Donald Trump

[fetus]

ESTP 3w4/8w7/6w5. Maybe switch 3 and 8, and ENTJ, as an alternative.

 

[Kullervo]

ESTP 3w4/8w7/6w5. Maybe switch 3 and 8, and ENTJ, as an alternative.

Trump certainly comes across like the "unhealthy E3 celebrity" stereotype in public (a la Tom Cruise or Taylor Swift), but having seen him speak and read his quotes, l feel that his core motivations are more like those of an 8. Listen closely to the way he talks about America and what he thinks the solutions are. The guy is very very focused on dominance and strength, to a much greater extent than a core 3 would be in my opinion.

You may be mistaking that for his ESTP-ness and a so/sx stacking.

 

[meb2828]

He honestly seems to be too convoluted for anyone who doesn't know him personally to type him accurately. However, I do get an ESFP vibe from him.

 

[Thalassa]

ENTP with NPD giving him the external bravado typically more associated with Se. I used to think he was ESTP, but he's a complete bullshit artist, who relies on neither facts nor experience. What makes him dangerous is being emotionally frozen around the age associated with harmless Internet trolls.

 

[Jaguar]

He's obsessed with judging everything and everyone as "disgusting" if he doesn't like it. In essence, a petulant child who doesn't stop to think. He likes or dislikes. I wonder if he sucks his thumb while he sleeps.

 

[SD45T-2]

He's rather orange which would lead me to think citrus of some sort, but this is complicated by the fact that his hair looks like corn silk.

 

[Jaguar]

He's rather orange

Too many carrots. The waskly wabbit.

 

[D'Ascoyne]

ESTP 3w4/8w7/6w5. Maybe switch 3 and 8, and ENTJ, as an alternative.

I think E3 makes a lot of sense for Trump. But no way on him as an ENTJ. ESTJ perhaps, as he's a total control freak, and very much so when it comes to his image. He used to be able to hide that in the past behind his "I'm a real estate swashbuckler!" shtick, but now he's leaking all over the place.

 

[D'Ascoyne]

ENTP with NPD giving him the external bravado typically more associated with Se. I used to think he was ESTP, but he's a complete bullshit artist, who relies on neither facts nor experience. What makes him dangerous is being emotionally frozen around the age associated with harmless Internet trolls.

I'm considering it and I just can't see Trump as a P type, much less an Ne user. If he is an ENTP, as you propose, then he's certainly one of a kind.

 

[Thalassa]

I'm considering it and I just can't see Trump as a P type, much less an Ne user. If he is an ENTP, as you propose, then he's certainly one of a kind.

Because he's Pe/Je.

I think someone with Je first, would be a better leader.

 

[Kho]

I actually think he's an ESFJ that went off his f***ing rocker and is now trying really hard to pretend he doesn't give a f***. Poor kid.

 

[Thalassa]

I actually think he's an ESFJ that went off his f***ing rocker and is now trying really hard to pretend he doesn't give a f***. Poor kid.

No. He's an EXTP. That's why he don't care, hon. He just literally doesn't care. It's all about his hair.

 

[Kho]

No. He's an EXTP. That's why he don't care, hon. He just literally doesn't care. It's all about his hair.

But b.. but.. if he really didn't care. Why would he throw baby fit tantrums the way he does..? Like.. throwing water bottles??? Hating on the wimmin?Like idont get it

 

[Thalassa]

But b.. but.. if he really didn't care. Why would he throw baby fit tantrums the way he does..? Like.. throwing water bottles??? Hating on the wimmin?Like idont get it

He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. ..I understand this because of his writing to random people about the size of his hands ...you can't make rhyme or reason out of it. He's mentally ill.

 

[D'Ascoyne]

Trump certainly has issues, but I'm not qualified to diagnose him as anything other than an ignorant, selfish asshole. He is one of the worst examples of unbridled privilege and indulgence without measure. Past the orange bravado, he's a deeply insecure and unaware person. He's a reflection of his environment and experience, so I'm sure the psychology beneath his biography would be fascinating and illuminating.

