as several very poor countries, Protestants and Catholics, democracies and authoritarian states, English, Spanish and French speaking as well as Indigenous regions. Yes, there is a colonial past, poverty, social inequality, ethnic tensions, a high degree of diversity that might challenge social cohesion, etc, but all of that also applies to Africa (and parts of Asia). Yes, North America is far better off than Central and South America but still surprisingly violent for rich first world countries.

I do have a theory, but that is more of an intuition.

I know and this is basically the outcome of what I called "libertarianism" a few post back. The new world never really took the time to establish genuine order and protocols. Instead everything is in the air most of the time and everything is fluid. What in the end has to result with some kind of permanent instability.

My government was designed so that there can't be shutdowns of it, guns are banned, open scam isn't acceptable business model, top politicians can serve a sentence if they go too far (CEOs as well), GMO is banned, healthcare system treats you regardless of wealth ... etc. Overall it is much more smooth ride and that is by design.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I know and this is basically the outcome of what I called "libertarianism" a few post back. The new world never really took the time to establish genuine order and protocols. Instead everything is in the air most of the time and everything is fluid. What in the end has to result with some kind of permanent instability.

My government was designed so that there can't be shutdowns of it, guns are banned, open scam isn't acceptable business model, top politicians can serve a sentence if they go too far (CEOs as well), GMO is banned, healthcare system treats you regardless of wealth ... etc. Overall it is much more smooth ride and that is by design.

I was going to respond about a preference for dangerous freedom as opposed to peaceful bondage, but the more important argument to be made, in the US at least, is that violence largely is a demographic issue.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I was going to respond about a preference for dangerous freedom as opposed to peaceful bondage, but the more important argument to be made, in the US at least, is that violence largely is a demographic issue.

Ok, because my comment goes to the entire new world, not just US. In that combination US is one of the more normal and stable countries. However none the less it has never really cleared up some of the colonial era undefined areas. From what I understand you guys have electoral college, but electors don't really have to vote how the people voted. In general this doesn't happen but to me it is problematic that this is even an option in legal sense. You guys also have elections where you don't have to show ID ... etc. For me working on the quality of the government is simply vital but in the US and new world in general this is all in the domain of status quo and is generally ignored. It simply seems that more people would prefer a simple smash and grab than having stable foundations. What for me is something completely different than bondage. Since to me this is more like removing all of the remains of bananas that are all over the floor. Because one day you are going to carry something heavy around and than that could lead into sights that are in cartoons for decades. To me being surrounded with various glitches and pitfalls is much closer to bondage.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Ok, because my comment goes to the entire new world, not just US. In that combination US is one of the more normal and stable countries. However none the less it has never really cleared up some of the colonial era undefined areas. From what I understand you guys have electoral college, but electors don't really have to vote how the people voted. In general this doesn't happen but to me it is problematic that this is even an option in legal sense. You guys also have elections where you don't have to show ID ... etc. For me working on the quality of the government is simply vital but in the US and new world in general this is all in the domain of status quo and is generally ignored. It simply seems that more people would prefer a simple smash and grab than having stable foundations. What for me is something completely different than bondage. Since to me this is more like removing all of the remains of bananas that are all over the floor. Because one day you are going to carry something heavy around and than that could lead into sights that are in cartoons for decades. To me being surrounded with various glitches and pitfalls is much closer to bondage.

A matter of perspective I guess.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Ok, because my comment goes to the entire new world, not just US. In that combination US is one of the more normal and stable countries. However none the less it has never really cleared up some of the colonial era undefined areas. From what I understand you guys have electoral college, but electors don't really have to vote how the people voted. In general this doesn't happen but to me it is problematic that this is even an option in legal sense. You guys also have elections where you don't have to show ID ... etc. For me working on the quality of the government is simply vital but in the US and new world in general this is all in the domain of status quo and is generally ignored. It simply seems that more people would prefer a simple smash and grab than having stable foundations. What for me is something completely different than bondage. Since to me this is more like removing all of the remains of bananas that are all over the floor. Because one day you are going to carry something heavy around and than that could lead into sights that are in cartoons for decades. To me being surrounded with various glitches and pitfalls is much closer to bondage.

The electoral college exists because the founding fathers didn't think common people should have much of a voice. This is in their own words, more or less. I would assume all the people hyping this up as the land of freedom either don't know this, or don't care.

 

[Virtual ghost]

The electoral college exists because the founding fathers didn't think common people should have much of a voice. This is in their own words, more or less. I would assume all the people hyping this up as the land of freedom either don't know this, or don't care.

It is late at night for me in Europe and these were just some random examples that first came to me. However the idea that your entire election results can just be completely "remade" in various electoral votes and courts is a complete red flag to me. That shouldn't be be legal. Here if it actually happens that there is some problem with the vote they just repeat it in that polling station.

However this topic isn't just a simple matter of perspective. Debt clock says that your government owes some 124% of your GDP, with the trend of fast further increase. While mine debt is at 61% of mine GDP, with the trend of decrease. Why all of that is the case is one very very complex subject but I am willing to bet that my more compact set of laws has something to do with this. Money loves stability, that is just how it is. Also since we are living in more and more complex world that means that the odds of randomly hitting the sweet spot are decreasing. What means that you have to deliberately aim for them, otherwise you are openly risking bankruptcy, injury, property damage ... etc .