Random Star Wars Thoughts

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

It's like you don't even want skittles themed swoop bikes. How inappropriate.

It might be ok if they worked in that skittles commercial with all the space slugs chomping down on skittles on that asteroid.

 

[The Cat]

It might be ok if they workd in that skittles commercial with all the space slugs chomping down on skittles on that asteroid

If we're good boys and girls Kathy will give us mixed berry, sour, and tropical flavored swoop gangs.
I call them the Skittles Gang. They're a dangerous and serious swoop gang. Trust me, you don't want to taste their rainbow of fury.​

 

[The Cat]

Yub nub, eee chop yub nub;
Ah toe mee toe pee chee keene;
G'noop dock fling oh ah.
Yah wah, eee chop yah wah;
Ah toe mee toe peechee keene;
G'noop dock fling oh ah.
Coatee cha tu yub nub;
Coatee cha tu yah wah;
Coatee cha tu glowah;
Allay loo ta nuv.
Glowah, eee chop glowah;
Ya glowah pee chu nee foom,
Ah toot dee awe goon daa.
*Coatee cha tu goo; (Yub nub!)
Coatee cha tu doo; (Yah wah!)
Coatee cha tu too; (Ya chaa!)
Allay loo ta nuv,
Allay loo ta nuv,
Allay loo ta nuv.
Glowah, eee chop glowah.
Ya glowah pee chu nee foom;
Ah toot dee awe goon daa.
* Coatee cha tu goo; (Yub nub!)
Coatee cha tu doo; (Yah wah!)
Coatee cha tu too; (Ya chaa!)
Allay loo ta nuv.
Allay loo ta nuv.
Allay loo ta nuv.
Allay loo ta nuv​

 

[Totenkindly]

It's like I said. For me, it was the middle of the pack. If there was another season, I'd probably watch it, but I'm not upset that there isn't. It's not as good as Andor or the early seasons of the Mandalorian that were actually about the Mandalorian. My ranking is as follows.

1. Andor
2. Mandalorian (I'd rate the first two seasons of this above Andor, as they had more heart and mystique to them, but Season 3 is kind of bleh despite having lots of stuff 11 year old me would expect to enjoy.)
3. The Acolyte
4. Ahsoka. I didn't finish this but not because I hated anything in it, I just had other things capture my attention. The problem with this show is that it was 95% fan service without a compelling enough story to make any of it work.
5. The Book of Boba Fett. It doesn't star Boba Fett, or even who they are pretending is Boba Fett for part of it. I feel bad for Temura Morrison because he actually did a great job in the prequels, and this was his time in the spotlight. Unfortunately the writing sucked.
6. Kenobi. I stopped two episodes in, once I realize this show was going to be about Kenobi protecting an annoyingly-written version of Princess Leia. I don't buy that 10 year old Leia is practically the same person as 18 year old Leia (even Lucas realized that about his characters when writing his prequels). It's so lazy, too. We're supposed to chuckle and find it cute, but it's not cute, it's stupid. The other major sin is that they got Ewan McGregor back, who has had a pretty good career since the prequels, for this garbage. Even if Ewan's schedules and interests would hypothetically line up again, he would probably be too old for something like this to make sense. This was their one shot, and it was garbage.

I think that's it for the live action stuff.

Oh, and I hate Skeleton Key already and have zero interest in it; I do not want to watch "what if Star Wars had suburbs and it was kind of like E.T." That's the dumbest idea for a Star War thing possible. E.T.'s canon already, anyway. He's a Jedi and that's how he can levitate things.

I only really actually liked Andor, overall -- the others were kinda half-assed (except for Mando) in terms of the actual skills of the people making the series. (But Gilroy has experience with film and TV.)

Ahsoka wasn't terrible, but it's pretty telling when the most interesting people on your show are the "grey Force users" or whatever they might have been and I wish they had made a show about them. Lots of fan service. Nothing terribly exciting, even if the actors weren't bad. I'll just note I never liked Christensen as Anakin, really; and so having all the Anakin apologetics in this show + even more Christensen where I'm supposed to be glomming on him simply for being there just was ridiculous and annoying.

