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Tories pick first Black woman to lead a major UK political party
UK Conservative Party elects Kemi Badenoch as new leader
It seems that UK conservatives decided to take me on my bet. Which was that if she takes over the party Farage will take over the right wing part of the spectrum in UK. It probably wouldn't be too long before we find out where all of this is going.
United Kingdom — 2024 election results
When you take a look at the polling average that is lower in the page the numbers are pretty exact. Farage is just 6% behind conservatives and only 10% behind ruling the Labor.
Tories pick first Black woman to lead a major UK political party
UK Conservative Party elects Kemi Badenoch as new leader
It seems that UK conservatives decided to take me on my bet. Which was that if she takes over the party Farage will take over the right wing part of the spectrum in UK. It probably wouldn't be too long before we find out where all of this is going.
United Kingdom — 2024 election results
When you take a look at the polling average that is lower in the page the numbers are pretty exact. Farage is just 6% behind conservatives and only 10% behind ruling the Labor.
I think that the EU should build its relationship with China as an alternative to the age old Russia versus US battle for hegemony.
How does China deal with political islam or Zionism? How does it deal with illegal immigration? Why doesnt have those same problems? I'm also interested in what the Chinese solutions to problems in the middle east might be as they have an entirely different relationship to all the players out there than any of the Russian or American / UK do.
While there is the potential for some sort of ethno-nationalism to bleed into the CCP, I'm not sure it has yet, in theory it should be anathema to them, although the Black Dragon society was a thing at a time and if I'm not wrong they were instrumental in the creation of Tiawan, with which the CCP has that bizarre obsession.
It could be interesting if a future EU-China, Eurasia, political alliance managed to challenge the political dominance of ethno-nationalism internationally, once and for all.
Just in case this isn't a joke and you don't rally know about what you are talking about:
China is quite nationalistic country and it's rise is due to nationalistic and imperialistic intentions. The so called "rejuvenation of Chinese nation". In other words EU and China are quickly distancing one from another since the two are incompatible and directly at odds on most things. In the time of open globalization when we were all friends globally it was possible to work something out. But since we entered the era of de-globalization the connections are imploding quickly. The open trade war is already a reality and it doesn't stop there. EU is trying to vote out pretty much everyone that is pro China around the union, some of these people are even under various EU sanctions. Also in Ukraine EU and China are directly at war with one another, since Russian troops are basically just cannon fodder of China's imperialism. In other words without the help of China Russia would already lost ability to attack further. In other words now that Russian's are loosing steam and they lost plenty North Koreans are coming in as fresh cannon fodder, since they as well are just satellite of China. Due to China's direct influence on the war in Ukraine China lost pretty much all support among EU countries (with exception of it's own Trojan horses in the union). Which as I said are being pressured and thus they are being voted out.
Also China out of 200 countries in this world ranks very very poorly in the terms of media freedoms. Since only about 5 to 10 countries have worse numbers (and those tend to be their allies and satellites). Not to mention that there are no elections of any kind in China. Which is kinda why there is so little drama related to the image of the country. Since the place is far less democratic than any western country will ever be. This is exactly why you have camps for various minorities that don't want to play along (most of these people tends to be Muslims). In other words the government controls pretty much everything and thus it is trying to make things work. However if you don't agree with the vision of the government you are in problems.
Plus they don't have problem with illegal immigration mostly because pretty much no one want's to go in. Standard of living isn't that high, pollution is terrible in most parts of the country, there is no welfare state to serious degree, worker rights tends to be very low by western standars. Plus if they caught you the odds are that you are going into some camp for a while (at best). In other words as the government controls everything there isn't that much you can do there even if you want to lead a low profile life.
While when it comes to Middle east China evidently has imperialistic vision for the region. This is exactly why they pushed Saudi Arabia, Iran and UAE to join BRICS (that China is basically leading). While now Turkey is also going in this direction. Since the idea is to clear out the region of western influence and take all of the recources. This is exactly why EU started to put more recources into the region. Since the collective west must not lose too much gound in this vital the region. In a sense this is exactly why Isreal is so much in action these days. Because they are the only country that is cleary pro western in that part of the world. Plus EU gave the nood that it will stand with Taiwan in the case of war there.
So yeah, China and EU are turing into major rivals. Especially since China's nationalism is working on fragmenting the EU by pushing various anti system politicians such as Orban and company. Since the idea is to fragment EU from inside and then US will be easier to deal with. In a sense Brexit was part of that story and UK was thrown into a mess through Brexit. What means that now it is much weaker player globally. What at the end of the day is opening new paths for China. This is exactly why more and more EU countries are significantly lowering their ties with China. Since it is evident that the two can't be friends. In other words this is exactly why Japan, Australia, South Korea, Taiwan and similar countries are openly getting close to NATO. SInce it is evident that China has big plans.
Dismissing others points in a discussion in this fashion is shameful, I've noticed you do it repeatedly, it belies a difficulty in communication and you really should think about it.
I covered current EU China relations, what is going on the Middle east regarding China, why China doesn't have problem with illegal immigration, Taiwan ... what is pretty much all of it from your post.
The real problem is that you don't like the content of my answer. Since it isn't pretty.
Well, you've told me repeatedly that I dont know what I'm talking about, which is no basis for discussion, I've seen you do the same with others on the forum here when they dont prove receptive of your, fairly limited, world view.
Mind how you go but decide whether its better to discussion things or just lecture some imaginary gallery will you.
Ok, the opening line was perhaps a little bit rude by the standard of English language. While by the standards of my culture this would be rude in the case that I put some sarcastic smiley face at the end of that line. Therefore this perhaps was a social mistake on my part.
It is just that I couldn't believe that you are advocating EU-China friendship when the both sides are evidently escalating tensions (and for good reasons). That was behind the opening line.
Mind how you go.