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Cold war 2.0

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The video you probably wouldn't like too much.
However I will post it since this can be quite telling of what is too come in the big picture.
 

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Never liked Scholz due to his wishy washy support for Ukraine. Although I suspect the other parties are no better (and possibly worse) when it comes to this issue.
 

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Never liked Scholz due to his wishy washy support for Ukraine. Although I suspect the other parties are no better (and possibly worse) when it comes to this issue.
Nah, the far-left BSW and the far-right AfD are the two pro-Russian parties. Merz would likely support Ukraine more than Scholz did and the Greens are also stronger on Ukraine support than the SPD. So the next government, whether CDU-SPD or CDU-Greens will likely be stronger on this issue than Scholz was.

But let's be fair here and put things in perspective. To quote the Ukraine Support Tracker:

Currently, a significant gap exists on the European side between the committed €241 billion in aid and the €125 billion actually allocated. The US has already allocated €88 billion of its committed €119 billion.

The explanation for this gap on the European side lies in the substantial increase in aid commitments in October of around €52 billion, 35 from the EU and its institutions, intended for budget support to the Ukrainian government. The US has promised a good €18 billion for budget support.

Europe had already paid more to Ukraine than the US promised, let alone paid. For obvious reasons. Measured by percentage of GDP the biggest support comes from Finnland and Sweden (who both have a strong interest in keeping Russia at bay) as well as the UK. Europe is Ukraine's main supporter in terms of cash. And Germany is the most important financer within Europe. But as far as supplies go Germany's own army has been undersupplied for decades, our military equipment is a joke. Plus Scholz is obviously very afraid of escalating too much by helping Ukraine attack targets within Russia with German mid-range missiles (something that might change under the new government).
 

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Nah, the far-left BSW and the far-right AfD are the two pro-Russian parties. Merz would likely support Ukraine more than Scholz did and the Greens are also stronger on Ukraine support than the SPD. So the next government, whether CDU-SPD or CDU-Greens will likely be stronger on this issue than Scholz was.

Germany: CDU's Spahn says non-integrated Syrians should go


If I can ask: what is most likely to be behind this? Is this mostly electoral rhetoric or is this genuine political desire ?
(I mean whatever it is it will be copied all over the union)
 

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Germany — 2025 general election

When I see numbers and rhetoric from CDU my mind starts to wonder:

SPD+Greens have 30% and their chunk is growing.
Linke like the last time will make it indirectly and they have 3%
BSW is at 6 percent.

While it is quite possible that FDP wouldn't make it, what means that their 4% are going to all other parties.

What means that if every left wing party gains something like 2 to 3 percent on average over the next 2 months that would allow formation of pure left government. Is that politically possible I am not sure but that would be total system shock (that wouldn't be that much impossible to produce). After all this is what would allow the incumbent Chancellor to remain in power.
 
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