I did think out of everything, Mando was the most "Star Wars" Star Wars show out there, but it never much appealed to me. I think the only time I really sat up in my seat was in S2E7 when Bill Barr does something drastic that is the bread-and-butter of truly interesting shows (because it felt like what his character should do but suddenly disrupted the safety of the main characters)... and then it just went back to meh again and "oh look another cute Disney cameo." Again it's telling that I can quote you the exact episode that happened in without having watched Mando twice or since. (I never watched Season 3.)

Kenobi's "Leia" antics didn't bother me as much as they bothered you, but after an okay opener, it just went downhill again and just had so much stupid stuff. Yes, there's a half decent fight at the end -- but I don't understand why Vader was allowed to live. It had to be written in a way that Kenobi wasn't able to kill him or didn't want to, but frankly Vader was a universal menace that needed to be terminated. These series are typically either missing the balls to do what must be done or the skill to pull it off.

I rewatched S1E5 of "The Acolyte" last night just to be fair. I know it was one of the better episodes I had seen and I actually enjoyed it on the second time through too. The fights were decent and interesting, and more fights meant less dialogue. But most importantly now knowing the entire backstory, I could interpret what was being said and had perspective. On first watch, they all seem to be needlessly talking "around" things instead of just saying it, and a lot of the dialogue is confusing. Once you know the backstory, a lot of the comments in dialogue make sense -- but that's not really how to make a series. You have to hear it like your audience would hear it the first time, with only past episodes to provide information, and it's a lot of needless "Not gonna tell you what's going on" crap, because they're withholding info for reveals in episode 6-7 (?).

 

[The Cat]

I only really actually liked Andor, overall -- the others were kinda half-assed (except for Mando) in terms of the actual skills of the people making the series. (But Gilroy has experience with film and TV.)

Ahsoka wasn't terrible, but it's pretty telling when the most interesting people on your show are the "grey Force users" or whatever they might have been and I wish they had made a show about them. Lots of fan service. Nothing terribly exciting, even if the actors weren't bad. I'll just note I never liked Christensen as Anakin, really; and so having all the Anakin apologetics in this show + even more Christensen where I'm supposed to be glomming on him simply for being there just was ridiculous and annoying.

I did think out of everything, Mando was the most "Star Wars" Star Wars show out there, but it never much appealed to me. I think the only time I really sat up in my seat was in S2E7 when Bill Barr does something drastic that is the bread-and-butter of truly interesting shows (because it felt like what his character should do but suddenly disrupted the safety of the main characters)... and then it just went back to meh again and "oh look another cute Disney cameo." Again it's telling that I can quote you the exact episode that happened in without having watched Mando twice or since. (I never watched Season 3.)

Kenobi's "Leia" antics didn't bother me as much as they bothered you, but after an okay opener, it just went downhill again and just had so much stupid stuff. Yes, there's a half decent fight at the end -- but I don't understand why Vader was allowed to live. It had to be written in a way that Kenobi wasn't able to kill him or didn't want to, but frankly Vader was a universal menace that needed to be terminated. These series are typically either missing the balls to do what must be done or the skill to pull it off.

I rewatched S1E5 of "The Acolyte" last night just to be fair. I know it was one of the better episodes I had seen and I actually enjoyed it on the second time through too. The fights were decent and interesting, and more fights meant less dialogue. But most importantly now knowing the entire backstory, I could interpret what was being said and had perspective. On first watch, they all seem to be needlessly talking "around" things instead of just saying it, and a lot of the dialogue is confusing. Once you know the backstory, a lot of the comments in dialogue make sense -- but that's not really how to make a series. You have to hear it like your audience would hear it the first time, with only past episodes to provide information, and it's a lot of needless "Not gonna tell you what's going on" crap, because they're withholding info for reveals in episode 6-7 (?).

Bill Burr gave a stirring performance that gave me hope that it was in fact possible for star wars to be great for the first time. Bill Barr is the corrupt political lawyer who passively thought about hamburgers while the former president wiped his ass with the American people. Given the rest of new Star wars its an understandable mistake to make.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I only really actually liked Andor, overall -- the others were kinda half-assed (except for Mando) in terms of the actual skills of the people making the series. (But Gilroy has experience with film and TV.)

