Donald Trump

[Grand Admiral Crunch]

Trump's plans wreak of sloppy Te, imo. He was on this build-a-wall kick for a while before ever talking to border control agents. An Fe user would've done that before shooting their mouth off.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

I agree with the ESTP 8w7 assessment. Celebrity types even has him as an ESTP.

 

[Stephano]

Celebrity types even has him as an ESTP.

Meh, I disagree with a lot of their typings.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

Meh, I disagree with a lot of their typings.

Of course, no Ne would be completely satisfied with such bold conclusions.

 

[Stephano]

Of course, no Ne would be completely satisfied with such bold conclusions.

That's something I can fully agree with.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

As far as the Donald goes I think he fits the ESTP stereotype (showman promoter of sorts) plus brings a certain intensity but I haven't really thought of it functionally. How does one fit him neatly into the Se-Ti paradigm?

 

[Stephano]

As far as the Donald goes I think he fits the ESTP stereotype (showman promoter of sorts) plus brings a certain intensity but I haven't really thought of it functionally. How does one fit him neatly into the Se-Ti paradigm?

I think the reason some people see Trump as a Te dom is him being type 8. I don't see him using Si at all.
Se is very fitting for him though Ti isn't as obvious.

 

[anticlimatic]

INTJ

 

[cosmic royal]

A really unhealthy ESTP 7w8.

 

[Galaxy Gazer]

ESTP. Tertiary Fe is usually characterized by a disregard for the personal feelings of others (a sort of "the group shouldn't have to change to meet your needs" mindset). I see a lot of Se in him as well; he's spontaneous, charismatic, and not afraid to break traditional norms (ie. not being the typical ultra-conservative stereotype like many of his opponents).

 

[Galena]

An e3 with very, very scant contact with the introverted functions is my guess.

 

[Stephano]

Sounds like Trump to me. I'm going with ESTP 8w7 (3w2 7w8) sp/sx, probably an average to healthy level.

Changing to 8w7 - 6w? - 3w2 for his tritype. Thanks [MENTION=5684]Elfboy[/MENTION]

368, 683, 836 - The Justice Fighter - Verbally adept and a good reader of people and situations, you have the ability to identify unjust authority, rebel against tyranny and verbally spar against it. Your life mission is to challenge what is unfair and protect the innocent. A true justice fighter, you are happiest when you can use your protective energy and debating skills in service of others or a cause. Your blind spot is that you can be so identified with challenging what you perceive as unfair that you become overbearing, confrontational, anti-authoritarian, and indifferent to the wisdom of emotional intelligence and your tender emotions. Your growing edge is to recognize that your need to challenge and oppose can keep you from knowing who you are or what you feel. True protection comes from being in alignment with your higher self and knowing when to intervene and when to allow events to unfold.

eight with a three fix: the notably success oriented, prominence seeking eight. utilizes
image and manipulation to advance their career or enterprise.
business achievement can lead to political aspirations.

 

[Kasia93]

Changing to 8w7 - 6w? - 3w2 for his tritype. Thanks [MENTION=5684]Elfboy[/MENTION]

That's a very common tritype for ENTJs, which is possibly why a minority thinks he's an ENTJ. I agree with you completely with ESTP 8w7.

 

[Forever]

A really unhealthy ESTP 7w8.

I'm afraid that's a misproper usage of unhealthy. A man who is as wealthy as he is really makes it to where being that successful requires either he is very old money or extremely corrupt in business which I believe he is neither of those.

What is proper to say is that he has a very unpopular method of approach to politics and ideology that may not be too sound.

What's different isn't necessarily wrong.
(I will negate the implication that I am a supporter of him but only trying to be fair and objective of him)

 

[cosmic royal]

I'm afraid that's a misproper usage of unhealthy. A man who is as wealthy as he is really makes it to where being that successful requires either he is very old money or extremely corrupt in business which I believe he is neither of those.

What is proper to say is that he has a very unpopular method of approach to politics and ideology that may not be too sound.

What's different isn't necessarily wrong.
(I will negate the implication that I am a supporter of him but only trying to be fair and objective of him)

Okay, that's fair. Although many of the things he's said makes me strongly dislike him (like his comments on women and his political plans), got to admit that the guy's got charisma. And he's spirited enough to win the presumptive nomination of the GOP. However, what bothers me the most about him is how much his supporters readily stand behind him. I'm not saying aiming this at all of them, but notable ones have instigated hate and violence.

Despite that, I do agree that something unorthodox isn't exactly wrong. It all depends on that person's perception.

 

[Kanra Jest]

ESTP. Both on vibe and the clear personality traits that have been revealed of him. And from what I can tell he isn't anywhere near as future oriented as some might see him, and is very impulsive in his speech, crude, putting his foot in his mouth many times and having to come to future oriented answers on the fly. It is also in no doubt that he is no ordinary ESTP and is one with Narcissist Personality Disorder (which is more common than one might think).

narcissistic ESTP 8

 

[sleuthiness]

ESTP. Both on vibe and the clear personality traits that have been revealed of him. And from what I can tell he isn't anywhere near as future oriented as some might see him, and is very impulsive in his speech, crude, putting his foot in his mouth many times and having to come to future oriented answers on the fly. It is also in no doubt that he is no ordinary ESTP and is one with Narcissist Personality Disorder (which is more common than one might think).

narcissistic ESTP 8

Narcissism is an ego-bound trait found in everyone
sp/so e89 estp, SLE-Ti subtype

State if you're reading this, brief little defence of the estj argument

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

I'm also in the ESTP camp for Trump. I think he is focused on sensation in the moment - he is the epitome of indulging in casino lifestyle, beauty pageants, etc.

Te tends to care more about accuracy, or if they are intentionally false, they will still care about giving the appearance of externally validated information. The humorous example of a Te person who fails at it is someone like Dwight Schrute from the office. It may be that Te is being thought of as synonymous with being intensely dominant without concern for feelings and such. Trump is hyper-dominant, but it isn't in a Te-way. Hilary is a good example of a hyper-dominant Te user.

 

[entropie]

I'm afraid that's a misproper usage of unhealthy. A man who is as wealthy as he is really makes it to where being that successful requires either he is very old money or extremely corrupt in business which I believe he is neither of those.

seriously?

 

[Showbread]

An e3 with very, very scant contact with the introverted functions is my guess.

I really don't see this at all. 3s carefully construct their "facade" so to speak. We chameleon to be liked and revered, and put a lot of effort into figuring who we need to be in each situation. I don't see this in Trump. He's blunt, impulsive, and offensive. He doesn't work to earn respect, he forces others into submission instead. 3's don't force, they woo. I suspect that a lot of the people who end up voting for Trump will do so begrudgingly, either out of hatred for Clinton, or loyalty to the right wing. I think only a select group of people actually find him appealing.