Anyway, I disagree with him being an ExTP. This is a person who wants to build a wall at the border to keep Mexican people out. He's so into his wall idea. What can be more controlling a behaviour/action than wanting to construct a massive wall to keep others out? Besides which, his so-called vision/platform is so narrow, so puny. He has a strange kind of vigor (anger) about him, but I don't get a single drop of enthusiasm and curiosity from him whatsoever. He gives humankind a bad name, much less whatever MBTI type he actually is.

An ExTP would be extremely unlikely to approach diplomatic/social relations in this way. They're not this defensive, even when they're being defensive. Not only is it ridiculous, it's also lazy and lacking in any kind of genuine thought. Trump does not, and cannot, execute anything with the adaptability and quick-thinking known to ExTP, regardless of mental health. That said, if he is genuinely mentally ill, then it's not really possible to type him with any meaningful accuracy.

 

[Virtual ghost]

He is a 3 that projects all kinds of images, while mass media are amplifying those images and perhaps censure some of them.


Therefore we can't really know who is Donald Trump. (what is perhaps the main problem with the guy)

 

[andresimon]

I have respect for any man who at the age of 69, is onto his third wife and has sex more than once a day without Viagra. If that isn't indicative of good health I don't know what is.

As the Donald rightly pointed out - "if Hillary can't satisfy her husband what makes anybody think she can satisfy America?". A fair question, and nobody has deigned to answer it.

How do you know he has sex more than once a day? Were you in the room. Here is one thing you will learn about Trump. He says things others don't, but he is not authentic.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

ESTP

Here is one thing you will learn about Trump. He says things others don't, but he is not authentic.

Make your case? What do you mean by authentic?

 

[ZNP-TBA]

He is an ESTP, yes.

Everyone keeps talking about how "real" and "honest" and "straightforward he is." He isn't any of those things. He just says things that others don't. He says things that are more aggressive. He talks shit basically lol. He says things that are different. But it does NOT mean he believes the things he is saying. As an ESTP it would come naturally to him to bullshit. Not saying all ESTP's bullshit but I know a lot who do. He may have belief systems that justify it in his brain, like ... Dog eat dog world...I want to win...Survival of the fittest...People are generally stupid you should bullshit them.

I can also confidently say, that this is a game to him. He is genuinely enjoying it.

So you're still hanging on to the debunked narrative that he's just trolling the 2016 election?

 

[Stephano]

Wings
8w7 - Seeking Power and Stimulation
LifeExplore

Awakened Eights with a 7 wing are often expansive, and powerful. Gregarious and generous, they may display a cheerful bravado. Can be forceful but with a light touch, funny. Often have a sense of humor about themselves. Generally more extroverted, ambitious and materialistic. May talk loud and be sociable partygoers. Sometimes driven to bring the new into being. Can be visionary, idealistic, enterprising. Willing to take risks. May think more clearly than Eights with a 9 wing; 7 wing brings an intellectual capacity. When more entranced, aggression combines with gluttony to form an almost virulent tendency to addiction. Many entranced Eights with a 7 wing have had drug and alcohol problems or tensions around addiction. Prone to temperamental ups and downs - can be moody, egocentric, quick to anger. Tendency to court chaos, inflate themselves narcissistically. Some are ruthlessly materialistic. Can use people up, suck them dry. Maybe be explosive or violent, prone to distorted overreaction.

Sounds like Trump to me. I'm going with ESTP 8w7 (3w2 7w8) sp/sx, probably an average to healthy level.

Self-Preservation 8 - Seeking Saftey/Comfort
Udit Patel "Responsibility (Ichazo's "Affection")"

Self-Preservation Eights most live out the Eights' need for independence through the accumulation of power, position, and, sometimes, material wealth. That is not to say that all Self-Pres Eights are wealthy—most are not—but that this Variant seeks to have and to control whatever resources they can in order to maintain their independence and dominance. Thus, these Eights make shrewd business people and politicians and are extremely practical, approaching life with a tough-minded pragmatism they see as being simply "realistic." Often private people, their home is very important to them. Whether man or woman, the Self-Pres Eight rules the roost and is likely to control resources within the household. Positively, they are often excellent providers and have a way of landing on their feet no matter what life throws at them. Trouble spots include difficulty empathizing with the needs of others, especially if they perceive others as weak or ineffectual. Self-Pres Eights most typify the shrewd, pragmatic, wheeler-dealer aspect of this personality type.