Ahsoka wasn't terrible, but it's pretty telling when the most interesting people on your show are the "grey Force users" or whatever they might have been and I wish they had made a show about them. Lots of fan service. Nothing terribly exciting, even if the actors weren't bad. I'll just note I never liked Christensen as Anakin, really; and so having all the Anakin apologetics in this show + even more Christensen where I'm supposed to be glomming on him simply for being there just was ridiculous and annoying.

I did think out of everything, Mando was the most "Star Wars" Star Wars show out there, but it never much appealed to me. I think the only time I really sat up in my seat was in S2E7 when Bill Barr does something drastic that is the bread-and-butter of truly interesting shows (because it felt like what his character should do but suddenly disrupted the safety of the main characters)... and then it just went back to meh again and "oh look another cute Disney cameo." Again it's telling that I can quote you the exact episode that happened in without having watched Mando twice or since. (I never watched Season 3.)

There was a sense mystery about where Grogu came from. While I knew what choice Dyn Jarrin was going to make, I thought the road to getting him there captured my attention. I liked the story of a guy who was (more or less; he has his clan) on his own and out for himself learned to care about something besides himself. It was done well and made the show worth my time.

Now we know he was a Jedi in the Jedi Temple and he's probably the son of Yoda and Yaddle. *yawn*

Kenobi's "Leia" antics didn't bother me as much as they bothered you, but after an okay opener, it just went downhill again and just had so much stupid stuff. Yes, there's a half decent fight at the end -- but I don't understand why Vader was allowed to live. It had to be written in a way that Kenobi wasn't able to kill him or didn't want to, but frankly Vader was a universal menace that needed to be terminated. These series are typically either missing the balls to do what must be done or the skill to pull it off.

I rewatched S1E5 of "The Acolyte" last night just to be fair. I know it was one of the better episodes I had seen and I actually enjoyed it on the second time through too. The fights were decent and interesting, and more fights meant less dialogue. But most importantly now knowing the entire backstory, I could interpret what was being said and had perspective. On first watch, they all seem to be needlessly talking "around" things instead of just saying it, and a lot of the dialogue is confusing. Once you know the backstory, a lot of the comments in dialogue make sense -- but that's not really how to make a series. You have to hear it like your audience would hear it the first time, with only past episodes to provide information, and it's a lot of needless "Not gonna tell you what's going on" crap, because they're withholding info for reveals in episode 6-7 (?).

It does seem like a lot of things could have been resolved earlier by just being less vague with each other. I think I noticed that talking around, even if I didn't know what was being hid. That's a dumb way to write something.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

If I was a Force user, my lightsaber combat style would be Form IV - Ataru, like Ketamine Yoda but maybe not so fast.

 

[Totenkindly]

Now we know he was a Jedi in the Jedi Temple and he's probably the son of Yoda and Yaddle. *yawn*

Gawd.

Need this I did not.
Not known, some secrets better are.

 

[The Cat]

There was a sense mystery about where Grogu came from. While I knew what choice Dyn Jarrin was going to make, I thought the road to getting him there captured my attention. I liked the story of a guy who was (more or less; he has his clan) on his own and out for himself learned to care about something besides himself. It was done well and made the show worth my time.

Now we know he was a Jedi in the Jedi Temple and he's probably the son of Yoda and Yaddle. *yawn*


It does seem like a lot of things could have been resolved earlier by just being less vague with each other. I think I noticed that talking around, even if I didn't know what was being hid. That's a dumb way to write something.

Was there though? Was there really?

 

[Totenkindly]

 

[The Cat]

 

[The Cat]

If I was a Force user, my lightsaber combat style would be Form IV - Ataru, like Ketamine Yoda but maybe not so fast.

Form II: Makashi for me. With a healthy amount of Form VII Juyo/Vapaad. Makashi would be my primary form, the form I practiced to pass most of the time, focus/meditate with. An elegant Dance of deadly grace... However, I confess to enjoy channeling a bit of rage into malignant grace. The chaotic and erratic with a bold focus on offense. A Jedi has to be ready to end a duel as soon as it begins. Having to go through the penumbra of the dark side, this style would help keep me grounded in the light by excercising the darkness so to speak. I would have a curved hilt lightsaber, slightly longer hilt so I could occasionally switch up to Form VII if needed.

This is where the the fun for star wars is for me, talking with other geeks what kind of Star Wars character we would want to be in a good story.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Was there though? Was there really?

