Interesting. I wonder what the other NFJs think. So far we have only two NFJ opinions in this thread. Also interesting that you are the only NF so far who does not identify with idealism.I believe the concept of idealism applies much more strongly to NFPs than to NFJs, if it applies to NFJs at all. I do not have big hopes and dreams, or hold a belief of the way the world should be, and try to affect change to see my ideals realized. I see the world for what it is and I work with what I have presented to me to get the most out of it in a way that I feel is practical. I hold a lot of opinions have principle beliefs about life that are very contrary to mainstream culture, but I don't think that makes me an idealist because they are opinions and beliefs that I only apply to myself. I just want to live the way I live and be left alone to do it.
Interesting. I wonder what the other NFJs think. So far we have only two NFJ opinions in this thread. Also interesting that you are the only NF so far who does not identify with idealism.
Yes, you are an idealist. It doesn't mean you don't see things as they are. It means you see space for improvement. Applying things to yourself can make you an idealist, just not one interested in directing others. If being an idealist meant direct others, I would shoot myself in the face.
Seeing possibilities is an idealist thing. If you do anything with that or not is another thing. NFPs talk about how life should and can be caught up the "fairness". NFJs ask what can be done with what they have without so much a "should" as what is beneficial. For example - I am perfectly capable of recognizing something on a rational level, but I might not like it on a personal level. I am also not morally against it.
Yep.Then I wake up and feel miserable about how profoundly imperfect I am.
The thing is, ideals can only be realized with the help of practical considerations.Webster's says idealist means:
one guided by ideals; especially : one that places ideals before practical considerations
Yep, again.Personally, I'd like to think I'm guided by my ideals, but I try to make any practical aspects of life run in tandem. Balance.
I live my life on my own terms. I define myself, & my world on my own terms. I also accept that concrete reality encompasses simply more than my subjective perception of things, and I adapt and try to stay grounded within it.
So. I dunno.
Webster's says idealist means:
one guided by ideals; especially : one that places ideals before practical considerations
Personally, I'd like to think I'm guided by my ideals, but I try to make any practical aspects of life run in tandem. Balance.
So, still not sure how I'd vote on the poll.
I am definitely an idealist... I see the possibilities in situations and people. I make decisions based on the way I think things *should* be. However, it can also tend to make me really frustrated.