God damn bloomin subtle ninja like 5s!!!You personally? Er, yes. Considering.
Nice attachment, RC.
The M&M example is hilarious... simply because I've seen some of those very functions playing themselves out when my family eats Skittles.
Don't just read it, though. Do the exercise.
Yeah, I know. We're Ns, we don't need the real world.
It's amazing what you learn if you play with behaviors associated with your non-preferred functions.
Funny.. when you sent that to me, I read it through and imagined myself doing the exercises, and then decided I didn't REALLY need to do them. (Not sure why I didn't see it as an opportunity to eat M&Ms with impugnity.)
I think that this is wrong. INTJs are well known for not being bothered if your following the "correct" path (ie the one they chose). the one I know just gives you which just screams "looser".
I think that the P/J divide is at current understood wrong and is concentrated on too much as a kinda guide to how neatly you organise your sock draw. My friend who is an INTJ is as laid back as I am (hey I even have the mug "If I were any more laid back I'd be in a coma") and can be as laissez faire. However when it comes to thinking his preference for J makes him a more consistent and reliable thinker. If your into D&D, and understand alignments properly, then J's are lawful and Ps are more chaotic (note proper understanding requires being able to think of a rogue who steals but is lawful). Basically a J is a systematic thinker. Their designs are a network of tie up ends. Ps tend to have a lot more loose ends but the design is often more flexible and tends to have less weak areas (well except when someone finds one of those loose ends that is).
Anyhow that's how I see it breaking down
INTP - Can be a genius. More flexible than INTJ but tend to have loose ends all over.
INTJ - Strong ideas, generally more direct and forceful than an INTPs. Less flexible though.
ENTP - Innovative but can leave holes in their ides. Way more flexible thinkers than ENTJs.
ENTJ - Direct ideas which should achieve what they see as the main objectives. Often fail to have a plan which can accomodate the unforseen.
This kind of analysis kinda makes me think that INTP-ENTJ & ENTP-INTJ make good mixes for leadership. I know that when working with my father (ENTJ) that I can often help merely by pointing out where he's being unecessarily inflexible in his plans.
Anyhow, just some thoughts.
Oh and Ivy, you sound INFJ to me. No particular reasoning. You could be ENFJ as you do sound a lot like my sister, just calmer and more one on one (if that makes any sense).
Dude, it was a reply. replace the word post with the word reply in this quote of yours and you'll see the error.Yes Xander, first of all I ought to congratulate you on your splendid intellectual communications skills starting off your post with 'I think this is wrong'.
Are you judging this from a stand point of knowledge or theory?I think INTJ are more open-minded than INTPs because intuition is their superior function. INTPs may seem more flexible because intuition is on the outside for them and thinking for INTJs. But the reality of it is that INTJs are more flexible because they are more intuitive. They need to apply their ideas because their judgment function is extroverted. It is about the world, and this is what their decisions are about-external life and not some internal life as for the INTPs.
But the reality of it is that INTJs are more flexible because they are more intuitive.