I had it, just because the species is so rare. I guess naive old me was hoping for me than the fact that he must be the son of the only others we know of his kind. That last part isn't confirmed yet, but I'd eat my hat if that isn't the case.

 

[The Cat]

I had it, just because the species is so rare. I guess naive old me was hoping for me than the fact that he must be the son of the only others we know of his kind. That last part isn't confirmed yet, but I'd eat my hat if that isn't the case.

Then Yoda and Yaddle hooked up, had a kid and the rest of the Jedi didnt blink an eye. So I guess Anakin didnt have to keep his relationship with Padme a secret after all because it's cool to hook up and have kids in the Jedi Order?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Then Yoda and Yaddle hooked up, had a kid and the rest of the Jedi didnt blink an eye. So I guess Anakin didnt have to keep his relationship with Padme a secret after all because it's cool to hook up and have kids in the Jedi Order?

Yes, because every faction has to be full of terrible hypocrites because that's edgy and deep

 

[The Cat]

Yes, because every faction has to be full of terrible hypocrites because that's edgy and deep.

Oh good, you were being sarcastic the whole time. I cant always tell when someone is using sarcasm for humor. Disney has certainly shown its willingness to disregard everything thats gone before just to get closer to the edge of a very shallow pool. Too shallow in fact to dive in, and yet head first they go time after time, breaking the necks of the fans who got them there, and for whay? Some delicious and moist cake? It's tragic. The cake is a lie. A delicious, and moist lie.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Oh good, you were being sarcastic the whole time. I cant always tell when someone is using sarcasm for humor. Disney has certainly shown its willingness to disregard everything thats gone before just to get closer to the edge of a very shallow pool. Too shallow in fact to dive in, and yet head first they go time after time, breaking the necks of the fans who got them there, and for whay? Some delicious and moist cake? It's tragic. The cake is a lie. A delicious, and moist lie.

Well, I was being sarcastic with the last post, but I do think it will be eventually revealed that Yoda is Grogu's dad. That's just the way the "creatives" think; a new character has to be tied in with an existing character via lineage. They even did it (sort of) with Jannah in ROS. What would you bet on, Grogu's parents being Yoda-like creatures we've never met, or Grogu's parents being Yoda and Yaddle, the only other known members of this species in existence? They've even started giving Yaddle a little more attention recently, she was featured in an episode of an animated series called Tales of the Jedi.

Which is too bad. I want mystery and expansiveness, which is why the Mandalorian initially excited me.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Form III also. That would be my other lightsaber form. It's a defensive form; Form III masters like Obi-Wan Kenobi can block any blow the opponent throws at them.

 

[Totenkindly]

Let's go back to Rey being the children of drug addicts selling her for booze money...

Now I'm getting pissed again at the shit writing. Couldn't they even try? Talk about a bad heritage and discouraging for her -- being a nobody, her parents didn't love her and were reprobates and scorned... and to see someone who could rise about that and be more than what she was born into, surviving, rising about it, and instead of descending into bitterness instead rising above it -- that would be true heroism. Making her Palp's grandkid is like pretty much the least creative option possible, esp the way they did it. Everything is like, "You guys weren't even TRYING."

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Something I realized that I'm not happy about with regards to The Acolyte is how they killed off anything that was cool about the Jedi. In trying to be cute and "deconstruct" things, they broke the OT. The prequel trilogy showed a Jedi Order that was remote and distant but I never thought they were capable of what we see depicted in this series. In this series the Jedi straight up murder people, and then the other Jedi cover it up to "protect norms," essientially. I get the impression that this is far from an isolated incident and that events like this happen all the time. If they did the twist with Master Sol and that green Jedi didn't try to cover up the truth, I'd feel very differently about it. That would just be about individual Jedi failing to live up to their standards; but the way they wrote this damns the whole order.

What the Jedi do in The Acolyte isn't just challenging our assumptions about the story, but is actually evil in my book. This means that the Empire is actually sort of in the right to destroy the order, and that they're actually kind of the good guys. That's some bullshit.

Is it so hard to have our tyrannical space fascist faction actually be the bad guys? I wonder why people are so uncomfortable with that. Legends did this crap where the Imperial military buildup was justified because Palpatine learned about this evil race of aliens from beyond the galaxy called the Yuuhzan Vong. I hate this kind of thing so much.